I am hoping that someone will be able to help or give me some suggestions on where to look. I am looking for the death dates of my family who lived in Bolton and later moved to St. Annes-on-Sea and was living there in 1926 when my great-grandfather, Heinrich Johannes Christoph Gustav Erber (aka Harry Gustav Erber, b. 1879), gained British citizenship. He had married a 2nd time after the death of my great-grandma Henrietta Bertha Roberts (between 1980-1914), to Sarah Jane Elliott. I am mostly looking for the death information of his son Neville Harry Erber who had been born 12 March 1918 in Bolton, though it would be neat to know when my great-grandparents died also. Thank you for your time. Michele Bender

Hello. I'm still trying to track my Alice Hamer married ? Groves. Since she was Lady Groves at some point, would that make her husband Lord Groves? I went to deaths - and there are three Alice Grove deaths which are possible - but the most likely is Alice Groves born about 1853 (she was) died 4/4 1909 in Prestwich, Lancs. 8d 217 If the only way to get more info is to order the certificate, I'll do that - but I wondered if there's a way which isn't too difficult to see what info is available - as in her husband's name and I might be able to work from there... If anyone has access to this information, please could you let me know? Alice was born in Breightmet or maybe registered Bolton in 1853. Her father was my great-great grandfather. I have a photo of her with my grandfather when he was a little boy about 1895. Thank you so much for any help and suggestions, Ros in Montreal

Hi. I have some Guffoggs in Bolton. any connection? I can share that info - though there's not a lot... Ros

Thank you very much Martin. I was looking for Edward Rowan not sure yet if he is my relative. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Martin Briscoe [mailto:mbriscoe@zetnet.co.uk] Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 8:22 AM To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON]1811,21,31 census lookup? 1811 Neither 1821 ROW, Peter Grime Street District 7 ROWEN, Widow Middle Street District 6 1831 ROWAN, Edward 29 Back Dawes Street District 7 ROWLANDSON, Scholastica 18 Moor Lane District 15 (I just liked the name!) As I wrote before, this is only Great Bolton Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: Mark & Karen Hodges [mailto:hodgs@bigpond.com] Sent: 30 April 2006 22:53 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON]1811,21,31 census lookup? Would some kind person be able to tell me if there is any Rowan or Broderick families list in the early Bolton census? Families of both surnames are listed in 1841 at Bolton le Moors. TIA Karen ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== Bolton Metro - bolton@bolton.gov.uk ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== For Family/Local History covering Bolton, Horwich, Farnworth, Westhoughton and Turton. Please keep the messages coming. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Would some kind person be able to tell me if there is any Rowan or Broderick families list in the early Bolton census? Families of both surnames are listed in 1841 at Bolton le Moors. TIA Karen

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1811 Neither 1821 ROW, Peter Grime Street District 7 ROWEN, Widow Middle Street District 6 1831 ROWAN, Edward 29 Back Dawes Street District 7 ROWLANDSON, Scholastica 18 Moor Lane District 15 (I just liked the name!) As I wrote before, this is only Great Bolton Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: Mark & Karen Hodges [mailto:hodgs@bigpond.com] Sent: 30 April 2006 22:53 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON]1811,21,31 census lookup? Would some kind person be able to tell me if there is any Rowan or Broderick families list in the early Bolton census? Families of both surnames are listed in 1841 at Bolton le Moors. TIA Karen ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== Bolton Metro - bolton@bolton.gov.uk ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

I am looking for a William Heap that married a Margaret Hart July 1826.. Children ( certificate proof) Joseph b) 1842 (brushmaker) g g grandad married Sarah Holden 1861 Margaret b) 1847 married Edward Howard and Edward b 1849 ( brushmaker) married Lucy Marsh and went to live in Castleton.... I can go back four ways.. 1 born Abraham & Betty 1796 age 40 1841 census, 2) John and Ann b) 1803, 3) Geo. & Esther b) 1802 or a long shot. William & Mary London.... son William born 1797.... Hope somewone out there can help..... Margaret Calderbank... ( nee Heap)

Hello everyone, This is just to let you know that I've added a new page to my website re Register of Births at Fletcher Street Workhouse, 1839-1861, url http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~boltongenealogy/fletcherstworkhouse.htm Check now to see if your ancestor is amongst them. Valerie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 28/04/2006

I was not sure if other areas were available in the library but their catalogue only has Great Bolton as you write. Author Bolton and District Family History Society Other titles by Author(s) Title Great Bolton Census Index 1811,1821,1831. Control Number k2471637 Notes 3 vols Shelved at 901 See other titles for this subject Copies:Location Shelfmark Loan Type Availability Copies Loans Central Local Studies Local studies quick reference 901/BOL Reference Available 1 0 Hide details Barcode Due Date Reserves Notes 04983505 Available 0 Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: BARBARA WINDER [mailto:barbara@wonderwinder.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 30 April 2006 10:06 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] 1811,21,31 census lookup?? they told me when I asked they only have these. Barbara

they told me when I asked they only have these. Barbara

Hi Martin Thanks very much for looking for my CLITHEROE'S. They must have moved to Great Bolton between 1831 and 1841 . Thanks again Pamela -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 28/04/2006

Sorry forgot to mention details from 1841. Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Walker" <jenniferwalker@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Kennnerdell/Kennerdale > > There is a John Kennerrell, aged 60, Living Bolton HO107/0535/4-F~36, S&N > CD 20 H-535.pdf p 37 > > Joseph, Kennerdale, aged 23, Hannah, aged 22, & Richard aged 2 living > Bolton > HO107/0536/10~F42 S&N CD 21 H_536_3.pdf pg 84 > > Unfortunately unable to find a James. > > Hope the above is of some use. > Jenny > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "jk hats" <jkhats@hotmail.com> > To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 6:09 PM > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] 1811,21,31 census lookup?? > > >> >> Could anyone owning the fiche be kind enough to do a look up on the >> above censuses? The names I am interested in are John >> Kennerdell/Kennerdale/Kendale born c1825 and James of the same name born >> c1780's. Any mention of the name would be very much appreciated. Many >> thanks >> Judith Kennerdale >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== >> To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then >> subscribe to the other. >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > Bolton Metro - bolton@bolton.gov.uk > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

There is a John Kennerrell, aged 60, Living Bolton HO107/0535/4-F~36, S&N CD 20 H-535.pdf p 37 Joseph, Kennerdale, aged 23, Hannah, aged 22, & Richard aged 2 living Bolton HO107/0536/10~F42 S&N CD 21 H_536_3.pdf pg 84 Unfortunately unable to find a James. Hope the above is of some use. Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "jk hats" <jkhats@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 6:09 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] 1811,21,31 census lookup?? > > Could anyone owning the fiche be kind enough to do a look up on the above > censuses? The names I am interested in are John > Kennerdell/Kennerdale/Kendale born c1825 and James of the same name born > c1780's. Any mention of the name would be very much appreciated. Many > thanks > Judith Kennerdale > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then > subscribe to the other. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

The only graveyard I know of in the area of Moor Lane is now occupied by St. Paul's, Deansgate. Recent remedial works to this church have revealed several unidentified human remains which were thought to have been paupers, which have been reinterred at Walmsley Unitarian Chapel. There are expected to be more as these works progress. The identity of these people will probably never be known. Valerie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 28/04/2006

Donna did you get my e-mail telling you I found Anne Collinge and children in the 1841 census but not John? I have heard from two other Hampson lines this month, Richard Hampson and George Hampson. I've kept your info in my file, you never know. Val c. DJMFLAG@aol.com wrote: >Hi: My g-g-g- grandfather was Charles Hampson of Radcliffe. His daughter >Ann was married to my g-g-grandfather John Collinge in 1821 at Manchester >Cathedral. When I visited Radcliffe a couple of years back I visited St. Mary's >C.of E, the parish church of Radcliffe. The grave yard was full of >Hampsons. Apparently, the Hampsons were very influential in the community and in the >church. Maybe some of your family might have been one of them. > >My Charles Hampson was born in 1772. I doubt that he was related to your >Hampsons as I don't think my relatives were very prosperous. My Grandfather >John Collinge and his wife Ann (nee Hampson) were buried in St. Thomas's >cemetery, Radcliffe. > >Donna Collinge Martens, Muskegon, Michigan > > >==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > >

Hi Stevan, Well spotted! I'm sure that must be the right one. Ancestry have decided it says Goodwich, but it looks a bit more like Gooderich to me. I'm used to the many misspellings and mistranscriptions of Thornley, and I tried as many options as I could think of for GOODRICH, but I missed that one. Thanks again, Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton From: "Stevan" <stevan@navets.freeserve.co.uk> Hi Bob Could this be your Henry P Goodrich in 1871 RG10/1873 Folio: 48 Page: 16 <snip>

Sorry none in 1811, 1821 or 1831 but the fiches are only for Great Bolton. Not sure if any other areas held at Bolton Library. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > -----Original Message----- > From: KENNETH GOODRICH [mailto:goodrich@775.net] > Sent: 29 April 2006 06:35 > To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] 1811,21,31 census lookup?? > > Hi, my great grandfather was born in Bolton April 1828...they > wre not Catholics...would there be records of him..William > Lefley born to Robert and Amy Evans Lefley...Does anyone know > of a Bernard Lefley...the name Bernard was given one of his > children in Pennsylvania...thank you. martha goodrich > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jk hats" <jkhats@hotmail.com> > To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:09 AM > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] 1811,21,31 census lookup??

Sorry none in 1811, 1821 or 1831 but the fiches are only for Great Bolton. Not sure if they have any others in Bolton Library. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > -----Original Message----- > From: pamela [mailto:pamelas@blueyonder.co.uk] > Sent: 29 April 2006 11:18 > To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] 1811,21,31 census lookup for Cltheroe > > Hello Martin > If it isn't asking too much could you look for > Clitheroe/Clitherow in the censuses. In the 1841 census they > lived at Claremont Great Bolton Thank you Pamela

Hi Martha, I can't help with Bernard LEFLEY, but by coincidence, last night I was struggling to find Henry Portrey GOODRICH in the census returns. He appears on FreeBMD born June Q 1852 in Thetford, then marrying Alice Jane THORNLEY (this is where I got interested) in Bolton in March Q 1877. He's mentioned as H P GOODRICH husband of Alice on a headstone at New Chapel URC, Horwich, recording Alice's death aged 24 on 8 Jan 1878, possibly in childbirth. I can't find him in any census other than the 1881 where he's Henry GOODERICH (sic), a fruiterer born Methwald, Norfolk, living with Alice Jane's parents John & Alice THORNLEY. I wonder now if he could have been with your Bolton GOODRICHes in PA? Best wishes, Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton From: "KENNETH GOODRICH" <goodrich@775.net> > Hi, my great grandfather was born in Bolton April 1828...they wre not > Catholics...would there be records of him..William Lefley born to Robert > and Amy Evans Lefley...Does anyone know of a Bernard Lefley...the name > Bernard was given one of his children in Pennsylvania...thank you. martha > goodrich