Hi Carol, I only saw your mail by chance - i nearly missed it due to the subject line - i only have time to read those . Anyway I have checked what I have and unfortunately I don't have their marraige date, in fact i think it was you that supplied to me the fact they married an had son Ralph HB. I just had a quick look on BMD and could not find a marriage match listed. Maybe you could try lancs on line parish clerk if you think they married in the county. All i have for Lydia is that she was living in Bury on the 1901 census, prior to that - in 1891- she lived At Stock Hillock but was born on Glynne st Farnworth Bolton. Another kind lister, i think, supplied Lydia's mum, garndpa Ralph and the Farrand, Stanley forebears. On my notes I have that Harold was the son of John Bradshaw b. 1854 who in turn was the son of Joseph Bradshaw and Mary ( nee Smith) , although there are no sources here for that info. I have Ralph's siblings Deborah , Charlotte and George. I also got APHoughton/fernley's brother George who married Sarah Ann Cawley, and some of their kids - but i probbaly sent that to u already. I have been working on other lines of my tree as I am still no further with where or when Lydia's mum ( APHF) died. The Houghtons lived at Stott Hillock aka Stock Hillock, this seems to have been named after a cotton mill which was there at least from 1847 - my 1847 map shows it. later maps simply show it as a small group of houses with the mill gone. let me know if any of that is any use and where you are at with it all. Sarah essage: 3 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:02:57 -0700 From: "C.Laugher" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] ENG-LAN-BOLTON Digest, Vol 3, Issue 119 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]a9e> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi List I am trying to get some dates on my Grandparents marriage, in the past Sarah Fernley has helped me with this info so hopefully she will see this message an could help me again. I need to know the marriage dates for Lydia Faith Fernley & Harold Bradshaw I assume they were married in England, Harold was born 17/9/1887 & Lydia was born 13/11/1887. I hope Sarah or someone can help me with the date of this marriage. Many thanks Cheers Carol