Many thanks Andrea. I knew that Fountain Byers had married Sarah Ann Jolley, but haven't been able to make a connection with the 3 others named Jolley/Jolly who died. Maybe there is no obvious connection - do you know of one? Fountain Byers was apparently a very good natural bass singer, and the whole family said to be very musical. We are recording relationships between victims, though I have drawn a line beyond 1st cousins - otherwise it gets too complicated. What was the relationship between Wm Gore and the Livesey lads? I am uncertain from the info you gave me, but it looks too diffuse to be included. Regards Peter