Hi Anne, you mentioned this couple in your original note about the 1830 James Hulme and, like you I've not spotted any obvious connection other that they live near the Brindles. IGI shows Thomas Hulme married Ann Horrocks 20 Feb 1837 at St Peter's. Given the Horrocks visitors in 1851, this is almost certainly the right marriage. This means that Ann was not a Hulme in 183 and was only 14 years old. It could be that James is Thomas' son from an earlier marriage, but Thomas would only have been 15 at the time of James' birth. Alternatively Thomas and James may be children of the same parents, who are dead by 1841, but then I'd have expected James to be living with his older brother rather than a neighbour? I guess you could have common parents who died, both boys lived with the Brindles and then Thomas left and got married? Trouble is you can always make a story to fit the facts, it's trying to prove / disprove them that's hard :-( I'll see if I can connect James and Thomas in any way. Cheers, Pete -----Original Message----- From: pneanne [mailto:pne.anne@ntlworld.com] Sent: 26 May 2006 13:38 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] HULME AND BRINDLE CROSS STREET Hi Pete, I have been having a look at the 1841 and 1851 Censuses for Cross Street, Little Bolton and on both Censuses there is a Hulme family living next door but two from George Brindle, who has James Hulme as a visitor. I have seen this Hulme family before, but I discounted them because the head, Thomas Hulme, was born in Chorley. I wonder if James Hulme is connected to this family? 1841 Cross Street, Little Bolton Thomas Hulme 25 Cotton Spinner Y Ann Hulme 25 Y Margaret Hulme 3 Y Catherine Hulme 6 months Y 1851 Cross Street, Little Bolton Thomas Hulme head marr. 36 Spinner Chorley Ann wife 35 Sharples Margaret d. 13 Bolton Catherine d. 11 Bolton Arthur Howarth Hulme 8 Bolton William 5 Bolton Ann 2 Bolton Mary Horrocks visitor 32 Bolton William Horrocks visitor 27 Spinner Bolton In 1861 This family have 3 more children and are living in Southern Terrace, Halliwell. Kind regards, Anne in Bolton. ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== Bolton Metro - bolton@bolton.gov.uk ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=1459 9&targetid=5429