Hello Valerie: Thanks so much for posting the Hannah SCHOFIELD photos and information on your web site. I have had many inquiries, but so far.....no match. Recently I have been contacted [on another list] because of a posting I had made 3-1/2 yrs. ago. This contact is the Great Grandaughter of the son of my Great Great Grandfather !! So...as the saying goes "you never know". However, if you need the space on your website, please remove what you need to remove !! If it is possible to leave just one photo on, then I think the photo of Hannah with her parents Mr. and Mrs. R. SCHOFIELD would be the best. Would it be too much trouble for you to add Hannah's address, 142 Sapling Road, Daubhill, Bolton, at the bottom of the description beside her parents ?? What you do for this list is simply amazing; My thanks to you. Barb, Ontario, Canada.
I noted the recent flurry of interest in the LAWSON name and would like to set out what I know, which isn't a good deal. The Lawsons I know seem to be connected to beer selling, and at least by 1800 are in the Bolton area. MARGARET LAWSON married DAVID WINDER 16.7.1803 at St Mary's Lancaster. I think (from IGOR) she was baptised 28.8.1781 at the same place, and her parents were ROBERT and ANN LAWSON. At some point before 1805 the pair came to Bolton, and all 3 of their children were born there. We have DAVID on the 1811 census in the centre of town, and in his will he left everything to her. He died in 1812, and she is later noted as keeping an inn in Bolton. I don't know what happened to her; she is not on any census, but she could have re-married, given her young age when he died. I also have another possible LAWSON in Bolton. In 1851 another Margaret Lawson died, the wife of THOMAS LAWSON, an innkeeper. She was 74, which would make her birth 1777. If THOMAS was a similar age, there could be some family connection between himself and the other MARGARET (sibling?) and he could be part of the reason they came to Bolton. Unfortunately the Bolton licensing records are not early enough to prove or disprove this. Anyone any ideas? Best Wishes, Barbara Winder
Jan Buker wrote Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:25 PM < I know very > little about the Scowcroft's but since it is not a very common name I > would > have to say that any Scowcroft's in the Harwood area would have to be > related in some way.> Hi Jan, I will try and find out who Samuel's g.grandparents were. Valerie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/346 - Release Date: 23/05/2006
Hello everyone, another article from the Bolton Chronicle. Taken from the book, Victorian Years, Bolton 1850-1860. by Raymond Hargreaves. Bolton Chronicle 20th October 1860. "BOY KILLED AT EDGE FOLD COLLIERY IN WESTHOUGHTON. about ten a.m. on Thursday an accident happened at Edgefold coalmine which occasioned the death of Henry, son of William Crompton of Slack Fold, Little Hulton. The deceased was ten and a half years old and employed as a drawer in the pit. he had a strap which was fastened round his back to a tub of coal, which he was guiding down a steep brow. The impetus of the tub overcame his strength and he was dragged by it for more than 200 yds, whereby he received mortal injuries and died in about half an hour. 20th Sept 1851. "SHOCKING OCCURRENCE- SUFFOCATION IN A SEWER. Many inhabitants of this town were thrown into a state of excitement on Saturday evening last by reports to the effect that a boy had entered a sewer in Blackhorse Street out of which he was unable to return, and that his extraction was likely for being a matter of some difficulty-statement which turned out to be well founded. The boy who was 14 years of age, was sent into the sewer owing to its requiring to be cleaned, and he was there confined from about five o' clock on Saturday afternoon, till after eleven in the forenoon of Sunday, when after various means had been employed to release him from his perilous position, he was taken out dead. 15 June 1850 ACCIDENT BY MACHINERY. on Tuesday last, about 12 o clock,an accident of a serious nature took place at the mill of Messrs Platt and Sutcliff, Chew Moor, Lostock. Nancy Coe, a girl age 13 years, whilst sweeping a "wheelgate" was caught by an upright shaft, the consequence of which was that she had her clothes torn from her body, and her arm taken off a little below the elbow. She was soon afterwards attended by Mr A Robinson and Mr Garstang, Surgeons, when amputation was performed. The poor girl was also dreadfully bruised in many parts of her body. She at present lies in a very precarious state. <end> As they say we don't know we are born! Regards Maureen.
A month or so ago, at the Rotorua LDS Family History Centre, I ordered films of burial registers for Heaton and Tonge cemeteries for the period covering 1910-11, in the hope to find burials of Pretoria Pit disaster victims. The LDS do not hold film stocks in NZ, so they have to be sent from Australia. Nothing has arrived yet, so today I checked out and was told the films are on extended loan till July to someone in OZ. It occurs to me that the person may be a member of this list, so you Ozzies, time to fess up and tell me if you are the one. And if you are - can we do a look-up deal please? A forlorn hope, but with winter drawing in, my indoor hours are accumulating! Cheers Peter Wood
Hello Maxine, "Victorian Years Bolton 1850-1860" by Raymond Hargreaves. Ross Anderson Publications. yes that is the name of the book, it has 142 pages and the contents are all taken from articles and features from the Bolton Papers of the time, it covers many different things but nearly all about Bolton and its people, lots of very interesting and heartbreaking stories. Regards Maureen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maxine Capezza" <mcapezza@earthlink.net> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:56 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Sanitary Conditions of Bolton 1853 To "Maureen Marsh" <maureen@heymar.fsnet.co.uk> Thanks for the note regarding the book by Raymond Hargreaves. I did enjoy it. Was that the name of the book or the chapter? VICTORIAN YEARS, > BOLTON 1850-1860. > >Bolton Chronicle 11 June 1853 >Thanks again. Maxine ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429
Hi Pete and Anne, I checked James Holme 1839 and as expected it turned out to be a member submission. This is revealed by the 'message': "Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church." It's advisable to regard these entries with a degree of suspicion, because they are frequently based on fairly shaky research and sometimes wishful thinking. You may well find this if you check the other entries that fall outside the date ranges that Anne suggested, these will also be member submissions. I hope that helps. Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton From: "pneanne" <pne.anne@ntlworld.com> > Hi Pete, > My Handlist was printed in October, 1997, so it is probably out of date, > and more years have been added to the IGI. I will enquire about this when > I go to the library. > Anne in Bolton. > From: "Pete Hulme" <phulme@glasshouse.com> <snip> Looking at your list, it says St Peter's baptisms are listed up to 1829, >> but there are definitely later ones in the IGI, including the 1830 one >> and an 1839 James Holme. I assume this means that there are still records >> going into the IGI. <snip>
Hi Pete, My Handlist was printed in October, 1997, so it is probably out of date, and more years have been added to the IGI. I will enquire about this when I go to the library. Anne in Bolton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Hulme" <phulme@glasshouse.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] CHURCHES ON THE IGI > Hi Anne, this certainly answers the question, but doesn't help solve the > riddle! > > If all these churches are in the IGI, and there is no James Hulme in the > IGI in the 1830's other than the 31/01/1830 then (barring a transcription > error) I must be missing something! > > Looking at your list, it says St Peter's baptisms are listed up to 1829, > but there are definitely later ones in the IGI, including the 1830 one and > an 1839 James Holme. I assume this means that there are still records > going into the IGI. > > If James wasn't baptised in any of the Bolton Churches, but all of his > census entries etc. agree that he was born in Bolton (Halliwell) then > either he was baptised in another church or he was born outside the area > and moved there when very young? Otherwise I suppose it's possible that he > wasn't baptised (don't know how likely that is) or the record is missing > somewhere from a parish record or transcript. > > Given that he was married in a catholic church, I'm going to ask a > question on the list about the probability that he was a catholic. I've no > reason to suspect he was, but that's only because my father isn't and he > was James' great grandson. If he was catholic, I'll try to find out where > he might have been baptised and where the records now are. > > The search, as they say, goes on!! > > Cheers, Pete > > ________________________________ > > From: pneanne [mailto:pne.anne@ntlworld.com] > Sent: Tue 23/05/2006 20:06 > To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] CHURCHES ON THE IGI > > > > Hi Pete, > > This is from the Bolton Archives handbook. These are the churches in > Bolton, which appear on the IGI. Other churches in Farnworth, Blackrod, > Horwich, Turton, Westhoughton, Ringley, Little Hulton and Little Lever > are > also on the IGI. > > Parish Church of St. Peter, Great Bolton. > > IGI. Baptisms 1573-1829 > Marriages 1573-1837 > > > All Saints, Little Bolton > > IGI. Baptisms 1797-1872 > > > St. George, Little Bolton > > IGI. Baptisms 1796-1856 > > > Parish Church of St. Mary, Deane > > IGI Baptisms 1604-1854 > Marriages 1604-1812 > > Hope this helps, > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then > subscribe to the other. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/345 - Release Date: 22/05/2006 > >
Hi List, I've been searching for a disappearing relative in the 19th century in Bolton, all the census records say he was born in Bolton (Halliwell) in the mid 1830's. People on the list have been giving me enormous help (thanks again, Anne) but we seem to be drawing a blank at the moment. I'm trying to come up with a new angle of attack and have an idea, but I don't know how likely my idea is and I was hoping someone on the list might know, please. I've discovered that the missing relative (James Hulme) who married Elizabeth Kay on 2nd August 1862 was married in a catholic church (St. Maries (sic) Chapel) and I'm wondering how likely it is that he was a catholic and whether that would account for why I can't find his birth or his marriage, or those of his child in the IGI, even though I know the dates of both marriages and the child's birth? Specific questions are;- If a couple are married in a catholic church, how likely is it that both are catholic, or that only the wife was? (I've no idea what the rules are now or were then) If James was born in Halliwell somewhen in the 1830's and was a catholic, where would he have been baptised? (It can't be St Mary's (Maries) as that was only built in 1847.) Where would catholic records for Bolton for this period be held? Ideally, does anyone know if copies or transcripts are available on CD or microfiche, as I'm in the south of England? I'm sorry if these are stupid questions, but I know nothing about this period either what Bolton was like then or what the religious politics were. I'm very keen to trace this person, as he's my direct ancestor, and I'm hoping that the catholic marriage might answer some of the nagging questions as to why I can't find his birth. Thanks for any suggestions. Pete Hulme
Hi Tina, There was a discussion on "Fitton houses" in January 2004. Here is the link. Scroll half way down or use your>edit>find. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ENG-LAN-BOLTON/2004-01 Gracie New Zealand Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:19 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Fitton Houses > Hi > > I was wondering if anyone knows any thing about the Fitton Houses in Lever > Street. > > They keep cropping up in my family. > > Thanks > > Tina > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >
Hi Anne, this certainly answers the question, but doesn't help solve the riddle! If all these churches are in the IGI, and there is no James Hulme in the IGI in the 1830's other than the 31/01/1830 then (barring a transcription error) I must be missing something! Looking at your list, it says St Peter's baptisms are listed up to 1829, but there are definitely later ones in the IGI, including the 1830 one and an 1839 James Holme. I assume this means that there are still records going into the IGI. If James wasn't baptised in any of the Bolton Churches, but all of his census entries etc. agree that he was born in Bolton (Halliwell) then either he was baptised in another church or he was born outside the area and moved there when very young? Otherwise I suppose it's possible that he wasn't baptised (don't know how likely that is) or the record is missing somewhere from a parish record or transcript. Given that he was married in a catholic church, I'm going to ask a question on the list about the probability that he was a catholic. I've no reason to suspect he was, but that's only because my father isn't and he was James' great grandson. If he was catholic, I'll try to find out where he might have been baptised and where the records now are. The search, as they say, goes on!! Cheers, Pete ________________________________ From: pneanne [mailto:pne.anne@ntlworld.com] Sent: Tue 23/05/2006 20:06 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] CHURCHES ON THE IGI Hi Pete, This is from the Bolton Archives handbook. These are the churches in Bolton, which appear on the IGI. Other churches in Farnworth, Blackrod, Horwich, Turton, Westhoughton, Ringley, Little Hulton and Little Lever are also on the IGI. Parish Church of St. Peter, Great Bolton. IGI. Baptisms 1573-1829 Marriages 1573-1837 All Saints, Little Bolton IGI. Baptisms 1797-1872 St. George, Little Bolton IGI. Baptisms 1796-1856 Parish Church of St. Mary, Deane IGI Baptisms 1604-1854 Marriages 1604-1812 Hope this helps,
I thought this may be of interest to people who have never been to Bolton and not seen the Market Cross. There are bronze shields around the base of the cross showing a number of principal incidents in Bolton's History. 1253 A.D. Bolton a Free Borough by Charter 1256 Charter for Market by Henry 111 to Bodelton 1337 Flemish clothiers settled. 1513 'Lusty Lads from Bolton-i'th'Moors' (Ballad of Battle of Flodden Field.) 1540 'Bolton-upon-Moor standeth mostly by cottons and coarse yards' (Leland) 1623 Lectureship founded for sermons at Cross 1631 Population 500 1641 Grammar School founded 1643-4 During Civil War Bolton besieged thrice and taken once with much slaughter. 1651 James, seventh earl of Derby beheaded near this spot 1661 'Bowlton hath a market on Mondays which is very good for clothing and provisions and is a place of great trade for fustians' (Blome's Brittania') 1753 Crompton, Inventor of the Spinning Mule, foundation of modern Cotton Industry, Born in Bolton 1760 Arkwrright, founder of the Cotton Factory system, kept a barber's Shop in Bolton. 1763 Cotton Quiltings & muslins first made in Bolton 1791 Canal to Bolton opened 1828 First Railway from Bolton opened 1832 First Parliamentary election, Population 41,195 1838 Charter of Incorporation 1842 Parliamentary enquiry about extreme distress in the town 1852 Adoption of Free Libraries Act 1861 Population 70,396 1872 First Extension of Bolton 1877 Further extension, Population 106,214 1898 Bolton again extended 1901 Population 168,215 Anne in Bolton.
Hi Pete, This is from the Bolton Archives handbook. These are the churches in Bolton, which appear on the IGI. Other churches in Farnworth, Blackrod, Horwich, Turton, Westhoughton, Ringley, Little Hulton and Little Lever are also on the IGI. Parish Church of St. Peter, Great Bolton. IGI. Baptisms 1573-1829 Marriages 1573-1837 All Saints, Little Bolton IGI. Baptisms 1797-1872 St. George, Little Bolton IGI. Baptisms 1796-1856 Parish Church of St. Mary, Deane IGI Baptisms 1604-1854 Marriages 1604-1812 Hope this helps, Anne in Bolton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Hulme" <phulme@glasshouse.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 7:12 PM Subject: re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] James Hulme c. 1835 > Thanks, Anne. I had seen the James born in 1830 in the IGI, actually he's > the ONLY James Hulme shown for Bolton anywhere in the 1830's but he's a > little earlier than I was looking for. He might fit with the James Hulme > who lived with George and Mary Brindle though? > > I have noticed that most of the records in IGI for Bolton are St Peters, I > wonder if anyone knows what records were transcribed into IGI and whether > it includes other churches in Bolton? I can't find James' wedding there, > nor the baptism of his son, Thomas, even though I know the exact date of > the marriage and the birth date for Thomas. > > Come to that, I don't know what other churches existed in Bolton at this > time. St Peters was always called the "parish church" AFAIK, I didn't even > know it WAS St Peter's until I started researching my family history. I > assume this means it was the only (or at least the primary) church for > Bolton in earlier times? > > Cheers, Pete > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Pete, > > I will check All Saints' Church baptisms from 1832 onwards. They will not > have as many as St. Peter's, Bolton. > > I did find a James Hulme on the IGI c. 31.1.1830 at Bolton le Moors, > mother > Anne. Although this is a bit early, I will check it to see if it says 'of > Halliwell'. > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > Bolton Metro - bolton@bolton.gov.uk > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/345 - Release Date: 22/05/2006 > >
Jan Buker writes <If anyone has information on this family and collateral lines it would be > greatly appreciated. I believe there were Scowcrofts still in Harwood in > the 1960's and Booth's around the 1920's.> > Hi Jan, Turton Local History published a book last year entitled Samuel Scowcroft, A Bradshaw Man 1838-1914, who was a diarist. This is what it says: Quote ... there have been many Scowcrofts in Bradshaw and Harwood over the centuries, a number of them being notable figures in local society, including farmers, publicans, colliery owners and managers. Samuel was descended from John Scowcroft, his grandfather, who was born at Ruins, Harwood on the 21st December 1777 and baptized at Bolton Parish Church on the 15th February 1778. He was described as a weaver when he married Martha Haslam on the 20th July 1800 at Bolton Parish Church. They had eleven children and lived as tenant farmers at Springside Farm, Harwood in 1841, later moving to Scowcroft Houses, Ruins Lane, Harwood in 1851. By 1861 they lived at Middle of the Moor Harwood. John was a trustee of Harwood Wesleyan School when teetotalism came to Harwood on the 29th May 1835. The first meeting of the Harwood Temperance Society was held at Harwood Wesleyan School and John was the first person to sign the pledge, becoming a founder member of the Society. In 1837 John was the first elected Guardian of the Poor for Bradshaw Township. He was a very strict and religious person all his life and when he appeared in the Harwood Wesleyan School and thumped his stick on the floor there was an immediate silence and complete order. John's eldest son Samuel was the father of Samuel the diarist. Samuel married Jane Bolton of Harwood at Bolton Parish Church on the 18th July 1817 when they were 20 and 17 respectively. Samuel and Jane had six children, John born 1818, Sophia 1822, Richard 1827, Sarah 1831, Martha 1834 who died as a young child, and Samuel Junior born 15th September 1838. The youngest son became the author of the diaries which he kept for nearly 50 years. unquote Could it be that your Sarah was a member of this family? Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Buker" <jcbuker@bukerfamily.org> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:04 PM Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] BOOTH - FIELDING - ORRELL > > Hi Annie > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 19/05/2006
Thanks, Anne. I had seen the James born in 1830 in the IGI, actually he's the ONLY James Hulme shown for Bolton anywhere in the 1830's but he's a little earlier than I was looking for. He might fit with the James Hulme who lived with George and Mary Brindle though? I have noticed that most of the records in IGI for Bolton are St Peters, I wonder if anyone knows what records were transcribed into IGI and whether it includes other churches in Bolton? I can't find James' wedding there, nor the baptism of his son, Thomas, even though I know the exact date of the marriage and the birth date for Thomas. Come to that, I don't know what other churches existed in Bolton at this time. St Peters was always called the "parish church" AFAIK, I didn't even know it WAS St Peter's until I started researching my family history. I assume this means it was the only (or at least the primary) church for Bolton in earlier times? Cheers, Pete ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Pete, I will check All Saints' Church baptisms from 1832 onwards. They will not have as many as St. Peter's, Bolton. I did find a James Hulme on the IGI c. 31.1.1830 at Bolton le Moors, mother Anne. Although this is a bit early, I will check it to see if it says 'of Halliwell'.
Hi Gracie, Thanks for your help. I wonder if there are any photos of them available somewhere. Cheers Tina
Thank you very much Leisha, I will be checking out that website. No, I wasn't aware of any alternate spelling so I really appreciate you pointing that out to me. Jan Castle Rock, Washington -----Original Message----- From: Leisha Johnson-Harvey [mailto:spenbrooklee@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:20 PM To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] BOOTH - FIELDING - ORRELL Hi Jan, I'm sure you know already, but just in case, Scowcroft is also known by the variant Scholcroft as well as others. I have a Sarah Scholcroft who married Abraham Leach. My families in the area moved from farm to farm and all over the place, from Holcombe to Shuttleworth to Quarlton to Harwood and Affetside. They always rented at that point though. When they owned, they finally settled. If your family were born in Harwood Lea, then you should get the new book published by Turton Local History Society - Harwood, The Early Years, as well as an earlier publication on Harwood Hill Farms and Riding Gate, though I don't see either listed on their website. You'll need to figure out the monetary exchange though (assume you're in the US) unless TLHS has changed their policy regarding payment. Here's the website for further information: http://northturton.com/edgworth/history_society.html<http://northturton.com/ edgworth/history_society.html> Hope that helps, Leisha Central Penna ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Buker<mailto:jcbuker@bukerfamily.org> To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 4:04 PM Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] BOOTH - FIELDING - ORRELL Hi Annie I am very interested in your Booth's. I am trying to get my husband's Booth line further back and the ancestor we have with definitive information is John Booth, b. 11 Dec 1742 in Edgeworth, Gloucestershire, England, d. Bet. 1764 - 1826 in England m. 17 Apr 1759, Lancashire, England Alice Viccars, b. Bet. 1715 - 1742, Bolton le Moors Parish, Lancashire, England, d. Bet. 1764 - 1832 in England Children: Thomas Richard Alice Betty Margaret John S., b. 1773, Bolton le Moors Parish, Lancashire, England, d. 09 Sep 1838, Lee County, Iowa (our line) m. 04 Jan 1802, Bolton, Lancashire, England Sarah Scowcroft, b. 12 Nov 1782, Lancashire, England, d. 02 Sep 1847, Farmington, Van Buren, Iowa Children: Mary, John, Alice I, Sarah I, Sarah II, Richard, Elizabeth, Luke, Robert, Alice II, Esquire (all born in Harwood Lea, Bolton, Lancashire, England) If anyone has information on this family and collateral lines it would be greatly appreciated. I believe there were Scowcrofts still in Harwood in the 1960's and Booth's around the 1920's. Thank you, Jan Buker Castle Rock, Washington, USA -----Original Message----- From: Rosie [mailto:rosie1@cscoms.com] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:47 AM To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] BOOTH - FIELDING - ORRELL Hello BOOTH Charles (aged 57yrs in 1841 Preston) BOOTH Alice nee FIELDING (aged 50 yrs in 1841 Preston) Married : 1807 St Peter's Church, Bolton-Le-Moors. Witnesses: ORRELL James ORRELL William. BOOTH William (aged 60 yrs in 1841 Preston) BOOTH Alice (aged 55 yrs in 1841 Preston) nee RAWLINSON. Married : 1810 Preston Witnesses : BOOTH Charles RAWLINSON James. BOOTH James b. 1807 Turton (s.o. Charles BOOTH). BOOTH Mary formerly ROTHWELL nee RAWLINSON - born 1796 Preston. Married : 1830 at Preston. Witnesses : BOOTH William. RAWLINSON Ellen. I'm trying to tie together Charles & William BOOTH - although the Bolton connection might be through Alice FIELDING. If anyone could help, I'd be very grateful. 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Hi Jan, I'm sure you know already, but just in case, Scowcroft is also known by the variant Scholcroft as well as others. I have a Sarah Scholcroft who married Abraham Leach. My families in the area moved from farm to farm and all over the place, from Holcombe to Shuttleworth to Quarlton to Harwood and Affetside. They always rented at that point though. When they owned, they finally settled. If your family were born in Harwood Lea, then you should get the new book published by Turton Local History Society - Harwood, The Early Years, as well as an earlier publication on Harwood Hill Farms and Riding Gate, though I don't see either listed on their website. You'll need to figure out the monetary exchange though (assume you're in the US) unless TLHS has changed their policy regarding payment. Here's the website for further information: http://northturton.com/edgworth/history_society.html<http://northturton.com/edgworth/history_society.html> Hope that helps, Leisha Central Penna ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Buker<mailto:jcbuker@bukerfamily.org> To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 4:04 PM Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] BOOTH - FIELDING - ORRELL Hi Annie I am very interested in your Booth's. I am trying to get my husband's Booth line further back and the ancestor we have with definitive information is John Booth, b. 11 Dec 1742 in Edgeworth, Gloucestershire, England, d. Bet. 1764 - 1826 in England m. 17 Apr 1759, Lancashire, England Alice Viccars, b. Bet. 1715 - 1742, Bolton le Moors Parish, Lancashire, England, d. Bet. 1764 - 1832 in England Children: Thomas Richard Alice Betty Margaret John S., b. 1773, Bolton le Moors Parish, Lancashire, England, d. 09 Sep 1838, Lee County, Iowa (our line) m. 04 Jan 1802, Bolton, Lancashire, England Sarah Scowcroft, b. 12 Nov 1782, Lancashire, England, d. 02 Sep 1847, Farmington, Van Buren, Iowa Children: Mary, John, Alice I, Sarah I, Sarah II, Richard, Elizabeth, Luke, Robert, Alice II, Esquire (all born in Harwood Lea, Bolton, Lancashire, England) If anyone has information on this family and collateral lines it would be greatly appreciated. I believe there were Scowcrofts still in Harwood in the 1960's and Booth's around the 1920's. Thank you, Jan Buker Castle Rock, Washington, USA -----Original Message----- From: Rosie [mailto:rosie1@cscoms.com] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:47 AM To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] BOOTH - FIELDING - ORRELL Hello BOOTH Charles (aged 57yrs in 1841 Preston) BOOTH Alice nee FIELDING (aged 50 yrs in 1841 Preston) Married : 1807 St Peter's Church, Bolton-Le-Moors. Witnesses: ORRELL James ORRELL William. BOOTH William (aged 60 yrs in 1841 Preston) BOOTH Alice (aged 55 yrs in 1841 Preston) nee RAWLINSON. Married : 1810 Preston Witnesses : BOOTH Charles RAWLINSON James. BOOTH James b. 1807 Turton (s.o. Charles BOOTH). BOOTH Mary formerly ROTHWELL nee RAWLINSON - born 1796 Preston. Married : 1830 at Preston. Witnesses : BOOTH William. RAWLINSON Ellen. I'm trying to tie together Charles & William BOOTH - although the Bolton connection might be through Alice FIELDING. If anyone could help, I'd be very grateful. Kind regards Annie (Thailand) ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== Bolton Metro - bolton@bolton.gov.uk<mailto:bolton@bolton.gov.uk> ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx> ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com> (if in mail mode) or ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com> (if in digest mode.) ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx>
Hi Valerie, First I want to thank you for that wonderful information. I know very little about the Scowcroft's but since it is not a very common name I would have to say that any Scowcroft's in the Harwood area would have to be related in some way. I do know that my Sarah Scowcroft's parents were Richard Scowcroft and Sarah Hamer but I have no other information on them. I do not know who Sarah's siblings were and would like to learn that information and any other information available. John & Sarah Scowcroft Booth left England and this is the information passed down: "It was said that John S. Booth was a manufacturer in his native country, of England. He brought the family to America, leaving at 4:00 Thursday 9 of Sept.1830 and settled in Westchester county, N. Y" Thank you again, Jan Buker -----Original Message----- From: Valerie Lirakis [mailto:v.lirakis@ntlworld.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:54 AM To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] BOOTH - FIELDING - ORRELL Jan Buker writes <If anyone has information on this family and collateral lines it would be > greatly appreciated. I believe there were Scowcrofts still in Harwood in > the 1960's and Booth's around the 1920's.> > Hi Jan, Turton Local History published a book last year entitled Samuel Scowcroft, A Bradshaw Man 1838-1914, who was a diarist. This is what it says: Quote ... there have been many Scowcrofts in Bradshaw and Harwood over the centuries, a number of them being notable figures in local society, including farmers, publicans, colliery owners and managers. Samuel was descended from John Scowcroft, his grandfather, who was born at Ruins, Harwood on the 21st December 1777 and baptized at Bolton Parish Church on the 15th February 1778. He was described as a weaver when he married Martha Haslam on the 20th July 1800 at Bolton Parish Church. They had eleven children and lived as tenant farmers at Springside Farm, Harwood in 1841, later moving to Scowcroft Houses, Ruins Lane, Harwood in 1851. By 1861 they lived at Middle of the Moor Harwood. John was a trustee of Harwood Wesleyan School when teetotalism came to Harwood on the 29th May 1835. The first meeting of the Harwood Temperance Society was held at Harwood Wesleyan School and John was the first person to sign the pledge, becoming a founder member of the Society. In 1837 John was the first elected Guardian of the Poor for Bradshaw Township. He was a very strict and religious person all his life and when he appeared in the Harwood Wesleyan School and thumped his stick on the floor there was an immediate silence and complete order. John's eldest son Samuel was the father of Samuel the diarist. Samuel married Jane Bolton of Harwood at Bolton Parish Church on the 18th July 1817 when they were 20 and 17 respectively. Samuel and Jane had six children, John born 1818, Sophia 1822, Richard 1827, Sarah 1831, Martha 1834 who died as a young child, and Samuel Junior born 15th September 1838. The youngest son became the author of the diaries which he kept for nearly 50 years. unquote Could it be that your Sarah was a member of this family? Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Buker" <jcbuker@bukerfamily.org> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:04 PM Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] BOOTH - FIELDING - ORRELL > > Hi Annie > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 19/05/2006 ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx
Hello Jan Thank you for your reply. I'll certainly keep your John in mind if I get any further back with Charles. BTW - Ancestry shows 3 submitted trees with John. Father = Richard : Mother = Ann Best wishes Annie From: "Jan Buker" <jcbuker@bukerfamily.org> I am very interested in your Booth's. I am trying to get my husband's Booth > line further back and the ancestor we have with definitive information is > > John Booth, b. 11 Dec 1742 in Edgeworth, Gloucestershire, England, d. Bet. > 1764 - 1826 in England > m. 17 Apr 1759, Lancashire, England > Alice Viccars, b. Bet. 1715 - 1742, Bolton le Moors Parish, Lancashire, > England, d. Bet. 1764 - 1832 in England <snip>