Thanks for this, Anne I will need to spend time building my families. Its some 20 years when I did my initial Howarth work and have simply collected data since then. My GreatGtGrandmother, Martha Howarth ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com writes: >Hi Michael, > >In the book of Memorial Inscriptions for St. Anne's, Turton, a lady has >drawn some family trees. There is one for Dionysius Haworth, Cheetham >Arms. > >It shows two children James and Nancy (although) I think there were more. > >James is shown with a son John who married Matty Rostron. Their children >are listed as James born 1801, Peggy born 1802, James born 1803, Mary >born >1805, Nancy born 1808 and Alice born 1809. > >It shows Nancy married William Wood and she succeeded her father at the >Cheetham Arms. Their children are shown as Richard, book-keeper at Peter >Rothwells, Delph, Dionysius d. 1844, Robert, Mary and Ambrose. > >This is the Memorial Inscription, which mentions another Dionysius >Haworth. > >In memory of Henry Haworth who died March 9th, 1875 aged 77 years. Also >Betty wife of Henry Haworth of Firwood Fold, who died 3.1.1865 in the >72nd >year of her age. Also James their son who died 15th May, 1876, aged 40 >years. Also Dionysius their son who died 5th June, 1899 aged 65. Also >Susannah Haworth daughter of the above who died 6th August, 1910 aged 80 >years. > >As far as I know none of the above are related to my Richard Haworth,

Hello Valerie and Listers, with a magnifing glass I notice that my illusive Marshes were married at Folds Road Independent Methodist Chapel, Little Bolton. I have yet to find the christening of any of their children on any bmd site. It wasn't listed on the LRO and I have e-mailed them which will take a while for an answer. Have any of you done "business" with this church? Any ideas where to go from here? Thanks for any help, Val Chadwick USA

Hi Andrea, No area is now classed as Little Bolton, but the long obsolete main division between Great Bolton and Little Bolton, was formed by the course of the River Croal. Beyond that things get open to a bit of interpretation. This map http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/LittleBolton/ParishMap.shtml shows Little Bolton comprising two separate, non-contiguous areas. This map, http://www.tongefamily.info/resources/ancient_parishes.htm which is essentially similar to the one contained in the Bolton library's publications referring to Bolton's ancient parishes, differs slightly and has three non-contiguous areas labelled Little Bolton (L.B.) Other Bolton parish maps, you will find, also differ somewhat. In most cases the definition is pretty academic because most parts of the two main areas are only a relatively short walk apart. I hope that helps, Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton From: <Andreafinney@aol.com> > Sorry to ask - but what area is classed as Little Bolton in the Bolton > Area > ??? > Regards > Andrea

Thank you Anne and K peat for taking an interest and replying to my query. Gracie New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "pneanne" <pne.anne@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Moses Gate Country Park near Farnworth > Hi Gracie, > > I think it will be Farnworth Cemetery. > > Anne in Bolton. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gracie" <geburton@xtra.co.nz> > To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:32 AM > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Moses Gate Country Park near Farnworth > > >> Hi list >> >> I have just been sent three photo's of headstones of HURST graves. One of >> them is my elusive Jesse HURST and second wife Ann. I am over the moon. >> <Smillie> >> >> The person in Manchester does not know the name of the cemetery. They say >> it is at the top end of Moses Gate Country Park near Farnworth. >> >> Can anyone tell me the name of the cemetery please. >> >> Gracie >> New Zealand >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== >> To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then >> subscribe to the other. >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/339 - Release Date: 14/05/2006 >> >> > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then > subscribe to the other. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi Bob It certainley does help - thanks You wouldnt think I was born and bred in Bolton, yet there is so much I have yet to learn about this great little town and its wonderful secrets !! Great help Kind regards Andrea

Hi Jacqui Thanks for the info - This now could tie in with 'my' Harrisons living in Smith Street 1842, which is near to Folds Road area. There is a possibility of the 1841 census of Sarah Harrison in Little Bolton being mine !!! Nice one again and thanks. Regards Andrea

In a message dated 17/05/2006 20:23:01 GMT Daylight Time, Andreafinney@aol.com writes: - but what area is classed as Little Bolton in the Bolton Area Hi Andrea Little Bolton Town Hall was in the Kay Street area of Bolton betwwen St Georges Rd and FoldsRd so I think Little Bolton may have been in that part of the town. Regards Jacqui

Hi All Sorry to ask - but what area is classed as Little Bolton in the Bolton Area ??? Regards Andrea

Hi Valarie Thanks for your look up Valarie - Now that really is very interesting. When Sarah Harrison married Seth Clarkson at Bolton Parish Church they both went to live in Wrightington as and my Gt Grandmother Elizabeth Clarkson was born there. I wonder if he originally came from there and married in the Parish of his wife. ( I wonder what he was doing in the Bolton Area) !!!! I will look into this now more deeply as there are not many 'Seth's' around this area - Thanks ever so much for the trouble. Really appreciated. Can I just point out at this stage that if it wasnt for Eng Lancs listing, and the very helpful people listed on it, I would not have found half of the info I have on my research, - A very big thanks to all. Kind regards Andrea

Dear Valerie, You wrote that Lefley was an unusual name for Bolton. Robert Lefley was married to Amy Evans...They died about 1830 or 1831...Were there any EVans at that time? thank you, Martha goodrich

Dear VAlerie, You wrote that Lefley was an unusual name for Bolton...robert Lefley was married to AMy EVANS...they died about 1831...are there any Evans in that era? thanks Martha goodrich

Hi Donna, Bob did respond to your message by saying that this photographer was based in Putney, London S West. If your photos have a Bolton connection I would be pleased to display them on my website. Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: <DJMFLAG@aol.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 2:17 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Re: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D Digest V06 #152 > Hi Val: You did say you wanted us to send some old pictures, didn't you? > I > have a couple of pictures that I wanted to know more about, but I put it > on > the list and no one answered. I'll try and send them to you. > > Would I be able to find out any information on the photographer T.C. Cosby > EA Putney.S.W. at that web site you posted? > > Thanks a heap Donna Collinge Martens, Muskegon, Michigan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006

Hi Does any one have the following on their tree. THOMAS FLETCHER b abt 1811 JOHN FLETCHER b ABT 1817 JAMES FLETCHER b ABT 1822 All born in Horwich, Bolton. I am wondering if they are brothers and who their parents were. John is my direct line and have traced him back to the 1841 census. Regards Joy W. New Zealand. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/06

>Hi Did Harry Thornley work in finance for Lancashire County Council? I used to work with a Harry Thornley from Bolton at Divisional Health Office in Leigh in the 60's & 70's. Could it be the same Harry? Pamela > > -- >

Hello listers, Many thanks to those listers who have helped me trace many of my family. As a family history novice your advice and help has been invaluable. I am still hoping that someone will recognise Zepporah (or (Zipporah) Lee, born c1896 in Bolton. Parents Jane (nee Kenyon) and Thomas. I now know how she is related (through her mother who was a sister of my paternal grandmother) but can find no more about her. Can anyone help? Mary

Hi Valerie I keep forgetting you asked me what to do about the picture of Churchgate. If its serving no further purpose you can take it off if you like. I'll leave it up to you. Regards Jacqui

Thank you so much for that - Do you have a year as it was a census entry? Many thanks Angie -----Original Message----- From: KILCOYELS@aol.com [mailto:KILCOYELS@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 7:30 p.m. To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON]GREENHALGH Grocer In a message dated 16/05/2006 01:11:12 GMT Daylight Time, spenbrooklee@msn.com writes: who was a grocer in 1888 I don't know if it was his shop or not, but it was listed as his occupation at the time of the death of his father Thomas Greenhalgh. I don't know his wife's name yet but he has two children I understand - Jenny born 1889 and A Hi Angie This may be of some use to you:- 151 Chorley Old Road Bolton. James Greenhalgh 49 Grocer Alice 47 Florrie 23 Dressmaker Mary Ellen 16 Cotton Thread Maker George Peter 8 Scholar. Regards Jacqui ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then subscribe to the other. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hi Andrea, The only Sarah Harrison I have found on the 1841 is as follows: Well Street, Little Bolton (HO107/536/1/F.28) Mary Harrison, 60 Ann, 25, Upholsterer Betsey, 125, Dress Maker Sarah, 15 (no occupation) I haven't been able to find Seth Clarkson, only Seth Clerkson, coal miner, living in Writington, Lancashire (HO107/0526/4/F.13) Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Andreafinney@aol.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:20 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Harrison & Clarkson Bolton > Hi All > > Looking for Clarkson & Harrison Families on Smith Street, Bolton in > > 1841 - > > If anyone can help me out on this one temporarily I would be grateful. > Thanks & Regards > Andrea > > > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/338 - Release Date: 12/05/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006

Hi Angie, Perhaps SKS could look up these birth/bapt. first, then marriage records to find out more information for you! Births: (Both are the children of James/Alice...I couldn't find Flora) Martha Ann Greenhalgh June 1857 Bolton 8c 279 Mary Ellen Greenhalgh June 1867 Bolton 8c 294 Marriage: (Could be either...Both make sense! Children's records should give you Alice's maiden name. Marriage records will give you father's name!) Sept. 1855 James Greenhalgh/Alice Fitton Bolton 8c 277 Dec.1855 James Greenhalgh/Alice Pimbley Bolton 8c 377

Hi Bob and listers, I agree, the likeness is striking. Perhaps we should let other listers see it and get their opinion. To view, go to my website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~boltongenealogy/photogallery5.htm, and scroll down to the bottom. Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Thornley" <bob@thornleysystems.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Valerie's Website - 2V: Harry THORNLEY > Hi Valerie & Derek, > The boy in the photograph on the website looks very much like Harry > THORNLEY, the grandfather of Chrissie Brooks (nee Thornley) who was born > in Bolton but lives in America. > > Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006