Hi Margaret, In my index for St. Peter's marriages I came across this marriage, transcribed Heaps. I will check this out when I next go to the Archives. However, the records will probably not tell me very much more than this, apart from occupation, witnesses, and whether of that parish. Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin & Margaret" <marlin.2817@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:17 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Heap >I am looking for a William Heap that married a Margaret Hart July 1826.. >Children ( certificate proof) Joseph b) 1842 (brushmaker) g g grandad >married Sarah Holden 1861 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 28/04/2006

Hi Martin, I didn't know Bolton had names on these censuses! Thought it was just the odd district here and there. Even if it is just head of household, that's much more helpful than I imagined. Sorry to jump in here, but could I possibly get a list of Blundell? Blundle? They were living on Back Cannon Street/Cannon Street from 1841-1871. Henry, James, hoping for a William too. Where are the fiche available? TIA, Leisha Central Penna

Hello List People I'm new to the list. My interest is in the surname FIDLER. I have a marriage For Valentine Fidler in 1790 at St. Peter's, Bolton, but I know he was not christened there. He was born in 1769, and according to his death record, possibly in Greater Bolton. I understand this to be an outlying village of Bolton although why it would be called greater, I'm blessed if I know. Can anyone help me with a likely Church for his christening? Brian Fidler Sydney Australia ------------------------------------------------------------ This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au

Hi Ros, I've checked FreeBMD for this marriage from 1873 to 1890 but haven't found it. Have you considered the possibility that she might have married twice, and therefore would not have been Alice Hamer when she married Groves? Have you found her on any census. If so, could I please have the details. Thanks. Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roslyn Macgregor" <tigerrs@ca.inter.net> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 12:41 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] ALICE HAMER - married GROVES > Hello. > > My great-grandfather, Thomas Hamer had a sister, Alice Hamer, born > Breightmet about 1853. In a photo in the 1890's recently discovered, she > is with my grandfather as a little boy. She was, by then, it seems Lady > Groves. They might have married somewhere other than Bolton, of course. > > Roslyn Macgregor in Montreal > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > Bolton Metro - bolton@bolton.gov.uk > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/326 - Release Date: 27/04/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 28/04/2006

Hi Valerie, Terrific site. I may have a possible connection there. We'll see. thanks for this, Leisha Central Penna ----- Original Message ----- From: Valerie Lirakis<mailto:v.lirakis@ntlworld.com> To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 6:43 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Valerie's Website Hello everyone, This is just to let you know that I've added a new page to my website re Register of Births at Fletcher Street Workhouse, 1839-1861, url http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~boltongenealogy/fletcherstworkhouse.htm<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~boltongenealogy/fletcherstworkhouse.htm> Check now to see if your ancestor is amongst them. Valerie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 28/04/2006 ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com> (if in mail mode) or ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com> (if in digest mode.) ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx>

Hi Tina, There is also a burial ground in Cloister Street for St. Paul's, Halliwell 1864-1960. Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: "C Port" <cport@bigpond.net.au> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 1:53 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Cemetery info > If family died in or near Halliwell, which cemetery would they most likely > be buried in. Am talking of the 1900's. > > Thanks > > Tina > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then > subscribe to the other. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 28/04/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 28/04/2006

Hello Briar and welcome to the list. I have Fidlers in my tree but mine are from Derbyshire/Cheshire. Graham Fidler has a one name study on this surname. He may be able to help you. His address is grahamfidler@btinternet.com Good luck, Val Chadwick USA brfidler@netspace.net.au wrote: >Hello List People >I'm new to the list. My interest is in the surname FIDLER. I have a marriage For >Valentine Fidler in 1790 at St. Peter's, Bolton, but I know he was not >christened there. He was born in 1769, and according to his death record, >possibly in Greater Bolton. I understand this to be an outlying village of >Bolton although why it would be called greater, I'm blessed if I know. >Can anyone help me with a likely Church for his christening? >Brian Fidler >Sydney >Australia > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------ >This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au > > >==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== >To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then subscribe to the other. > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > >

I don't know if there's anay connection, but I've done a fair bit on Fidlers from Cheshire - for someone in my sister-in-law's family, If you like, I could send the info to you... Ros in Montreal ----- Original Message ----- From: <brfidler@netspace.net.au> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 9:17 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Fidler in Bolton > Hello List People > I'm new to the list. My interest is in the surname FIDLER. I have a > marriage For > Valentine Fidler in 1790 at St. Peter's, Bolton, but I know he was not > christened there. He was born in 1769, and according to his death record, > possibly in Greater Bolton. I understand this to be an outlying village of > Bolton although why it would be called greater, I'm blessed if I know. > Can anyone help me with a likely Church for his christening? > Brian Fidler > Sydney > Australia > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then > subscribe to the other. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Hi Martin Thanks for your help with this one. Will try and get the film for it. Regards Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Briscoe" <mbriscoe@zetnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:41 PM Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Cemetery info > Any of the municipal cemeteries, probably depending on family connections > or > there is quite a large burial ground at St Peter's Church, Halliwell. > > > > > Martin Briscoe > Fort William > M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: C Port [mailto:cport@bigpond.net.au] > Sent: 01 May 2006 01:53 > To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Cemetery info > > If family died in or near Halliwell, which cemetery would they most likely > be buried in. Am talking of the 1900's. > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then > subscribe to the other. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi, Following my earlier posting, Lynn Ransom Burton has kindly drawn my attention to an entry on the LDS site www.familysearch.org showin that LDS did in fact film three years of bishops transcripts held at the Lancashire RO at Preston, which cover St Peter's Halliwell from 1840 to 1843. One slight concern is that in the notes for this item, St Luke's Church is referred to, rather than St Peter's. The church has always denied that any such filming was allowed to take place, but they would quite possibly not have the ability to have controlled what happend to the BTs held at Preston. This is very interesting new infomation, for which I thank Lynne. I wonder if anyone has already followed this up and examined the film? If not I shall certainly do so. Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton

I'd like to know the answer, please. Ros in Montreal

Has anyone used the National Burial Index on CD-Rom - Second Edition 2004? If so, is it worth the money? What percentage of England is covered? Thank you. Michele Bender

Hi Tina, Unfortunately, there is no access to the registers of St Peter's, Halliwell, other than by directly contacting the church. They have never released any registers for filming and did not allow the LDS to transcribe them. office@stphalliwell.freeserve.co.uk Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton From: "C Port" <cport@bigpond.net.au> > Hi Martin > Thanks for your help with this one. > Will try and get the film for it.

There are four ERBER in the post-1984 Death Index (only part that is fully searchable) Edith Shirley ERBER 31 Jul 1932 - Apr 1985 Age 52 Blackpool and Fylde Edna ERBER 4 Aug 1908 - Feb 1997 Age 88 Blackpool and Fylde Martha ERBER 18 Oct 1900 - Nov 1993 Age 93 Lincoln Mooi Yoon ERBER 23 Jan 1944 - Aug 1992 Age 48 Chippenham There are also four marriages and one birth after 1984 Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: Michele Bender [mailto:mishbender@insightbb.com] Sent: 01 May 2006 14:27 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] suggestions or help needed for research I am hoping that someone will be able to help or give me some suggestions on where to look. I am looking for the death dates of my family who lived in Bolton and later moved to St. Annes-on-Sea and was living there in 1926 when my great-grandfather, Heinrich Johannes Christoph Gustav Erber (aka Harry Gustav Erber, b. 1879), gained British citizenship. He had married a 2nd time after the death of my great-grandma Henrietta Bertha Roberts (between 1980-1914), to Sarah Jane Elliott. I am mostly looking for the death information of his son Neville Harry Erber who had been born 12 March 1918 in Bolton, though it would be neat to know when my great-grandparents died also. Thank you for your time. Michele Bender

Hello - new to the list. Seems a very busy site. Am looking to find a link for the McGuffogs from Scotland to Bolton or anywhere to Bolton. We're back to the 1700's but don't know where to look now to find the missing link back to Scotland. Any suggestions? Thanks, Jane -------------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email address at http://www.merseymail.com/

> Hi Joan, > > I don't know if you found the above in 1841. I have just had a look and I > think this could be them. > > Deansgate, Bolton > > James Horrocks 35 Publican > Sarah 25 > Henry 15 > William 12 > Jane 5 > Reuben 3 > Sarah 1 month. All born in County. > > I don't know who Henry and William are because Sarah is not old enough to > be their mother. Jane and Reuben fit with the family you found in 1851. > > Anne in Bolton > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan Bridges" <jbridges@magma.ca> > To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:42 PM > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] HORROCKS of Little Bolton > > >> At last, I think I have had a break through with my NORRIS/CALDERLEY >> marriage, >> but as always, more questions are raised. >> >> George NORRIS had a sister Ann on the 1861 census at Lum St. I think she >> married >> Shepherd HORROCKS in 1868. They are in Ohio by 1870 US census >> >> I have Shepherd on the 1851 census, age 5 at 5, Manor St. >> ( HO107/2209-3/238/25) but have not found him in 1861. >> >> Shepherd had a brother Reuben, age 14 in 1851. He married >> Susannah FISHER in 1857. They went to Ohio in 1863. >> >> Shepherd's other brothers were Isreal, age 8 & Valentine, age 2. >> Parents James (49) & Sarah (34) 1851 census. All born in Bolton >> >> Any help or suggestions will, as always, be gratefully accepted. >> >> Regards from Ottawa, Canada >> >> Joan

If family died in or near Halliwell, which cemetery would they most likely be buried in. Am talking of the 1900's. Thanks Tina

Hi Can SKS help with an address lookup for 1901 Census please. Am wondering who was living at 149 Ellesmere Street Farnworth. Thanks Tina

Any of the municipal cemeteries, probably depending on family connections or there is quite a large burial ground at St Peter's Church, Halliwell. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: C Port [mailto:cport@bigpond.net.au] Sent: 01 May 2006 01:53 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Cemetery info If family died in or near Halliwell, which cemetery would they most likely be buried in. Am talking of the 1900's.

Hi If SKS is going to Bolton Archives would appreciate a look up please. I am interested in an Inquest held on the 5th October 1936 for a Margaret Alice WOODBURN. Thanks for any help. Tina