So much has been said on the list about James Winstanley, Bolton's Outdoor Photographer, that I thought you might like to see what he looked like, url http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~boltongenealogy/photogallery_3.htm Valerie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 05/05/2006

Hi again Joyce, I have just been going through my notes, and I realise that the Patrick Scott, whose birth I found on the GRO Index, is probably the one whose baptism record I sent to you - Parents James Scott and Ann Daghery. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Lennard" <joycelennard@shaw.ca> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] SCOTT BAPTISMS - ST. PETER AND PAUL'S > Hi Anne, > > Yes indeed you have made a find here. > > To the best of my knowledge Patrick Scott and Alice Darcy were my gg > grandparents. I have yet to prove it beyond doubt. I have never been able > to place grandfather Patrick Scott, b.1853, in the same household as the > senior Patrick. Patrick Jr does list Patrick Sr as his father on his > marriage certificate. What I need more than anything else is Patrick Jr's > birth record. He claims to have been born in Newcastle Northumberland. > Hours of searching have turned up nothing yet. So far my great grandfather > only married, he was never born and did not die! > > I have a birth certificate for a Mary Ann Scott born, Dec. 12 1863, to > Patrick Scott and Alice Darcy. Maybe the first Mary died or or the second > one went by the name of Ann. > > The other birth you found is interesting and I will keep it on file for > future reference. > > Thank you so much for keeping me in mind when you are searching. > > I have been working on putting an album together of my trip to Bolton. I > see that my cousin was re elected yesterday. I'm sure all my ancestors in > Tonge are very pleased. > > Thanks again Anne > > Joyce in Victoria > On Friday, May 5, 2006, at 03:10 PM, pneanne wrote: > >> Hi Joyce, >> >> I found these Scotts in the St. Peter and Paul's Baptism Records. Could >> they belong to you? >> >> Born 4th February, 1854 christened 26th February, Mary Scott, Father >> Patrick, Mother Alice Darcy. Godparents Patrick Darcy and Mary > McEvoy. >> >> Born 3rd March, 1854, christened 29th March, Patrick Scott, Father >> James, Mother Ann Dagherty. Godparents James Kelly and Catherine Queen. >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> Anne in Bolton. >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to >> ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or >> ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > Bolton Metro - bolton@bolton.gov.uk > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Hi Joyce, Which Censuses have you got Patrick Scott Jnr. on? Have you got him on the 1871 Census visiting Stephen Darcy? I have tried to find him in 1861, but so far I have not been able to find him. I have found a birth, on the GRO Index, for Patrick Scott, born in the March Quarter, 1854, Bolton. I know the census says he was born in Newcastle, but it may be worth applying for the Bolton one, just in case they have his place of birth wrong. Patrick Snr. and Alice's other children were born in Bolton. Best Wishes, Anne in Bolton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Lennard" <joycelennard@shaw.ca> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] SCOTT BAPTISMS - ST. PETER AND PAUL'S > Hi Anne, > > Yes indeed you have made a find here. > > To the best of my knowledge Patrick Scott and Alice Darcy were my gg > grandparents. I have yet to prove it beyond doubt. I have never been able > to place grandfather Patrick Scott, b.1853, in the same household as the > senior Patrick. Patrick Jr does list Patrick Sr as his father on his > marriage certificate. What I need more than anything else is Patrick Jr's > birth record. He claims to have been born in Newcastle Northumberland. > Hours of searching have turned up nothing yet. So far my great grandfather > only married, he was never born and did not die! > > I have a birth certificate for a Mary Ann Scott born, Dec. 12 1863, to > Patrick Scott and Alice Darcy. Maybe the first Mary died or or the second > one went by the name of Ann. > > The other birth you found is interesting and I will keep it on file for > future reference. > > Thank you so much for keeping me in mind when you are searching. > > I have been working on putting an album together of my trip to Bolton. I > see that my cousin was re elected yesterday. I'm sure all my ancestors in > Tonge are very pleased. > > Thanks again Anne > > Joyce in Victoria > On Friday, May 5, 2006, at 03:10 PM, pneanne wrote: > >> Hi Joyce, >> >> I found these Scotts in the St. Peter and Paul's Baptism Records. Could >> they belong to you? >> >> Born 4th February, 1854 christened 26th February, Mary Scott, Father >> Patrick, Mother Alice Darcy. Godparents Patrick Darcy and Mary > McEvoy. >> >> Born 3rd March, 1854, christened 29th March, Patrick Scott, Father >> James, Mother Ann Dagherty. Godparents James Kelly and Catherine Queen. >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> Anne in Bolton. >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to >> ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or >> ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > Bolton Metro - bolton@bolton.gov.uk > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Martin Could I also ask you for a look-up please? I am after Robert and Betty Grundy born approx 1770-1775 possibly an Alice born c1792 and Robert jnr c born 1804. Keeping fingers crossed Many thanks Dorothy Livesey

Dozens of them! I am just going to list the first name and address (unless there is a variation in the spelling of the surname) 1811 CROMPTON Alice Back Queen Street Ann House Ann School Street Anne New Acres Doctor Howell Croft Ellen Workhouse Lane Geo. John Street George Sweet Green Hannah New Row Hannah Taylor Brow James Howell Croft Jas. Back Bridge Street Jas. Lever Street James Lupton Street Jas. Stott Hillock James Union Buildings James Union Buildings John Lever Street John Middle Street John Rose Street John Stott Hillock John York Street Jno. Green Street Jno. Middle Street Joseph Lottery Row Mary Spring Gardens Mathew Back King Street Misses T & W Deansgate Peter Idle Lane R. Cross Axe Yard Robert Noble Street Robt. Sweet Green Sarah Howell Croft Sml. King Street Thos. Deansgate Thos. Markland Houses Thos. Ridgway Buildings Thos. York Street Wm. Bengal Square W. Churchgate Wm. Middle Street Wm. School Street 1831 Wm. Silverwell St. Ann Bradshawgate Betty Bradshawgate Ellen Old Hall St. Geo. Blackburn St. Hanna Dukes Alley Heny. Water St. Jas. Acresfield Jas. Churchgate James Heywood Entry Jas. John St. James Kay St. Mr. Jas. Shorfield St. Jas. Weston St. Jno. Great Moor Street Jno. Pepper Alley John Slater St. John Stothill St. Jos. Churchgate Martha Weston St. Mary Churchgate Mrs. Acresfield Peter Water St. Thomas Bradshawgate Thos. Deansgate Thos. 9 Houses Thomas Howell Croft Thomas James St. Thos. Lever St. Wm. Churchgate Wm. New Row Wm. Pike St. Will School St. Wm. King St. 1831 Ann Bolling Green Chas. Cannon Street Edmund 13 York Street Ellen 6 Old Hall Street George 52 Pikes Lane Hannah 28 Front Cross Street Henry Rushtons B... Henry 28 York Street J. Glazbrook Lane James 12 Ashburner Street James 11 Blackburn Street James Howell Croft Jas. 26 Meal House Lane James Rose Hill James Rose Hill James 44 York Street Jas. 3 Makinsons Sq. Jas. 11 Myre Street Jno. Fitton Houses Jno. 5 Makinsons Sq. Jno. 31 Old Acres John 88 Blackhorse Street John 16 Crownscourt John Grime Street John (?) Middle Street John 29 Middle Street Jonathan 7 Punch Street Joseph Howell Croft Mary Flaggs Nathaniel 18 Green Street Robert 18 Shaw Street Robt. 5 Water Street Roger 56 Lever Street Thos. Bk. Andrews St. Thos. 1 Back Great Moor Street Thos. 106 Deansgate Thomas Howell Croft Thos. Lever Street Thomas John Street Thos. 14 Market Street Wm. 6 Gregonsfield Wm. West Blk. Horse St. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: Dellcrom@aol.com [mailto:Dellcrom@aol.com] Sent: 06 May 2006 17:04 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] 1811/21/31 census Martin Any CROMPTON's listed in the Greater Bolton census. Derek Crompton

Hi Valerie, Mary was born in Ireland. That's why I was thinking that Co may have meant Cork, or County-something-or-other. I'm not quite sure how to go about finding any records in Ireland. From what I have heard, many of the records there have been destroyed. I had forgotten that the ages were rounded down to the nearest multiple of five. Thanks for reminding me of that. Sylvia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Lirakis" <v.lirakis@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] census 1831 and 1841 lookup please > Hi Sylvia, > In this case, born in the Co. means county. Do you know where their > daughter, Mary, was born? If it wasn't in Bolton, then the family were > unlikely to have been living in Bolton in 1831 when the census was taken. > > Bear in mind that in 1841 adults' ages were rounded down to the nearest > multiple of 5. > > Valerie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norm and Sylvia" <nsatstanwelltops@smartchat.net.au> > To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 8:46 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] census 1831 and 1841 lookup please > > >> > Would you have any idea what Co. stands for? As in Mary, 20, born in >> > Co. I >> know that she was born in Ireland, so do you think that it could be Cork? >> or County ? >> Sylvia > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.4/332 - Release Date: 04/05/2006 > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Hi Anne, Yes, I have Patrick living with Stephen Darcy in 1871, also in 1881 living at 56 Reservoir St with Charles Darcy and his sisters. The other Scott family ie James Scott, I am sure are somehow related. In 1891 they are living at Bk Soho St where most of my family lived. I did send for the birth record of the other Patrick Scott but of course he had the wrong parents. The other person whose birth record I have never been able to find is my grandmother Mary Alice Scott b. 1883, mother Mary Gryer (Grier). I wonder if she could also be registered at St Peter and Paul's? Patrick and Mary were married at St Patrick's Church. Any help with this brick wall is greatly appreciated. Joyce On Saturday, May 6, 2006, at 05:09 PM, pneanne wrote: > Hi again Joyce, > > I have just been going through my notes, and I realise that the > Patrick Scott, whose birth I found on the GRO Index, is probably the > one whose baptism record I sent to you - Parents James Scott and Ann > Daghery. > > Anne > ----- >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to >>> ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or >>> ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and >>> the >>> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >>> >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== >> Bolton Metro - bolton@bolton.gov.uk >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/ >> tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > For Family/Local History covering Bolton, Horwich, Farnworth, > Westhoughton and Turton. Please keep the messages coming. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Hi Valerie, Thank you very much for looking up James Rodgers for me. James age is right, and his wife Mary is slightly older than he is. That fits, too. Actually she is a couple of years older than the one that I was looking for, but they do have a daughter Mary, too. The daughter Mary is probably my gt. gt. grandmother. The mother and daughter's ages are a little out, but all through Mary (the daughter)'s life she varied her age quite a lot. So, I think that I will pencil them in as gt. gt. gt. grandparents. Thanks very much for that. Would you have any idea what Co. stands for? As in Mary, 20, born in Co. I know that she was born in Ireland, so do you think that it could be Cork? or County ? Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Lirakis" <v.lirakis@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] census 1831 and 1841 lookup please > Hi Sylvia, > I've found the following on the 1841 for Lancashire, HO107/0523/F17 > > Morris's Row, Wigan > James Rogers, 40, weaver, born Ireland > Mary, 45, born Ireland > Elizabeth, 25, born in Co,. > Mary, 20, born in Co. > Ann, 10, born in Co. > > I didn't find anyone with the surname spelled Rodgers. > > Valerie

1811 BANKS, Cathe. Union Buildings District 17 BANKS, Elizabeth Alley 13 BANKS, James Spring Gardens 20 BANKS, James Union Buildings 17 BANKS, John Idle Lane 13 BANKS, John School Street 10 BINKS, George Mealhouse Lane 19 BINKS, Robt. Spring Gardens 20 1821 BANKS, Elizabh. Dukes Alley 8 BANKS, Eshter Spring Gardens 21 BANKS, Geo. Union Buildings 17 BANKS, Jas. Spring Gardens 21 BANKS, Jas. Union Buildings 17 BANKS, John School Street 5 BANKS, Mary Great Moor Street 17 BANKS, Thos. Moor Lane 23 BANKS, Thos. School Street 5 BANKS, Wm. Spring Gardens 21 BINKS, Geo. Mealhouse Lane 19 BINKS, Reubin James Street 4 BINKS, Robt. Commission Street 4 BINKS, Robt. School Street 5 BINKS, Wm. Kay Street 4 1831 BANKS, Henry Union Buildings No.17 6 BANKS, James 15, Lever Street 4 BANKS, John 12, Stanley Street 21 BANKS, Mary Spring Gardens 12 BANKS, Thomas 18, Moor Lane 22 BANKS, Thos. 14, Moor Lane 15 BINKS, Ann 74, Howell Croft 11 BINKS, George 3, James Street 18 BINKS, Robert 19, Lupton Street 21 BINKS, Reuben 16, James Street 18 BINKS, Thos. Folds Street 8 Just the one William but no ralph - this is only Great Bolton Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Lennard [mailto:joycelennard@shaw.ca] Sent: 06 May 2006 01:16 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] 1811/21/31 census Hello Martin, Would you be so kind as to look for the name BANKS in the 1811/21/31 census. First names Ralph and/or William. Thank you Joyce in Victoria

Hi Jacqui and Martin, Thanks very much for your interest and help. I'm sure that Jacqui's suggestion will turn out to be correct and that Auntie Florrie's mother will have been buried at the Bethel Church. I'd overlooked that one, and of course it's further away, off Park Road, although that is effectively a continuation of Market St. Returning to St Bartholomew's, as Martin Briscoe has said, the churchyard functions a Westhoughton Cemetery and is used by several denominations. It has been further extended in the last few years. This can be seen clearly by visiting http://maps.google.co.uk/ entering the post code BL5 3TL when the map appears click Satellite. The new section can be clearly seen to the north of the cemetery. Illustrations of St Bartholomew's as it was originally, as it was following rebuilding but before the 1990 fire, and as it is now can be seen on http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Westhoughton/stbartholomew/stbartholomew.html I suspect that perhaps any discontinuity between the church and the new building probably relates to the very different construction materials, and the difficulty of keying in to the stone blocks. Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton From: <KILCOYELS@aol.com> > There is a small graveyard at the Bethel Independent Church which is just > off Market Street on the corner of Park Road and Leigh Road. Could that > be > the one? > Jacqui > > In a message dated 06/05/2006 00:52:53 GMT Daylight Time, > mbriscoe@zetnet.co.uk writes: > don't know the area but I note that Pevsner says of St Bartholomew's that > "the churchyard has been extended West to form the town cemetery".

Martin Any CROMPTON's listed in the Greater Bolton census. Derek Crompton London South- East

Hello Martin, Thank you so much for looking in the census for me. Joyce

Martin Many thanks for those. Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Briscoe" <mbriscoe@zetnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 12:33 AM Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Censuses 1811,21,31 > > 1811 > DICKINSON, I. Churchgate District 15 > DICKINGSON, Jaine Noble Street 7 > DICKINSON, Tho. Crook Street 9 > > > 1821 > DICKENSON, Jane Bradshawgate 14 > DICKENSON, John Spring Gardens 21 > DICKINSON, Thos. Flash Street 23 > DICKINSON, Thos. Great Moor Street > 17 > Several DIXON > > > > 1831 > DICKINSON, Thos. 36, Crook Street > 16 > DICKASON, Thos. Old Hall Street No.22 10 > DICKINSON, Jno. Folds Street 8 > DICKINSON, Mary Spring Gardens 12 > DICKINSON, Sararh Howell Croft 11 > DICKINSON, Thos. Back Spring Gardens 12 > DICKINSON, William Foundry Square 13 > DICKSON, Will.m. 2, Johnson Street > 7 > DICKSON, Ellen 12, Old Acres 6 > DONKINSON, Jno. 1, Back Cross Street 7 > > > > > > Martin Briscoe > Fort William > M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer Walker [mailto:jenniferwalker@ntlworld.com] > Sent: 05 May 2006 20:13 > To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Censuses 1811,21,31 > > Martin > > While you are looking for "Hunts" please can you see if you can find any > Dickinson/Dickensons. > > Thank you > Jenny > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Sorry Martin, I didn't realise that you had already checked for Rodgers. My computer has been down for a while and I lost a whole heap of messages. Did you happen to check for different spellings..Rogers maybe? Thanks, Sylvia in Sydney. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Briscoe" <mbriscoe@zetnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 9:25 AM Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] census 1831 and 1841 lookup please >I didn't see a James Rodgers in 1811/1821/1831 as I checked earlier > > Martin Briscoe > Fort William > M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Valerie Lirakis [mailto:v.lirakis@ntlworld.com] > Sent: 06 May 2006 00:10 > To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] census 1831 and 1841 lookup please > > Hi Sylvia, > > I've found the following on the 1841 for Lancashire, HO107/0523/F17 > > Morris's Row, Wigan > James Rogers, 40, weaver, born Ireland > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then > subscribe to the other. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Hi Sylvia, In this case, born in the Co. means county. Do you know where their daughter, Mary, was born? If it wasn't in Bolton, then the family were unlikely to have been living in Bolton in 1831 when the census was taken. Bear in mind that in 1841 adults' ages were rounded down to the nearest multiple of 5. Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm and Sylvia" <nsatstanwelltops@smartchat.net.au> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] census 1831 and 1841 lookup please > > Would you have any idea what Co. stands for? As in Mary, 20, born in > > Co. I > know that she was born in Ireland, so do you think that it could be Cork? > or County ? > Sylvia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.4/332 - Release Date: 04/05/2006

Could someone please check the 1831 and 1841 censuses for James Rodgers, b. 1801 Ireland and his wife Mary, born 1799 Ireland? In the 1851 census, they were living at 9 Velvet Walk, off Bradshawgate. Thanks very much, Sylvia Wilcox

I don't know the area but I note that Pevsner says of St Bartholomew's that "the churchyard has been extended West to form the town cemetery". That seems to fit with what is shown on MAGIC if it is the church at SD 652 059 http://www.magic.gov.uk You can see the different layout in the two parts but perhaps not so obvious on the ground. The LFH&HS book on Lancashire Cemeteries lists the town cemetery and St Bartholomew's separately. By the way, I am puzzled about the comment that when the church was rebuilt in the 1990s they made sure that the new buildings did not quite touch the tower which meant that it was exempt from VAT? Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: Bob Thornley [mailto:bob@thornleysystems.co.uk] Sent: 06 May 2006 00:12 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] St Bartholomew's Westhoughton graveyard I'm attending a funeral on Monday of a 101-year-old aunt, with the service held at St Bartholomew's, Westhoughton, but I've been told that the interment will take place not in any part of the churchyard but at a separate cemetery off Market Street, where her mother is buried. I was not aware of any other cemetery near the church, and I thought I knew the area reasonably well. Does anyone know if this other burial ground exists and, if it does, where it is? Thanks for any help, Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton

1811 DICKINSON, I. Churchgate District 15 DICKINGSON, Jaine Noble Street 7 DICKINSON, Tho. Crook Street 9 1821 DICKENSON, Jane Bradshawgate 14 DICKENSON, John Spring Gardens 21 DICKINSON, Thos. Flash Street 23 DICKINSON, Thos. Great Moor Street 17 Several DIXON 1831 DICKINSON, Thos. 36, Crook Street 16 DICKASON, Thos. Old Hall Street No.22 10 DICKINSON, Jno. Folds Street 8 DICKINSON, Mary Spring Gardens 12 DICKINSON, Sararh Howell Croft 11 DICKINSON, Thos. Back Spring Gardens 12 DICKINSON, William Foundry Square 13 DICKSON, Will.m. 2, Johnson Street 7 DICKSON, Ellen 12, Old Acres 6 DONKINSON, Jno. 1, Back Cross Street 7 Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer Walker [mailto:jenniferwalker@ntlworld.com] Sent: 05 May 2006 20:13 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Censuses 1811,21,31 Martin While you are looking for "Hunts" please can you see if you can find any Dickinson/Dickensons. Thank you Jenny

I didn't see a James Rodgers in 1811/1821/1831 as I checked earlier Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: Valerie Lirakis [mailto:v.lirakis@ntlworld.com] Sent: 06 May 2006 00:10 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] census 1831 and 1841 lookup please Hi Sylvia, I've found the following on the 1841 for Lancashire, HO107/0523/F17 Morris's Row, Wigan James Rogers, 40, weaver, born Ireland

Hi Martha, Sorry, I don't have this census on microfiche. Perhaps another lister can help. Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: "KENNETH GOODRICH" <goodrich@775.net> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] old census > Dear Valerie, you wrote me once that Lefley wasn't a common name in > Bolton. In the 1811, etc. census. are there any Lefley's mentioned at > all? thank you so much. martha goodrich > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.4/332 - Release Date: 04/05/2006