It also occurs to me that I haven't really given you the families I'm interested in in Bolton. They are as follows:- GILLER- probably from Penwortham- in Bolton from around 1860. WINDER- from Wyresdale, in Bolton from 1812 with innkeeping and painting connections. BODDY -from Bury from 1860 but before that Mileham, Norfolk. BASNETT- from Chester originally- in Bolton from 1897 with LEWIS stepfamily, a shoemaker originally from Wales. In 1901 census in Bolton as LEWIS but married as BASNETT. Hope that rings some bells. Barbara