According to the National Register of Archives, Bolton Archives has one item for the orphanage; '1875-1930: minute book and visitors book' That might clear up any connection the Greens had with the orphanage, but I can't find it on the main Bolton Archives site. Presumably it is a separate holding to the registers you tracked down? The second question is how the girls were personally known to Mrs Green. The most obvious route is by membership of the same church, chapel or perhaps society. That information might be in an obituary of either Martha Green or her husband. Records of that organisation might include mention of the family. I wonder too if it is worth checking the workhouse records to see if the children were taken there in the first instance. Judy

It might be that the equivalent of the modern social services were called in to see whether the family would be able to manage after the loss of the parents - the Guardians? It could be that they stepped in and agreed to take to children into care or my Grandmother could have requested assistance. There was an infant that seemed to stay at home - I think he was three when his mother died. He was still at home in the 1891 census. As far as I know there were no relatives in Lancashire, the maternal Grandmother was in Masham and I think one child stayed with her (she was there in 1881, 1891 & 1901). The paternal Grandfather died in Middlesbrough workhouse in 1889. Of course I have no way of knowing what happened between the censuses. I might have a look at the Chadwick Orphanage minute & visitors' books next time that I am in Bolton It looks as it continues as a charity THE CHADWICK EDUCATIONAL FOUNDATION "TO APPLY SUCH YEARLY SUM AS THEY THINK FIT IN PROVIDING FOR ANY SCHOOL IN THE AREA CONSISTING OF THE BOROUGH OF BOLTON AND SUCH PARTS OF THE FORMER URBAN DISTRICT OF TURTON AS ARE NOT COMPRISED IN THE SAID BOROUGH SUCH SPECIAL BENEFITS OF A KIND NOT NORMALLY PROVIDED BY THE LOCAL EDUCATION AUTHORITY AS MAY FROM TIME TO TIME BE AGREED UPON BETWEEN THE EDUCATIONAL TRUSTEES, THE MANAGERS OR GOVERNORS OF THE SCHOOL CONCERNED AND THE LOCAL EDUCATION AUTHORITY.THE TRUSTEES SHALL AWARD TO BENEFICIARIES: SCHOLARSHIPS AND GRANTS FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES, FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO PREPARE FOR EMPLOYMENT, TRAVEL ALLOWANCES TO PROMOTE FURTHER EDUCATION, THE PROVISION OF SPORTS FACILITIES AND COACHING, FINANCIAL HELP TO STUDY MUSIC OR OTHER ARTS AND SHALL OTHERWISE PROMOTE THE EDUCATION OF BENEFICIARIES, HAVING REGARD TO THE PRINCIPLES OF THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND." Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of judy olsen > Sent: 10 February 2008 14:36 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Chadwick's Orphanage > > According to the National Register of Archives, Bolton > Archives has one item for the orphanage; > > '1875-1930: minute book and visitors book' > > That might clear up any connection the Greens had with the > orphanage, but I can't find it on the main Bolton Archives > site. Presumably it is a separate holding to the registers > you tracked down? > > The second question is how the girls were personally known to > Mrs Green. The most obvious route is by membership of the > same church, chapel or perhaps society. That information > might be in an obituary of either Martha Green or her > husband. Records of that organisation might include mention > of the family. > > I wonder too if it is worth checking the workhouse records to > see if the children were taken there in the first instance. >

Missing children? How about the Bolton Vigilante Committee taking them? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of judy olsen Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 9:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Chadwick's Orphanage According to the National Register of Archives, Bolton Archives has one item for the orphanage; '1875-1930: minute book and visitors book' That might clear up any connection the Greens had with the orphanage, but I can't find it on the main Bolton Archives site. Presumably it is a separate holding to the registers you tracked down? The second question is how the girls were personally known to Mrs Green. The most obvious route is by membership of the same church, chapel or perhaps society. That information might be in an obituary of either Martha Green or her husband. Records of that organisation might include mention of the family. I wonder too if it is worth checking the workhouse records to see if the children were taken there in the first instance. Judy :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I wonder if someone could take a look at these whilst in the archives. Not to do a lookup, just to see if they look useful. I suspect the visitors' book might just be distinguished visitors. Does the minute book have any reference to individual inmates by name or just the general running of the orphanage? Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of judy olsen > Sent: 10 February 2008 14:36 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Chadwick's Orphanage > > According to the National Register of Archives, Bolton > Archives has one item for the orphanage; > > '1875-1930: minute book and visitors book'