Hello again Peter, We have had a ride this evening to Mosley Common. Although we did not find the Gore, we did find the farms nearby, although we could not get near them. I have just had another look at the newspaper report of Joseph Platt's death and it gives the name of the pit owner. I had a thought that although Joseph and Alice lived at Tyldesley in 1851, they may have moved to Kearsley in 1852. Sometime after Joseph's death, Alice moved back to Harwood for a while. From the Bolton Chronicle and South Lancashire Advertiser on 13th March 1852. Colliery Accident An inquest was held at the Antelope Inn, Kearsley, on Monday last by Mr Rutter on the body of Joseph Platt a collier in the employ of Mr Thomas Grundy. It appears that on yesterday week the deceased was in a coal pit in Kearsley and had hooked a tub of coal, from which, on ascending the shaft, a piece of coal fell upon him and produced an injury which terminated his life on the same day. A verdict was returned of accidental death. Platt was 23 years of age. He leaves a widow and two children. Kind regards, Anne in Bolton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Wood" <st.peter@paradise.net.nz> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] PIT ACCIDENT 1852 > Hello Anne > > Gore appears to be in Mosley Common more-or-less, which puts it a lot > closer to Kearsley than Bongs CBD was. If Kearlsey had been used rather > loosely and the pit was on the SW side of the area, it may have been only > 2-3 miles away, which is a more manageable walk across the fields. Even > so, > there would have been plenty of closer pits. > > You asked about tunnels between pits. In the 1850s it is unlikely that > deep > pits were connected underground. There would have to have been a good > commercial reason to go to the expense of opening such connections, > maintaining them (in a deep mine, the weight of rock above soon closes up > any tunnel that is left to its own devices), and providing ventilation. I > believe during WWII they deliberately drove tunnels to interconnect > collieries in case a head gear was damaged by bombing, though it never > happened as far as I know. > > However, between Mosley Common and Kearsley there was an amazing system of > interlinked underground canals and coal workings that extended from > Worsley > under Walkden and as far as Four Lane Ends (Hulton Lane Ends) in Over > Hulton. This was the Duke of Bridgewater's colliery based on a reaching > seams by underground canals and inclined planes using specially built > narrow boats to ship the coal out of the collieries to the Bridgewater > Canal. There were also many surface pits and shafts connected with the > operation. > > Maybe Warm Hole was connected with this system??? I've emailed someone who > researches those mines, and I'll report back if I hear from him. > > Regards > Peter Wood > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 16/06/2006 > >

Anne Probably best to aim for the Gore from Par Brow area. If you start at the junction of Mort Lane and Sale Lane (A577/A5082), head towards Mosley Common for about 2 to 3 hundred yards you come to a right hand bend with some relatively new houses built on the left, there use to be a track from where these houses are built leading to Stone House farm, Turncroft farm and Strawberry Hill. I know a couple of years ago Turncroft farm was advertising a barn conversion so it was still there in 2004. Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "pneanne" <pne.anne@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] PIT ACCIDENT 1852 REPORT > Hello again Peter, > > We have had a ride this evening to Mosley Common. Although we did not > find the Gore, we did find the farms nearby, although we could not get > near them. > > I have just had another look at the newspaper report of Joseph Platt's > death and it gives the name of the pit owner. I had a thought that > although Joseph and Alice lived at Tyldesley in 1851, they may have moved > to Kearsley in 1852. Sometime after Joseph's death, Alice moved back to > Harwood for a while. > > From the Bolton Chronicle and South Lancashire Advertiser on 13th March > 1852. > > Colliery Accident > > An inquest was held at the Antelope Inn, Kearsley, on Monday last by Mr > Rutter on the body of Joseph Platt a collier in the employ of Mr Thomas > Grundy. It appears that on yesterday week the deceased was in a coal pit > in Kearsley and had hooked a tub of coal, from which, on ascending the > shaft, a piece of coal fell upon him and produced an injury which > terminated his life on the same day. A verdict was returned of accidental > death. Platt was 23 years of age. > > He leaves a widow and two children. > > Kind regards, > > Anne in Bolton. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Wood" <st.peter@paradise.net.nz> > To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 11:24 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] PIT ACCIDENT 1852 > > >> Hello Anne >> >> Gore appears to be in Mosley Common more-or-less, which puts it a lot >> closer to Kearsley than Bongs CBD was. If Kearlsey had been used rather >> loosely and the pit was on the SW side of the area, it may have been only >> 2-3 miles away, which is a more manageable walk across the fields. Even >> so, >> there would have been plenty of closer pits. >> >> You asked about tunnels between pits. In the 1850s it is unlikely that >> deep >> pits were connected underground. There would have to have been a good >> commercial reason to go to the expense of opening such connections, >> maintaining them (in a deep mine, the weight of rock above soon closes up >> any tunnel that is left to its own devices), and providing ventilation. I >> believe during WWII they deliberately drove tunnels to interconnect >> collieries in case a head gear was damaged by bombing, though it never >> happened as far as I know. >> >> However, between Mosley Common and Kearsley there was an amazing system >> of >> interlinked underground canals and coal workings that extended from >> Worsley >> under Walkden and as far as Four Lane Ends (Hulton Lane Ends) in Over >> Hulton. This was the Duke of Bridgewater's colliery based on a reaching >> seams by underground canals and inclined planes using specially built >> narrow boats to ship the coal out of the collieries to the Bridgewater >> Canal. There were also many surface pits and shafts connected with the >> operation. >> >> Maybe Warm Hole was connected with this system??? I've emailed someone >> who >> researches those mines, and I'll report back if I hear from him. >> >> Regards >> Peter Wood >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to >> ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or >> ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 16/06/2006 >> >> > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >