In message <[email protected]>, Pam Clarke <[email protected]> writes >Hi David, >The farm Duggans was just up the lane where I live, next to Wingates >Church. I have a note in my files about Hodson's - 1774 Property of >Starkies estate called Hodson's is at Wingates almost opposite the top >of Church Street just along Chorley Road and fronting the road for some >distance, probably as far as Church Lane. It was described in 1744 as >"messuage with closes containing 3 acres of woodlands in tenure of >Wm.Hodson demised to him for 3 lives on Jan 1 1732 at 10/- p.a. In >1774 it was the tenure of James HARTCLIFFE. So it would have been on >the opposite side of Church Lane from Duggans. > >I have not got a copy of the Tithe Map - although I am going to LRO >very soon and I believe the original map was so frail that it could not >be copied > but I have been told that there might be a way to copy it now after >some restoration work has been carried out. I will find out shortly >and let you know. Thanks Pam. That makes sense, they lived at Duggans and rented some extra land next door. James Hartcliffe could be Nicholas's father or grandfather. They were both James and spelt their surname Hartley, Hartliff or Hartcliffe. More likely grandfather as the younger one would have been only 20 then. -- David Hartley