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    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] ENG-LAN-BOLTON ALDRED
    2. Chris
    3. My NUTTALL family lived with an ALDRED family in Bk James Street 1861 census. They were John and Margaret ALDRED and their daughter Mary Ann married Joseph NUTTALL my grt grt grandfather in1855. John and Margaret also had a son called Wright! Chris -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-bolton-request@rootsweb.com To: eng-lan-bolton@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 8:01 Subject: ENG-LAN-BOLTON Digest, Vol 6, Issue 37 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ To post to the list, send your message to ENG-LAN-BOLTON@RootsWeb.com. Be sure mail to the list is in plain text. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Plees use a subject line that is pertinent to your message and that you snip out any text not relevant to your post. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Today's Topics: 1. Reposting ALDRED (Elizabeth Wright) 2. ALDRED (Elizabeth Wright) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:31:37 -0500 From: Elizabeth Wright <wrightelizabeth82@gmail.com> Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Reposting ALDRED To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTi=EtN9OP=MQNYrXntL3PgotyM-1x-VuH04S9kCX@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Does anyone remember the bakery at 68 Ashworth Lane, Astley Bridge, Bolton? It was owned by my ancestors until 1951. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:13:51 -0500 From: Elizabeth Wright <wrightelizabeth82@gmail.com> Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] ALDRED To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON List <ENG-LAN-BOLTON@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <AANLkTi=jO9JsMmm3qrs4Pq6MC0DMH_q4R1wL7125Y7fM@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Is anyone researching this name in the Bolton area? ------------------------------ To contact the ENG-LAN-BOLTON list administrator, send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the ENG-LAN-BOLTON mailing list, send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ENG-LAN-BOLTON Digest, Vol 6, Issue 37 *********************************************

    02/28/2011 09:51:11
    1. [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] ALDRED
    2. Elizabeth Wright
    3. Is anyone researching this name in the Bolton area?

    02/28/2011 12:13:51
    1. [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Reposting ALDRED
    2. Elizabeth Wright
    3. Does anyone remember the bakery at 68 Ashworth Lane, Astley Bridge, Bolton? It was owned by my ancestors until 1951.

    02/28/2011 06:31:37
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Rowland SHUTTLEWORTH; Elizabeth Ann LIVESEY; Charles William HOLLAND
    2. sue fryer
    3. Thank you Charlotte, lots of very helpful information. Yes I came to the same conclusion about Thomas and being a visitor with the Sharples in 1911, no explanation as yet. I did wonder if Elizabeth was expecting another child by that time but I can only find daughter Jane in MarchQ 1913 (FreeBMD). Sue ________________________________ From: CERyan <ceryan@sapo.pt> To: eng-lan-bolton@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 26 February, 2011 14:50:25 Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Rowland SHUTTLEWORTH; Elizabeth Ann LIVESEY; Charles William HOLLAND Hi Sue I think I have worked out the discrepancies between wives of Thomas Shuttleworth father of Rowland.  It looks as though he married Emily Bullough and she was the mother of Rowland, she died in 1888 and he married Alice Asquith in 1889 and she is therefore shown with Thomas in 1891 and 1901. 1874 Thomas Shuttleworth married Emily Bullough at Leigh Register Office or Registrar Attended Census 1881 - RG11 3838 Folio 133 37 Cam St, Little Bolton Thomas Shuttleworth, aged 30, Joiner, born Kenyon Emily Shuttleworth, wife, aged 26, born Atherton Herbert Ed Shuttleworth, son, aged 4, born Halliwell Edith H Shuttleworth, daughter, aged 2, born Halliwell Baptisms: 28 Mar 1888 St Matthew, Bolton, Lancashire, England Rowland Shuttleworth - Son of Thomas Shuttleworth & Emily Abode: 103 Mere Hall St. Occupation: Joiner Baptised by: Geo. Bradley Jones Register: Baptisms 1884 - 1888, Page 191, Entry 1522 Source: LDS Film 2113024 1888 Sep Q Bolton 8c 221 Death of Emily Shuttleworth aged 34 1889 Dec Q Bolton 8c 571 Thomas Shuttleworth married Alice Asquith [at Bolton Registrar Office or Registrar Attended] Census 1891 - RG12 3118 Folio 41 8 Lyon St, Little Bolton Thomas Shuttleworth, aged 39, Joiner, born Kenyon Alice Shuttleworth, wife, aged 35, born Outwood Herbert E Shuttleworth, son, aged 14, Joiner's Apprentice, born Halliwell Edith N? Shuttleworth, daughter, aged 12, born Bolton Thomas Shuttleworth, son, aged 5, born Bolton Rowland Shuttleworth, son, aged 3, born Bolton Sarah Alice Shuttleworth, daughter, aged 9 months, born Bolton It is slightly odd that in 1911 Rowland and Elizabeth are living together having been married 3 years with one living child, presumably Thomas (1909), but child Thomas, aged 2, born Bolton, appears to be with a Sharples family as a visitor. Best wishes Charlotte :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/26/2011 08:39:17
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Rowland SHUTTLEWORTH; Elizabeth Ann LIVESEY; Charles William HOLLAND
    2. Jean Murray
    3. Great work, Charlotte! --- On Sat, 26/2/11, CERyan <ceryan@sapo.pt> wrote: From: CERyan <ceryan@sapo.pt> Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Rowland SHUTTLEWORTH; Elizabeth Ann LIVESEY; Charles William HOLLAND To: eng-lan-bolton@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, 26 February, 2011, 14:50 Hi Sue I think I have worked out the discrepancies between wives of Thomas Shuttleworth father of Rowland.  It looks as though he married Emily Bullough and she was the mother of Rowland, she died in 1888 and he married Alice Asquith in 1889 and she is therefore shown with Thomas in 1891 and 1901. 1874 Thomas Shuttleworth married Emily Bullough at Leigh Register Office or Registrar Attended Census 1881 - RG11 3838 Folio 133 37 Cam St, Little Bolton Thomas Shuttleworth, aged 30, Joiner, born Kenyon Emily Shuttleworth, wife, aged 26, born Atherton Herbert Ed Shuttleworth, son, aged 4, born Halliwell Edith H Shuttleworth, daughter, aged 2, born Halliwell Baptisms: 28 Mar 1888 St Matthew, Bolton, Lancashire, England Rowland Shuttleworth - Son of Thomas Shuttleworth & Emily Abode: 103 Mere Hall St. Occupation: Joiner Baptised by: Geo. Bradley Jones Register: Baptisms 1884 - 1888, Page 191, Entry 1522 Source: LDS Film 2113024 1888 Sep Q Bolton 8c 221 Death of Emily Shuttleworth aged 34 1889 Dec Q Bolton 8c 571 Thomas Shuttleworth married Alice Asquith [at Bolton Registrar Office or Registrar Attended] Census 1891 - RG12 3118 Folio 41 8 Lyon St, Little Bolton Thomas Shuttleworth, aged 39, Joiner, born Kenyon Alice Shuttleworth, wife, aged 35, born Outwood Herbert E Shuttleworth, son, aged 14, Joiner's Apprentice, born Halliwell Edith N? Shuttleworth, daughter, aged 12, born Bolton Thomas Shuttleworth, son, aged 5, born Bolton Rowland Shuttleworth, son, aged 3, born Bolton Sarah Alice Shuttleworth, daughter, aged 9 months, born Bolton It is slightly odd that in 1911 Rowland and Elizabeth are living together having been married 3 years with one living child, presumably Thomas (1909), but child Thomas, aged 2, born Bolton, appears to be with a Sharples family as a visitor. Best wishes Charlotte :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/26/2011 08:16:40
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Rowland SHUTTLEWORTH; Elizabeth Ann LIVESEY; Charles William HOLLAND
    2. CERyan
    3. Hi Sue I think I have worked out the discrepancies between wives of Thomas Shuttleworth father of Rowland. It looks as though he married Emily Bullough and she was the mother of Rowland, she died in 1888 and he married Alice Asquith in 1889 and she is therefore shown with Thomas in 1891 and 1901. 1874 Thomas Shuttleworth married Emily Bullough at Leigh Register Office or Registrar Attended Census 1881 - RG11 3838 Folio 133 37 Cam St, Little Bolton Thomas Shuttleworth, aged 30, Joiner, born Kenyon Emily Shuttleworth, wife, aged 26, born Atherton Herbert Ed Shuttleworth, son, aged 4, born Halliwell Edith H Shuttleworth, daughter, aged 2, born Halliwell Baptisms: 28 Mar 1888 St Matthew, Bolton, Lancashire, England Rowland Shuttleworth - Son of Thomas Shuttleworth & Emily Abode: 103 Mere Hall St. Occupation: Joiner Baptised by: Geo. Bradley Jones Register: Baptisms 1884 - 1888, Page 191, Entry 1522 Source: LDS Film 2113024 1888 Sep Q Bolton 8c 221 Death of Emily Shuttleworth aged 34 1889 Dec Q Bolton 8c 571 Thomas Shuttleworth married Alice Asquith [at Bolton Registrar Office or Registrar Attended] Census 1891 - RG12 3118 Folio 41 8 Lyon St, Little Bolton Thomas Shuttleworth, aged 39, Joiner, born Kenyon Alice Shuttleworth, wife, aged 35, born Outwood Herbert E Shuttleworth, son, aged 14, Joiner's Apprentice, born Halliwell Edith N? Shuttleworth, daughter, aged 12, born Bolton Thomas Shuttleworth, son, aged 5, born Bolton Rowland Shuttleworth, son, aged 3, born Bolton Sarah Alice Shuttleworth, daughter, aged 9 months, born Bolton It is slightly odd that in 1911 Rowland and Elizabeth are living together having been married 3 years with one living child, presumably Thomas (1909), but child Thomas, aged 2, born Bolton, appears to be with a Sharples family as a visitor. Best wishes Charlotte

    02/26/2011 07:50:25
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Rowland SHUTTLEWORTH; Elizabeth Ann LIVESEY; Charles William HOLLAND
    2. sue fryer
    3. Thanks for tip Jean, I got a reply but the person could not help me. Still looking for explanations. Sue <The 1891 & 1901 census sheets on the tree on ancestry do give parents as Thomas & Alice too; I wonder if there was a transcription error in Thomas' wife's name when the tree was uploaded.  Jean >

    02/26/2011 04:22:34
    1. [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Lancs OPC update - 25 Feb 2011
    2. sally roberts
    3. Hello Listers, More of nature's problems for the Southern Hemisphere means that this update also comes with all good wishes and prayers for our fellow researchers in New Zealand. Below are the additions I found on my visit to the OPC website: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 24 February 2011 Marriages 1896 to 1921 from the Church of St James, Birch in Rusholme, Manchester Pages 62, 63, 96 and 97 previously missing from this Register have now been added Baptisms 1882 to 1914 from the Church of St Alban, Cheetham, Manchester Marriages 1852 to 1902 from Salem Methodist New Connexion, Cheetham, Manchester Marriages 1848 to 1849 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, Eccles Baptisms 1794 from the Collegiate Church (Cathedral), in the City of Manchester Updated with 71 new entries added Marriages 1763 to 1786 from the Church of St Nicholas, Newchurch in Rossendale These Marriages, previously extracted from the Bishop's Transcripts are replaced by the contents of the Parish Register and contain additional entries missing from the BTs Burials 1826 to 1829 and 1834 from St Chad in the Town of Rochdale Baptisms 1901 to 1902 from St Clement, Ordsall Burials 1792 to 1813 from St Peter, Swinton Marriages 1891 to 1897 from the Stowell Memorial Church, Weaste 23 February 2011 Marriages 1879 to 1898 from St Paul Astley Bridge, Bolton Marriages 1845 to 1846 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin in the Parish of Blackburn Baptisms 1909 to 1920 from St Thomas the Apostle, Halliwell, Bolton Baptisms 1861 to 1865 from the Parish of Burtonwood A continuation of the Register of Baptisms for 1842 to 1865 Marriages 1818 to 1825 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, Bury Baptisms 1885 to 1890 from the Church of St John the Evangelist in the Parish of Great Marsden Marriages 1945 to 1961 from the Church of St John in the Parish of Hindley Marriages 1678 to 1710 from St Michael in the Parish of Kirkham Marriages 1837 to 1920 from the Parish of Melling in Lonsdale Baptisms 1813 to 1825 from the Parish of Ringley Regards, Sally

    02/25/2011 04:25:57
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Rowland SHUTTLEWORTH; Elizabeth Ann LIVESEY; Charles William HOLLAND
    2. Jean Murray
    3. The 1891 & 1901 census sheets on the tree on ancestry do give parents as Thomas & Alice too; I wonder if there was a transcription error in Thomas' wife's name when the tree was uploaded.  Jean  --- On Thu, 24/2/11, sue fryer <sue.fryer@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: From: sue fryer <sue.fryer@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Rowland SHUTTLEWORTH; Elizabeth Ann LIVESEY; Charles William HOLLAND To: eng-lan-bolton@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 18:10 Thank you Jean, It doesn't sound quite right as I have his parents as Thomas and Alice but I shall go back through censuses and check this out and then make contact. Certainly has a lot of similarities. Sue <On the public member trees of ancestry.co.uk there is a Sutcliffe Carr family tree that has a Rowland/Roland Shuttleworth son of Thomas Shuttleworth & Emily Burrough born ca 1888. He is marked as arriving at Niagara Falls in 1913 also serving in WW1. If you think this is your Roland it might be worth contacting the tree owner who may have information [might be you of course!].  Jean >       :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/24/2011 12:04:31
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Rowland SHUTTLEWORTH; Elizabeth Ann LIVESEY; Charles William HOLLAND
    2. sue fryer
    3. Thank you Jean, It doesn't sound quite right as I have his parents as Thomas and Alice but I shall go back through censuses and check this out and then make contact. Certainly has a lot of similarities. Sue <On the public member trees of ancestry.co.uk there is a Sutcliffe Carr family tree that has a Rowland/Roland Shuttleworth son of Thomas Shuttleworth & Emily Burrough born ca 1888. He is marked as arriving at Niagara Falls in 1913 also serving in WW1. If you think this is your Roland it might be worth contacting the tree owner who may have information [might be you of course!].  Jean >       :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/24/2011 11:10:39
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Rowland SHUTTLEWORTH; Elizabeth Ann LIVESEY; Charles William HOLLAND
    2. judy olsen
    3. Coming to this late but if the info is from the baptisms then could for example Annie be baptised slightly older than usual. Or maybe there were twins and they agreed to register one to the married partner and the other to Mr Holland? Which would be weird, but families can be weird. Judy On 24 Feb 2011, at 16:44, sue fryer wrote: > ROWLAND/ROLAND SHUTTLEWORTH (Reg Bolton 1888) and ELIZABETH ANN > LIVESEY (Reg > Bolton 1890) were both working in cotton mills up to 1911. They > emigrated to > Canada and settled in Montreal between 1912-1913. > > This week I have been tracing back through the UK censuses and > going through > passenger lists to get them where I thought they should be in Canada. > > I have an anomaly with the birth of their children in Canada. I > believe there > was THOMAS SHUTTLEWORTH(1909 Bolton), JANE SHUTTLEWORTH (1912 > Bolton) and > WILLIAM SHUTTLEWORTH (1916 Montreal 1916). In the same year (and > within 2 > months) as William's birth there was child ANNIE HOLLAND (1916 > Montreal) born to > CHARLES WILLIAM HOLLAND and ELIZABETH ANN LIVESEY wife of ROLAND > SHUTTLEWORTH > > I can understand two fathers but not the same mother giving birth > to two > children in the space of two months. It is not possible. I am > struggling to > explain this or to clarify with evidence (I have baptisms for both) > what really > happened. > > > If you have any suggestions or you have these people in your family > please could > you contact me to share information. > > Regards > > Sue > Cumbria > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN- > BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/24/2011 10:39:05
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Rowland SHUTTLEWORTH; Elizabeth Ann LIVESEY; Charles William HOLLAND
    2. Jean Murray
    3. On the public member trees of ancestry.co.uk there is a Sutcliffe Carr family tree that has a Rowland/Roland Shuttleworth son of Thomas Shuttleworth & Emily Burrough born ca 1888. He is marked as arriving at Niagara Falls in 1913 also serving in WW1. If you think this is your Roland it might be worth contacting the tree owner who may have information [might be you of course!].  Jean  --- On Thu, 24/2/11, sue fryer <sue.fryer@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: From: sue fryer <sue.fryer@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Rowland SHUTTLEWORTH; Elizabeth Ann LIVESEY; Charles William HOLLAND To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 16:44 ROWLAND/ROLAND SHUTTLEWORTH (Reg Bolton 1888) and ELIZABETH ANN LIVESEY (Reg Bolton 1890) were both working in cotton mills up to 1911. They emigrated to Canada and settled in Montreal between 1912-1913. This week I have been tracing back through the UK censuses and going through passenger lists to get them where I thought they should be in Canada. I have an anomaly with the birth of their children in Canada. I believe there was THOMAS SHUTTLEWORTH(1909 Bolton), JANE SHUTTLEWORTH (1912 Bolton) and WILLIAM SHUTTLEWORTH (1916 Montreal 1916). In the same year  (and within 2 months) as William's birth there was child ANNIE HOLLAND (1916 Montreal) born to CHARLES WILLIAM HOLLAND and ELIZABETH ANN LIVESEY wife of ROLAND SHUTTLEWORTH  I can understand two fathers but not the same mother giving birth to two children in the space of two months. It is not possible. I am struggling to explain this or to clarify with evidence (I have baptisms for both) what really happened. If you have any suggestions or you have these people in your family please could you contact me to share information. Regards Sue Cumbria       :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/24/2011 10:39:01
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Rowland SHUTTLEWORTH; Elizabeth Ann LIVESEY; Charles William HOLLAND
    2. sue fryer
    3. Yes Jean I will reply to the list if anything comes through. And yes, I have 'been' to Canada on rootsweb where someone has given me the William baptism. Up until then it was slow going but relatively simple! Fingers crossed that someone else can assist too. Sue Cumbria > > >Sue, this  looks a fascinating topic - I hope you post the replies to the >group!! > > > >Have you tried also posting on the Canada board of rootschat? There are helpful >Canadian people there with access to a lot of records. > > >Jean  > > >Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Rowland SHUTTLEWORTH; Elizabeth Ann LIVESEY; Charles >William HOLLAND >>To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON@rootsweb.com >>Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 16:44 >> >> >>ROWLAND/ROLAND SHUTTLEWORTH (Reg Bolton 1888) and ELIZABETH ANN LIVESEY (Reg >>Bolton 1890) were both working in cotton mills up to 1911. They emigrated to >>Canada and settled in Montreal between 1912-1913. >> >>This week I have been tracing back through the UK censuses and going through >>passenger lists to get them where I thought they should be in Canada. >> >>I have an anomaly with the birth of their children in Canada. I believe there >>was THOMAS SHUTTLEWORTH(1909 Bolton), JANE SHUTTLEWORTH (1912 Bolton) and >>WILLIAM SHUTTLEWORTH (1916 Montreal 1916). In the same year  (and within 2 >>months) as William's birth there was child ANNIE HOLLAND (1916 Montreal) born to >> >>CHARLES WILLIAM HOLLAND and ELIZABETH ANN LIVESEY wife of ROLAND SHUTTLEWORTH  >> >>I can understand two fathers but not the same mother giving birth to two >>children in the space of two months. It is not possible. I am struggling to >>explain this or to clarify with evidence (I have baptisms for both) what really > >>happened. >> >> >>If you have any suggestions or you have these people in your family please could >> >>you contact me to share information. >> >>Regards >> >>Sue >>Cumbria >> >> >>      >> >>:-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: >> >>Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. >>Other people can learn from them! >> >> >> >

    02/24/2011 10:37:17
    1. [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Rowland SHUTTLEWORTH; Elizabeth Ann LIVESEY; Charles William HOLLAND
    2. sue fryer
    3. ROWLAND/ROLAND SHUTTLEWORTH (Reg Bolton 1888) and ELIZABETH ANN LIVESEY (Reg Bolton 1890) were both working in cotton mills up to 1911. They emigrated to Canada and settled in Montreal between 1912-1913. This week I have been tracing back through the UK censuses and going through passenger lists to get them where I thought they should be in Canada. I have an anomaly with the birth of their children in Canada. I believe there was THOMAS SHUTTLEWORTH(1909 Bolton), JANE SHUTTLEWORTH (1912 Bolton) and WILLIAM SHUTTLEWORTH (1916 Montreal 1916). In the same year  (and within 2 months) as William's birth there was child ANNIE HOLLAND (1916 Montreal) born to CHARLES WILLIAM HOLLAND and ELIZABETH ANN LIVESEY wife of ROLAND SHUTTLEWORTH  I can understand two fathers but not the same mother giving birth to two children in the space of two months. It is not possible. I am struggling to explain this or to clarify with evidence (I have baptisms for both) what really happened. If you have any suggestions or you have these people in your family please could you contact me to share information. Regards Sue Cumbria

    02/24/2011 09:44:54
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] anne hampson
    2. Joyce Stevens
    3. OMG. We/re both in Michigan, me Livonia. I have g-grandparents James Hampson and Ann Bullough of Bolton, Lancs, born c. 1850. I don't know where James was born. Both very poor. I have arthritis with difficulty writing. If you are willing, I'd love to discuss details on the phone. I have free long distance calling. I'm 248-777-1242. If so, send me your number to me at joycestevensd@twmi.rr.com Joyce -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of djmflag Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:04 PM To: eng-lan-bolton@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] anne hampson All along I thought Anne Hampson b 1802 daughter of Esther (Olive) andCharles Hampson was my g-g-g-grandmother married toJohn Collings, Dec. 14, 1821 Manchester Cathedral . A while back actually quite a while back I got a message from someone saying that that Anne Hampson married someone else. Now that I am going through The Collinges more thoroughly, I wonder. According to the information I have on the first Anne Hampson she she an John moved back to Radcliffe and their children were Thomas, Matthew, (my direct descendant) James and Hampson and died in 1873 the certificate with that information came from Bury Now I am wondering because second son was Matthew whether she was the daughter of Matthew Hampson born in 1799. and the daughter of Matthew Hampson and his wife.I would like to make sure so if anyone knows would they please e-mail me at DJMFLAG@aol.com Donna Collinge Martens, Muskegon, Michigan 49441 :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/22/2011 07:31:00
    1. [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] anne hampson
    2. djmflag
    3. All along I thought Anne Hampson b 1802 daughter of Esther (Olive) andCharles Hampson was my g-g-g-grandmother married toJohn Collings, Dec. 14, 1821 Manchester Cathedral . A while back actually quite a while back I got a message from someone saying that that Anne Hampson married someone else. Now that I am going through The Collinges more thoroughly, I wonder. According to the information I have on the first Anne Hampson she she an John moved back to Radcliffe and their children were Thomas, Matthew, (my direct descendant) James and Hampson and died in 1873 the certificate with that information came from Bury Now I am wondering because second son was Matthew whether she was the daughter of Matthew Hampson born in 1799. and the daughter of Matthew Hampson and his wife.I would like to make sure so if anyone knows would they please e-mail me at DJMFLAG@aol.com Donna Collinge Martens, Muskegon, Michigan 49441

    02/22/2011 07:03:59
    1. [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Lancs OPC update - 18 Feb 2011
    2. sally roberts
    3. Hello all, Here are the lastest databases added to the OPC site that I found on today's visit to the website: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ 18 February 2011 Baptisms 1818 to 1838 from the Church of St James, Whitechapel, in the Parish of Goosnargh Baptisms 1676 to 1687 from St Ellen's Chapel (later St Mary, now St Helen), in the Parish of St Helens Baptisms 1885 to 1914 and Marriages 1870 to 1901 from the Church of the Holy Trinity in the Parish of Warrington Marriages 1694 to 1716 from the Parish of Woodplumpton Marriages 1881 to 1901 from the Church of New St George in the Parish of Stalybridge Updated to add some missing marraiges 17 February 2011 Burials 1814 to 1856 from Ridgway Gates Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Bolton Baptisms 1873 to 1892 from the Church of St James, in the District of Gorton, Manchester Baptisms and Burials 1695 to 1812 from the Parish of Hambleton Replacing earlier versions with records extracted from the Parish Registers Marriages 1879 to 1885 from the Church of St Michael, in the District of Hulme, Manchester Baptisms 1878 to 1887 from the Church of St Stephen, in the District of Hulme, Manchester Banns 1880 to 1891 from the Church of St Mary in the Parish of Lancaster Burials 1880 to 1900 from the Parish of Longridge Baptisms 1777 to 1818 and Burials 1778 to 1818 from the Parish of Lowick Baptisms 1838 to 1862 from Hunter's Croft Independent, in the City of Manchester Baptisms 1891 to 1896 from St Mark, Newtown, Pemberton Baptisms 1928 to 1937 and Marriages 1927 to 1935 from St Matthew, Highfield, Pemberton Baptisms 1864 to 1877 and Marriages 1882 to 1889 from the Church of St Thomas in the Town of Preston Baptisms 1676 to 1686 from the Parish of Rainford Baptisms 1831 to 1854 from Christ Church, Salford Replacing a smaller batch from the Bishop's Transcripts with the records from the Parish register Marriages 1797 to 1837 from the Parish of Samlesbury Regards, Sally

    02/18/2011 01:18:06
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Lancs OPC update - 17 Feb 2011
    2. James Riding
    3. -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sally roberts Sent: 17 February 2011 10:30 To: eng-lan-eccles@rootsweb.com; eng-lan-bolton@rootsweb.com; eng-lan-blackburn@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Lancs OPC update - 17 Feb 2011 Hello Listers, The Lancs OPC site has added the following databases: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ Please note that the search engine facility has also been updated to include all of the parish records added to the site up until 9th February, this year. 16 February 2011 Baptisms, Burials and Marriages 1856 to 1859 from the Holy Trinity in the Parish of Bardsea Marriages 1881 to 1900 from All Hallows, Bispham Marriages 1844 to 1845 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin in the Parish of Blackburn Marriages 1883 to 1897 from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Blackpool Banns 1860 to 1900 from the Church of St James, Briercliffe Marriages 1754 to 1805 from the Parish of Broughton Banns 1844 to 1900 from the Parish of Eccleston Baptisms 1894 to 1898 from the Church of St Ambrose (later with All Saints), in the district of Everton, Liverpool Baptisms 1799 and 1802 to 1803 from the Church of St Nicholas, Liverpool Marriages 1813 to 1837 from the Church of St Nicholas, Newchurch in Rossendale Marriages from 1813 to 1824, previously extracted from the Bishop's Transcripts are replaced by the contents of the Parish Register Burials 1840 to 1864 from St Leonard in the Parish of Padiham Updated to add some missing years, but please note, there are still some years missing Baptisms 1905 to 1909 from the Church of St Thomas, Seaforth, Liverpool Baptisms 1717 to 1780 and Marriages 1600 to 1754 from the Church of St Helen, in the district of Sefton, Liverpool Baptisms 1583 to 1725, Marriages 1583 to 1660, 1672 to 1700 and 1716 to 1724 and Burials 1583 to 1725 from the Parish of Stalmine Baptisms 1791 to 1813 from the Parish of Tockholes A continuation of the Register of Baptisms for 1877 to 1813 Banns 1944 to 1949 and Marriages 1868 to 1883 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, West Derby, Liverpool Regards, Sally :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/17/2011 08:44:48
    1. [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Lancashire BMD updates 15 February 2011
    2. Lynne
    3. The latest from Lancashire BMD - 15 February 2011 Added 26,584 Deaths for Burnley RD comprising: Burnley East (1924-1946) ~ ~ ~ ~ Yorkshire and Cheshire BMD have also been updated. Many thanks to all responsible! Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Happy searching! Lynne

    02/17/2011 06:08:48
    1. [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Lancs OPC update - 17 Feb 2011
    2. sally roberts
    3. Hello Listers, The Lancs OPC site has added the following databases: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ Please note that the search engine facility has also been updated to include all of the parish records added to the site up until 9th February, this year. 16 February 2011 Baptisms, Burials and Marriages 1856 to 1859 from the Holy Trinity in the Parish of Bardsea Marriages 1881 to 1900 from All Hallows, Bispham Marriages 1844 to 1845 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin in the Parish of Blackburn Marriages 1883 to 1897 from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Blackpool Banns 1860 to 1900 from the Church of St James, Briercliffe Marriages 1754 to 1805 from the Parish of Broughton Banns 1844 to 1900 from the Parish of Eccleston Baptisms 1894 to 1898 from the Church of St Ambrose (later with All Saints), in the district of Everton, Liverpool Baptisms 1799 and 1802 to 1803 from the Church of St Nicholas, Liverpool Marriages 1813 to 1837 from the Church of St Nicholas, Newchurch in Rossendale Marriages from 1813 to 1824, previously extracted from the Bishop's Transcripts are replaced by the contents of the Parish Register Burials 1840 to 1864 from St Leonard in the Parish of Padiham Updated to add some missing years, but please note, there are still some years missing Baptisms 1905 to 1909 from the Church of St Thomas, Seaforth, Liverpool Baptisms 1717 to 1780 and Marriages 1600 to 1754 from the Church of St Helen, in the district of Sefton, Liverpool Baptisms 1583 to 1725, Marriages 1583 to 1660, 1672 to 1700 and 1716 to 1724 and Burials 1583 to 1725 from the Parish of Stalmine Baptisms 1791 to 1813 from the Parish of Tockholes A continuation of the Register of Baptisms for 1877 to 1813 Banns 1944 to 1949 and Marriages 1868 to 1883 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, West Derby, Liverpool Regards, Sally

    02/17/2011 03:30:05