Hi, Michael,, It would be easier if I answer your messages below................................... > Carolyn ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com writes: >> >>How does one obtain the Bolton listings ? > > The LDS may get them for you providing you live near one of their centres _ I don't in Bx, but last weekend noticed there was a new one in Kelso, an 'offshoot' of Bathurst. Perhaps I could ring them?..............I'll try.................! >>I agree that Jane ISHERWOOD's parents were Christopher and Elizabeth. >>Their children all seem to be "Submitted" Entries on the IGI. > In which case I'm sure you'll treat with a pinch of salt I am always very suspicious of "Subnitted Entries" and unless I can verify them with Extracted Entries or OPRs etc, I don't follow them. Yet Jane is there b. 1709 and he is a Submitted Entry ! You suggested that her parents were Christopher and Elizabeth . >>Christopher b. abt 1656 of Edgeworth, BLM and m. Elizabeth (no surname >>given) abt 1681. >>Possible children: >>- 1685 John >>- 1687 Thomas >>- 1693 Elizabeth >>- 1697 Abigail >>- 1709 Jane >>- 1711 Margaret................................all chr. BLM. Very >>'gappy' ? >>Have you any idea of Elizabeth's surname? Could it also have been >>ISHERWOOD? > > There is no record in Bolton (or other) PRs that fits Christopher and > Elizabeth. Elizabeth surname unknown, therefore. I would suspect the > 1697-1709 gap indicates 2 sets of children/parents but no evidence for > proposition! (Sorry to be obtuse, but what does 'proposition' mean ? (Do you mean your supposition/suggestion/idea?) Remember I have only researched in SCT and haven't found that term there.) >>Is Jane an ascendant of yours ? > No >>Yes, I do have the m. of Jane GARTHSIDE and John ISHERWOOD in 1774. He is >>described as "Weaver of Edgeworth". I can only find 2 children for them: >>Alice (1776) and William (1778), both chr. Turton. They were both very >>young >>when married. Jane G. was about 19 and I'm not sure about John, nor who >>his >>parents were. > It'll probably be difficult to identify the John I bp and parents as so > many Johns. I'll try and do some Christopher I tentative reconstructions > from my data and see what falls out - I'll come back when I've done this - > tiling the bathroom is calling :-) (Cool ! Happy tiling!! Bedtime is calling me now.................11.20 p.m. !) Carolyn.