I concur with Martin's previous reply. I also looked some years ago and gained some valuable information from them but you will need an approximate date of admission. I can't recall if they are on the open shelves - I don't think they are - so it would be wise to order them beforehand. -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of glen.proudfoot@wanadoo.fr Sent: 29 October 2011 10:19 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] FISHPOOL RECORDS Many thanks for the replies to my query. I'll be in Bolton in November so I can go and take a look myself. I presume the registers are available for research? Regards Glen Proudfoot Poitou-Charente, France :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks for the replies to my query. I'll be in Bolton in November so I can go and take a look myself. I presume the registers are available for research? Regards Glen Proudfoot Poitou-Charente, France

I know that the Registers of Death have now turned up, they were left on the Vicarage steps a couple of months ago, if her name is in that book, she will have been buried in the Parish Church yard. I have a friend who will look through the names, if you would like her to. Margaret Horrocks

I'm interested to know what dates are covered by these Registers of Death for Horwich Cemetery. Margaret H. wrote .............left on the Vicarage steps a couple of months ago, ......... I see Horwich Heritage have produced a CD http://horwichheritage.co.uk/publications.htm 'The Parish Records of Holy Trinity Church Horwich Lancashire from 1860' This CD contains transcripts of Holy Trinity baptism, marriage and burial records for the period 1860-1920, thus covering the opening and heyday of Horwich Loco Works. (Baptisms Oct 1860-July 1909, marriages Dec 1881-April 1917, burials April 1905-July 1920). Because some church records are missing, supplementary data for burials has been taken from Bishop's Transcripts 1873-1883 and 1888. Further supplementary data was taken from the church magazine for burials Jan 1889-Oct 1890. The CD is obtainable through the society’s website for £8 plus P&P. Please make enquiries about overseas shipment. Volume 2 1909-1945 £8 plus P&P. Also includes grave plan, Ridgmont burials 1928-45 and Livesey's Funeral Directors 1939-66. Derek Crompton London south-east

Looking for info. on Martha LEE of St Bartholomew, Westhoughton who married William JONES in Brymbo, Denbighshire, N. Wales in 1874. The marriage entry shows that Martha was a spinster of full age and the daughter of William LEE Brick Maker. The 1881 Brymbo census shows Matha JONES born 1856 and 2 children Edith L JONES 1875 and William JONES 1879 all born Westhoughton as visitors of William JONES born 1848 Brymbo and his father Samuel JONES. This Martha and children may be the family of William JONES and the person taking the census wanted to show that they were only visitors and not permanent residents of Brymbo. I’ve been unable to find William or Martha on any census post 1881 and it is possible that they emigrated to Edwardsville, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, USA., since some of William’s cousins had emigrated out there a few years previously. US census and death records however give a range of birth dates for Martha JONES between 1839 and 1852.Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I had a quick look in the Fishpool register years ago and from what I remember they were not indexed so only really feasible for them to check if there is a known date. Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of graham holt Sent: 28 October 2011 10:34 To: eng-lan-bolton@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] FISHPOOL RECORDS Bolton Archives and Local History Service hold many of these workhouse records including 'Workhouse Admissions and Discharge Registers, 1839-1930'. They may be willing to look for the information you are seeking. See their on-line catalogue for more information. Graham

Does anyone know if any admissions records exist for Fishpool, and if so, where they're lodged? My gt-grandfather, Demas DICKER, died of bulbar paralysis at Fishpool Workhouse, Farnworth in 1900. As he was missing from the 1891 census and his wife was shown as married, and head of family, I wondered if he had been admitted to Fishpool before the census date. Regards Glen Poitou-Charentes, France

Horwich had a municipal cemetery and it is possible that she was buried in Holy Trinity, the Horwich Parish Church which has a large graveyard. Bolton has a large cemetery at Heaton which is off Chorley New Rd. Bolton Municipal Cemeteries, including Horwich, records are held in Bolton Archives and Local History Service and at the Overdale Crematorium Offices. Graham On 26/10/2011 20:21, Kevin and Sandra Wilson wrote: > I have ordered the death certificate for Mary RAWLING ad it shows that she > died 25 August 1924 at Chorley New Road, Horwich aged 80 years. I am > wondering if I might be able to find where she might be buried please? > > Kind Regards > > Kevin Wilson > Brisbane Qld > Australia > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Bolton Archives and Local History Service hold many of these workhouse records including 'Workhouse Admissions and Discharge Registers, 1839-1930'. They may be willing to look for the information you are seeking. See their on-line catalogue for more information. Graham On 28/10/2011 11:18, glen.proudfoot@wanadoo.fr wrote: > Does anyone know if any admissions records exist for Fishpool, and if so, > where they're lodged? My gt-grandfather, Demas DICKER, died of bulbar > paralysis at Fishpool Workhouse, Farnworth in 1900. As he was missing from > the 1891 census and his wife was shown as married, and head of family, I > wondered if he had been admitted to Fishpool before the census date. > > Regards > > Glen > > Poitou-Charentes, France > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have ordered the death certificate for Mary RAWLING ad it shows that she died 25 August 1924 at Chorley New Road, Horwich aged 80 years. I am wondering if I might be able to find where she might be buried please? Kind Regards Kevin Wilson Brisbane Qld Australia

Hi Joyce You wrote: >By any remote chance, does a list of prisoners exist? If so, how can they >ex accessed? Take a look here: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/subjectView.asp?ID=O91353 and here: http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/448/archives_and_local_studies/3812/poor_law_and_workhouse_records/5 The Manchester & Lancashire FHS (http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/) have this: "Prestwich Asylum Index to Admissions 1851-1901 "An index to the admissions of over 22,000 men and women from the opening of the Asylum to the end of March 1901. Shows details of name, age & birthplace for each patient, with dates of admission and discharge. For some patients additional information may be included. Because the census returns for the Asylum list only patients' initials, this register is invaluable as a means of identifying patients in the census returns. The index provides a direct reference to the original documents which are divided between the Lancashire Record Offfice and the Greater Manchester County Record Office. These provide additional information about each patient including summary clinical notes and in many cases, particularly for more recent admissions, include a photograph of the patient." Kind regards, Lynne

+ By any remote chance, does a list of prisoners exist? If so, how can they ex accessed? -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:59 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] life in Prestwich Asylum in 1900 - Wednesday 9 November >From the Working Class Movement Library: The Library's popular series of free 'Invisible Histories' talks returns for the autumn. The first talk is on Wednesday 9 November 2pm when Alison Gill and Helen Ostell speak on 'Safety in numbers: life in Prestwich Asylum in 1900'. A glimpse into the history and daily life of this self-contained community which has cared for a forgotten sector of society for over 150 years. Includes hands-on experience of original artefacts from Greater Manchester County Record Office's collections. Working Class Movement Library, 51 The Crescent, Salford, U.K. M5 4WX 0161 7363601 :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From the Working Class Movement Library: The Library's popular series of free 'Invisible Histories' talks returns for the autumn. The first talk is on Wednesday 9 November 2pm when Alison Gill and Helen Ostell speak on 'Safety in numbers: life in Prestwich Asylum in 1900'. A glimpse into the history and daily life of this self-contained community which has cared for a forgotten sector of society for over 150 years. Includes hands-on experience of original artefacts from Greater Manchester County Record Office's collections. Working Class Movement Library, 51 The Crescent, Salford, U.K. M5 4WX 0161 7363601

Next meeting of Bolton & District FHS, a branch of MLFHS: Wednesday, November 2nd 2011 at 7.30pm. Venue: Bolton Cricket Club, Bishops Road, Bolton BL3 2JB The speaker is the local Lancashire historian Steven Williams and he plans to give his talk on WWI " A Mothers Tears", aimed particularly for those who feel that the First World War “isn’t for them”. He looks at the war from different eyes and perspectives using stories collected in his own research. All welcome and as usual a help desk will be available afterwards for individual research advice. Any queries to Barbara Owen Club Secretary on 01204 309515. http://www.familyhistorybolton.tk/

>From our friend Ian White, Treasurer, NWGFHS comes the following: North West Group of Family History Societies Are proud to present a Family History Day Fair 2011 "Tracing Family Trees" At The Bowlers Exhibition Centre, Manchester On Saturday, 29 October 2011 - 10:00 to 16:00 A once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to meet the experts and join in this unique event, featuring: Family History Societies, Record Offices, Professional Researchers, Maps, Books, Postcards, Help Desks, Publications and The latest Technology in Computers and Software at a Computer Market With Talks Provided by the Federation of Federation of Family History Societies Martin Edwards, 11 am - "First World War Memorials and the Men on Them" Luke Smith, 1 pm, Imperial War Museum - "Researching First World War Lives" Mike Coyle, 2.15 pm, War Memorial Trust - "War Memorials in Danger" Admission is £3:00 on the door. Please note seating for the talks is limited to 60 and tickets will be issued on a first come, first served basis. Young persons under 16 will be admitted free to the Hall if accompanied by an adult. A number 250 bus is available from Manchester Piccadilly Gardens Bus Station stand K (15 minute intervals from 09.00, journey time approximately 25 minutes to Ashburton Road roundabout. About 5 minutes walk to Bowlers (signposted). Organised by; MANCHESTER & LANCASHIRE FHS, THE CATHOLIC FHS (NORTH WEST), FHS of CHESHIRE, CUMBRIA FHS, LANCASHIRE FH & HERALDRY SOCIETY, LIVERPOOL & SW LANCS FHS, ,NORTH CHESHIRE FHSORMSKIRK & DISTRICT FHSN MEOLS (Southport) FHSTHE METCALFE SOCIETY, THE RIMMER SOCIETY and THE GUILD OF ONE-NAME STUDIES Affiliated members of the Federation of Family History Societies

Morning all, The following database has been added to the OPC site: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 23 October 2011 Graves index from Burnley Cemetery Compiled from the Burial registers to display the information grouped by grave number. The search engine has also been updated to include all records loaded prior to 17th October. Regards, Sally

News from the GRO: "As you are aware, the General Register Office for England and Wales (GRO) provides free public access to the index of events for birth,marriage,death, civil partnership, adoption and overseas records. This information is made available in microfiche format at a number of libraries and record offices across England and Wales. "The list of centres acting as host sites for the complete set of the GRO indexes is being extended to provide greater geographic coverage and from 14 November will include Newcastle City Library. "Please note that from 28 October, the indexes will no longer be available to view at the London Metropolitan Archives. "From the 14 November the list of centres holding a complete set of GRO indexes including those for more recent events will be as follows - * Birmingham Central Library * Bridgend Local and Family History Centre * City of Westminster Archives Centre * Manchester City Library * Newcastle City Library * Plymouth Central Library * The British Library." Further details on the records available can be found on the Directgov website http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governmentcitizensandrights/Registeringlifeevent s/Familyhistoryandresearch/DG_175464

Okay, here's my final announcement for the day. Find My Past the TV show is a new 10-part series - "The show starts on 20 October 2011 at 9pm on the Yesterday channel: Freeview channel 12, Sky 537, Virgin Media 203. Chris Hollins of BBC Breakfast, Watchdog and winner of Strictly Come Dancing 2009 presents the show. "Each week we help three members of the public to discover how they are related to someone from a significant historical event, by searching the records on findmypast.co.uk. We follow the participants' journeys, before uniting them to reveal how they are linked. "Every Friday morning, read all about the previous night's episode on FindMyPast, including which records were used to chart the participants' family histories. "Three of the episodes in the series will focus on significant events in WWII: Dunkirk, Battle of Britain and D-Day. We're building an online collection of photos to honour our heroes and we need your help. Share photos of your ancestors who were connected in any way to Dunkirk, Battle of Britain and D-Day with us and be a part of this fantastic tribute to our heroes. This feature will be available very soon on our Facebook page."

>From FFHS-NEWS: "Library and Archives Canada is pleased to announce the release of a new version of the online database Home Children (1869-1930).More than 20,000 names of children, who came to Canada between 1925 and 1932, were added to the extended version. The names were extracted from passengers lists held at Library and Archives Canada. The database is available at the following address: www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/home-children/index-e.html."

Forwarded with the author's permission. Please contact John directly if you can help. John Marsden <john@johnmarsden.name> wrote: > > The death register indexing team at Manchester register Office have > need of some more volunteers to undertake data entry at home. > > What is required is to transcribe from supplied images of register > index books into a spreadsheet and then return for checking. The > work is not technically demanding and does not require rapid turn > round. Volunteers can set their own pace (within reason!) and take > on as little or as much work as they wish. > > If you are interested in taking on some of this work (ideal for > long winter nights when you are stuck at home), please contact me > and I will pass on your name to the team leader. > > John > ++++++++++++ > John Marsden > Webmaster: > www.lancashirebmd.org.uk www.cumbriabmd.org.uk > www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk www.mlfhs.org.uk > Researching the MARSDEN surname worldwide