HI Anne, I've been giving this a lot of thought and I'm not really able to make much sense of it! If John Rigby is the son of John Rigby and Ann Hulme then it's a huge coincidence that they're living next door to James Brindle in 1881. Problem is we have a chain of coincidences that only really show that the families knew each other. If one of the families had a rare surname, life would be much easier! I'm going to try to confirm if the John Rigby is the son of John Rigby and Ann Hulme. I'm also going to see if there's any apparent connection. By 1881 James Hulme was in Vallets Buildings, which I think is a good way from Astley Street. Cheers, Pete -----Original Message----- From: pneanne [mailto:pne.anne@ntlworld.com] Sent: 30 May 2006 21:43 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] JAMES BRINDLE 1881 and 1891 CENSUSES Hi Pete, This is getting very strange. James Brindle is living in Astley Street, Little Bolton in 1881 and 1891. He is a book-keeper. Living next door to him in 1881 is a John Rigby, who I think could be the son of John Rigby and Ann Hulme, who used to live in Dawson Lane. I have seen this James Brindle before, when I was doing my own research, as Astley Street is next to Myrrh Street, where my great grandparents William and Ann Brindle were living in 1891 and where my grandmother was born Alice Brindle was born in 1894. I don't think there is a connection between my Brindles and James Brindle. Anne in Bolton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Hulme" <phulme@glasshouse.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] JAMES BRINDLE 1851 CENSUS > Hi again, Anne > > I've rechecked the 1861 and James Brindle is listed as "Book Keeper in a > Foundry" an educated man's job, I think, so very likely the James at > Manchester Cathedral College in 1851 is this one. > > Cheers, Pete > > ________________________________ > > From: Pete Hulme [mailto:phulme@glasshouse.com] > Sent: Tue 30/05/2006 15:07 > To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] JAMES BRINDLE 1851 CENSUS > > > > Hi Anne, > It sounds possible. I would have thought that a boy sent away to > cathedral school would therefore be highly educated by the standards of > the day, and so would end up as a cleric, clerk or schoolmaster? I'll > check the 1861 when I get home and see what James Brindle's occupation > was in 1861. If he's a mill hand then I think that mitigates against > this being the same person? > > Cheers, Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: pneanne [mailto:pne.anne@ntlworld.com] > Sent: 30 May 2006 14:24 > To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] JAMES BRINDLE 1851 CENSUS > > Hi Pete, > > I have gone through the 1851 Census Index looking at all the James > Brindles > born about 1840 in Bolton and I couldn't see any who were not the 'son' > of > the household. > > I spotted a James Bindle (that is how it was transcribed). When I > looked at > the census he was James Brindle, 11 Scholar at Manchester Collegiate > Cathedral, born Bolton. I wonder if this is the son of George Brindle > and > Mary, who is not at home on the 1851 Census? > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > For Family/Local History covering Bolton, Horwich, Farnworth, Westhoughton > and Turton. Please keep the messages coming. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.4/351 - Release Date: 29/05/2006 > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== Bolton Metro - bolton@bolton.gov.uk ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx
Hi Pete I have come across a possible marriage for John Rigby & Ann Hulme, Bolton Dec Qtr 1846, Vol 21, pg 89 although there are a lot of other names on the page. Re: Elizabeth Kay - how old was she when she married James? Hope the above is of some use. Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Hulme" <phulme@glasshouse.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:27 AM Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] JAMES BRINDLE 1881 and 1891 CENSUSES > HI Anne, > I've been giving this a lot of thought and I'm not really able > to make much sense of it! If John Rigby is the son of John Rigby and Ann > Hulme then it's a huge coincidence that they're living next door to > James Brindle in 1881. Problem is we have a chain of coincidences that > only really show that the families knew each other. If one of the > families had a rare surname, life would be much easier! > > I'm going to try to confirm if the John Rigby is the son of John Rigby > and Ann Hulme. I'm also going to see if there's any apparent connection. > By 1881 James Hulme was in Vallets Buildings, which I think is a good > way from Astley Street. > > Cheers, > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: pneanne [mailto:pne.anne@ntlworld.com] > Sent: 30 May 2006 21:43 > To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] JAMES BRINDLE 1881 and 1891 CENSUSES > > Hi Pete, > > This is getting very strange. James Brindle is living in Astley Street, > > Little Bolton in 1881 and 1891. He is a book-keeper. Living next door > to > him in 1881 is a John Rigby, who I think could be the son of John Rigby > and > Ann Hulme, who used to live in Dawson Lane. > > I have seen this James Brindle before, when I was doing my own research, > as > Astley Street is next to Myrrh Street, where my great grandparents > William > and Ann Brindle were living in 1891 and where my grandmother was born > Alice > Brindle was born in 1894. > > I don't think there is a connection between my Brindles and James > Brindle. > > Anne in Bolton. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Hulme" <phulme@glasshouse.com> > To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 5:54 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] JAMES BRINDLE 1851 CENSUS > > >> Hi again, Anne >> >> I've rechecked the 1861 and James Brindle is listed as "Book Keeper in > a >> Foundry" an educated man's job, I think, so very likely the James at >> Manchester Cathedral College in 1851 is this one. >> >> Cheers, Pete >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Pete Hulme [mailto:phulme@glasshouse.com] >> Sent: Tue 30/05/2006 15:07 >> To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] JAMES BRINDLE 1851 CENSUS >> >> >> >> Hi Anne, >> It sounds possible. I would have thought that a boy sent away > to >> cathedral school would therefore be highly educated by the standards > of >> the day, and so would end up as a cleric, clerk or schoolmaster? I'll >> check the 1861 when I get home and see what James Brindle's occupation >> was in 1861. If he's a mill hand then I think that mitigates against >> this being the same person? >> >> Cheers, Pete >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pneanne [mailto:pne.anne@ntlworld.com] >> Sent: 30 May 2006 14:24 >> To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] JAMES BRINDLE 1851 CENSUS >> >> Hi Pete, >> >> I have gone through the 1851 Census Index looking at all the James >> Brindles >> born about 1840 in Bolton and I couldn't see any who were not the > 'son' >> of >> the household. >> >> I spotted a James Bindle (that is how it was transcribed). When I >> looked at >> the census he was James Brindle, 11 Scholar at Manchester Collegiate >> Cathedral, born Bolton. I wonder if this is the son of George Brindle >> and >> Mary, who is not at home on the 1851 Census? >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== >> For Family/Local History covering Bolton, Horwich, Farnworth, > Westhoughton >> and Turton. Please keep the messages coming. >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to >> ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or >> ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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