Hi Roy, Have you looked at the IGI? The HORROBIN=WARBURTON marriage is shown, with Joseph shown b.abt.1790 and there's a alternative Joseph bapt. 22 Aug 1790 Presbyterian Church, Rivington, s/o Jas HORROBIN and Alice BROWNLOW. Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton Roy Horrobin wrote <snip> My next step is to try and get beyond Joseph Horrobin born 1793 in > Manchester. He married Betty Warburton on 4th Sept 1815 at St Peter's Church, Bolton. <snip>