Hi Margaret, I don't know at the moment, but I'll keep it on file in case I find a link. Basically I don't know whether I am related to the Brindles, but there is a James Hulme, possibly my g.g.grandfather, who is living with the Brindles in 1841 and 1851 and then my g.g.grandfather and his family are living in the same street as the Brindles in 1871. Anne has also found some other Brindle / Hulme coincidences and we're trying to figure out the link in case I'm related to her Brindles somehow. Thanks for the input. Cheers, Pete -----Original Message----- From: Colin & Margaret [mailto:marlin.2817@ntlworld.com] Sent: 30 May 2006 20:17 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] JAMES BRINDLE 1851 CENSUS Hi Pete, Re Brindle family... I have on my collection of Heaps a Ann Brindle who married a John Heap. she brings her children with her..( re 1881 census) James W. 26 (Hatter) Radcliffe, Jane, 23 Emma 19, Marie 18, Jesse A 12, then John D Heap age 4... all of Bury. details. RG11 3861 folio 67 page 35. any use to you ? regards, mgt. calderbank.