Hi Jenny, thanks for that, I'll add it to the growing pile of evidence. Elizabeth gives her age as 26 in the 1861 census and then 27 at her marriage in 1862. In the 1871 census her age is 34 and in 1881 she's 44. In 1891 both Elizabeth and James have dropped a few years as she's now 50! Both James and Elizabeth seem to be a little unsure as to their actual ages throughout their lives which, coupled with their rather common names, makes them hard to trace. Cheers, Pete -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer Walker [mailto:jenniferwalker@ntlworld.com] Sent: 01 June 2006 21:12 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] JAMES BRINDLE 1881 and 1891 CENSUSES Hi Pete I have come across a possible marriage for John Rigby & Ann Hulme, Bolton Dec Qtr 1846, Vol 21, pg 89 although there are a lot of other names on the page. Re: Elizabeth Kay - how old was she when she married James? Hope the above is of some use.