Hi Barry, I have searched on the 1851 for Charles Warburton, but the only two I could find of the right age group did not have the parents you mention. I also searched for Joseph Warburton, between the ages of 25-45, but again without success. Of course it could be that Joseph had died before the 1851 census was taken. If I have another thought I will let you know. Valerie -----Original Message----- From: Barry Bain [mailto:B-Bain@rhoslan1.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: 25 August 2006 19:59 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Suggestions Please I am asking for suggestions of ways to identify, which of the two birth certificates below belongs to my great-grandfather CHARLES WARBURTON. He was born in Manchester but lived in Bolton, working as a shoemaker, from the mid 1890's up to his death in 1922 (There, that keeps me 'on subject' for the Bolton list).

There is a Joseph & Elizabeth WARBURTON in Hulme in 1851 - are they one of the set of parents. They don't have a child aged 4 so is there a Charles that died between 1846 and 1851? That would eliminate one birth if there was. Joseph is a Pattern Card Maker, does that fit with the first Birth Certificate. Living at 38 White Street. Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2221; Folio: 696; Page: 17; GSU roll: 87230-87231 Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS