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    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Re:Dent Registers
    2. pneanne
    3. Hi Pete, When I met Margaret in Bolton Archives recently, a man overheard us talking about Dent. He said that a lot of people came to Bolton from Dent because of the Quaker connection. I think my husband's ancestor Robert Burrow(s) may have come to Bolton from Dent, but as far as I know they were not Quakers. Anne in Bolton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Hulme" <phulme@glasshouse.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Re:Dent Registers > Just a thought, does anyone know why there was so much migration > specifically from Dent at this time? My ancestor Joseph Middleton made the > move and I've always assumed that it was just one of those things, > especially as he was a coachman and so relatively mobile. He did however > go back and marry Nancy Stackhouse from Thornton in Lonsdale and bring her > back to Bolton (Turton) > > From what I can gather Dent isn't that big a place and we now have at > least three (apparently unconnected) people or families making the Dent to > Bolton move. I know Bolton was growing massively at this time with > industrialisation, but it seems a big coincidence to have so many people > moving from Dent, which is hardly next door. Does anyone know if there's a > connection I'm missing? > > Cheers, Pete > > ________________________________ > > From: Colin & Margaret [mailto:marlin.2817@ntlworld.com] > Sent: Sat 27/05/2006 12:02 > To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Re:Dent Registers > > > > Hi Marian, A request please for any information from the Dent Registers > re:- A marriage between William Burrow and Alice????. There is a > son > of the marriage name of William born 31 March 1864 in Laineing Dent, Cert. > states mother Alice, no mention of Father. When William (son) > marries > Mary Elizabeth Edwards in Bolton 14 April 1889. The cert. states Father > William (deceased) William came from Dent to Bolton during the > period > 1882-- 1886 to join the police force. Any info wouild be much > appreciated. > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > For Family/Local History covering Bolton, Horwich, Farnworth, Westhoughton > and Turton. Please keep the messages coming. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.2/349 - Release Date: 26/05/2006 > >

    05/27/2006 09:38:02
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] New Member
    2. Margaret Horrocks
    3. The line I am following originated in Birmingham, but they did have some children in Manchester before coming to Horwich, but no Emily - sorry - Margaret----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin & Margaret" <marlin.2817@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] New Member > Hi, my name is Margaret Calderbank ( nee Heap ) I have an Abraham Hart > Heap that married Emily Lewis in 1906 the Lewis family originated from > Manchester any connection ? regards. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret Horrocks" <mags70@tesco.net> > To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:38 AM > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] New Member > > >> Valerie - Sorry I have not replied sooner, I have been away. >> Here are my Lewis family: >> My grandfather Cornelius John m. Ethel Peak in 1905 >> His father was Alfred Benjamin m. Ellen Pearmain in 1873 >> They had 12 children >> His father was James m. Carol Russell in 1843 >> They had 9 children >> I have not proved the following: >> His father was James m. Hannah ........ in 1794 >> They had two sons, up to now! >> The other names I am researching are - Horrocks, Ashton, Draper, Graham >> and Peak >> >> If you want more details re Lewis or any other name, please let me know. >> Margaret >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== >> Bolton Metro - bolton@bolton.gov.uk >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > Bolton Metro - bolton@bolton.gov.uk > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

    05/27/2006 09:24:07
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] New Member
    2. Colin & Margaret
    3. Hi, my name is Margaret Calderbank ( nee Heap ) I have an Abraham Hart Heap that married Emily Lewis in 1906 the Lewis family originated from Manchester any connection ? regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Horrocks" <mags70@tesco.net> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:38 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] New Member > Valerie - Sorry I have not replied sooner, I have been away. > Here are my Lewis family: > My grandfather Cornelius John m. Ethel Peak in 1905 > His father was Alfred Benjamin m. Ellen Pearmain in 1873 > They had 12 children > His father was James m. Carol Russell in 1843 > They had 9 children > I have not proved the following: > His father was James m. Hannah ........ in 1794 > They had two sons, up to now! > The other names I am researching are - Horrocks, Ashton, Draper, Graham > and Peak > > If you want more details re Lewis or any other name, please let me know. > Margaret > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > Bolton Metro - bolton@bolton.gov.uk > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

    05/27/2006 08:51:51
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Re:Dent Registers
    2. Colin & Margaret
    3. Back on the Dent trail.... our research in the name of Burrow have produced 1] William Burrow married Mary Middleton 30.6.1838 and their son Thomas married Barbara Middleton in Sept 1867 any connection ? probably travelled by coach ! regards C & M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Hulme" <phulme@glasshouse.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Re:Dent Registers > Just a thought, does anyone know why there was so much migration > specifically from Dent at this time? My ancestor Joseph Middleton made the > move and I've always assumed that it was just one of those things, > especially as he was a coachman and so relatively mobile. He did however > go back and marry Nancy Stackhouse from Thornton in Lonsdale and bring her > back to Bolton (Turton) > > From what I can gather Dent isn't that big a place and we now have at > least three (apparently unconnected) people or families making the Dent to > Bolton move. I know Bolton was growing massively at this time with > industrialisation, but it seems a big coincidence to have so many people > moving from Dent, which is hardly next door. Does anyone know if there's a > connection I'm missing? > > Cheers, Pete > > ________________________________ > > From: Colin & Margaret [mailto:marlin.2817@ntlworld.com] > Sent: Sat 27/05/2006 12:02 > To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Re:Dent Registers > > > > Hi Marian, A request please for any information from the Dent Registers > re:- A marriage between William Burrow and Alice????. There is a > son > of the marriage name of William born 31 March 1864 in Laineing Dent, Cert. > states mother Alice, no mention of Father. When William (son) > marries > Mary Elizabeth Edwards in Bolton 14 April 1889. The cert. states Father > William (deceased) William came from Dent to Bolton during the > period > 1882-- 1886 to join the police force. Any info wouild be much > appreciated. > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > For Family/Local History covering Bolton, Horwich, Farnworth, Westhoughton > and Turton. Please keep the messages coming. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

    05/27/2006 08:48:51
    1. Re: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D Digest V06 #164
    2. Keith Rowe
    3. Unsubscribe please holidays. ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 1:36 AM Subject: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D Digest V06 #164 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.2/349 - Release Date: 5/26/2006

    05/27/2006 07:38:42
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Re:Dent Registers
    2. Pete Hulme
    3. Just a thought, does anyone know why there was so much migration specifically from Dent at this time? My ancestor Joseph Middleton made the move and I've always assumed that it was just one of those things, especially as he was a coachman and so relatively mobile. He did however go back and marry Nancy Stackhouse from Thornton in Lonsdale and bring her back to Bolton (Turton) From what I can gather Dent isn't that big a place and we now have at least three (apparently unconnected) people or families making the Dent to Bolton move. I know Bolton was growing massively at this time with industrialisation, but it seems a big coincidence to have so many people moving from Dent, which is hardly next door. Does anyone know if there's a connection I'm missing? Cheers, Pete ________________________________ From: Colin & Margaret [mailto:marlin.2817@ntlworld.com] Sent: Sat 27/05/2006 12:02 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Re:Dent Registers Hi Marian, A request please for any information from the Dent Registers re:- A marriage between William Burrow and Alice????. There is a son of the marriage name of William born 31 March 1864 in Laineing Dent, Cert. states mother Alice, no mention of Father. When William (son) marries Mary Elizabeth Edwards in Bolton 14 April 1889. The cert. states Father William (deceased) William came from Dent to Bolton during the period 1882-- 1886 to join the police force. Any info wouild be much appreciated.

    05/27/2006 06:34:40
    1. HORROCKS.
    2. JoyWarner
    3. Good morning All, Is winter and time to get back to Geneology again. Am looking for ELIZA FLETCHER husband JOHN HORROCKS. 1881 cencus living at 25 Cooper St, Little Bolton. I remember someone on the list looking for Horrocks but did not know I had a connection to them till now. Regards and Thank you Joy Warner, New Zealand -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.2/349 - Release Date: 26/05/06

    05/27/2006 06:03:53
    1. Re:Dent Registers
    2. Colin & Margaret
    3. Hi Marian, A request please for any information from the Dent Registers re:- A marriage between William Burrow and Alice????. There is a son of the marriage name of William born 31 March 1864 in Laineing Dent, Cert. states mother Alice, no mention of Father. When William (son) marries Mary Elizabeth Edwards in Bolton 14 April 1889. The cert. states Father William (deceased) William came from Dent to Bolton during the period 1882-- 1886 to join the police force. Any info wouild be much appreciated. ----- Original Message ----- From: <youngm@iimetro.com.au> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:05 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] BAINES-BANTON > Hi Bob > > Just out of interest, I have the Dent parish registers, and there are the > following entries: > > Edmund, son of Elizabeth and John Baines of Dikehall. Baptised on August > 29 > 1788. > > Edmund Baines, Bach. and Jane Bentham, Spin. BOTP. Married by Banns on > April 18 > 1808 by James Dawson. Witnesses: Thomas Metcalf, James Parker. > > John Baines and Elizabeth Hodgson, BOTP. Married by Banns on June 24 1777 > by R > Sedgwick. Witnesses: Margaret Alderson, James Hodgson. [Edmund Baines > parents marriage]. > > Marian > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using iiMetro WebMail > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

    05/27/2006 06:02:54
    1. FLETCHERS CONFECTIONERY
    2. JoyWarner
    3. Hello All, Does one of the kind people on the list have any information about FLETCHERS CONFECTIONERY AND BAKERY. I have an ELLEN FLETCHER living at 2 Clifton Lane, Lytham. in 1891. Any help would be appreciated. Many Thanks Joy Warner, New Zealand. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.2/349 - Release Date: 26/05/06

    05/27/2006 05:58:04
    1. Horrocks
    2. margaret dodge
    3. I am looking for Horrocks, and do not have info on them after 1839. John and Jonathan are some names in my line, so it could be we are talking about the same line. Do you have any info prior to 1881? Margaret in US

    05/27/2006 05:42:58
    1. New Member
    2. Margaret Horrocks
    3. Valerie - Sorry I have not replied sooner, I have been away. Here are my Lewis family: My grandfather Cornelius John m. Ethel Peak in 1905 His father was Alfred Benjamin m. Ellen Pearmain in 1873 They had 12 children His father was James m. Carol Russell in 1843 They had 9 children I have not proved the following: His father was James m. Hannah ........ in 1794 They had two sons, up to now! The other names I am researching are - Horrocks, Ashton, Draper, Graham and Peak If you want more details re Lewis or any other name, please let me know. Margaret

    05/27/2006 05:38:06
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Question on which church/parish in 1871
    2. Bob Thornley
    3. Hi Jan, I'm not up to speed on RC churches, but as I haven't seen a response to your question I suggest you consult the GENUKI church database. The ecclesiastical district you refer to is Holy Trinity rather than Holy Family. The database will show you all the churches close to Holy Trinity. Go to http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/churchdb/ and enter the OS reference for Holy Trinity, which is SD718086 I'll leave you to decide which church in the list might be the right one, unless any one on the list can offer more informed help. Good hunting Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Fortado" <janfortado@comcast.net> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:24 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Question on which church/parish in 1871 > My Spellman family lived at 3 Cunliffe Street, Great Bolton at the time of > the 1871 census. (Municipal ward of Church and Ecclesiastical district of > Holy Family). Because my grandfather was an infant and because I have not > found his Baptism in Stockport, where he was born, I am wondering if he > was baptized in Bolton. > > Is there anyone on this list who might know which Roman Catholic parish > this family might have belonged to if they lived on Cunliffe Street? > > Thank you, > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 6:00 AM > Subject: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D Digest V06 #163 > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then > subscribe to the other. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

    05/27/2006 05:04:48
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Emily Ann SHEPHERD
    2. Peter Wood
    3. Hello Sandie I don't have much to add, just a query about some of your information. You said that in 1891 Emily Shepherd is in Bolton and her birthplace is given as Blackley, Northampton. Then you say that in later census returns Emily's birthplace is given as Bolton. The only later available census is 1901 by which time she is Emily McInnes married to George. Is she not with her family in Oldham at that time as follows (I don't have access to Ancestry, so the following people are on the same census page, but admittedly not necessarily the same family)? George McI 29 b.Scotland Carter Emily McI 29 born Northampton Blackley Gertrude McI 10 bBolton Sarah McI 8 bBolton George 6 bOldham Emily 5 bOldham Agnes 3 bOldham This would fit with the couple being married in Bolton in 1892, possibly with their ages fudged up to 21. Anne mentioned a Gertrude born in Bolton 1880 - I'd guess she was the one born in Sharples with parents Joseph & Mary J. in the 1881 census, living in Manchester. Peter Wood

    05/27/2006 05:02:59
    1. Searchable Data - OPC
    2. Paul Dixon
    3. It has always been the goal of the Lancashire Online Parish Clerks to provide a search function for the data extracted from Parish Registers. This search function is now availble. The search is designed to simplify the problem of mulitple spelling for names. It does not accept wild cards, just enter the normal spelling for a name that is used today and it should return all instances of that name, however it was spelled in the register. Don't try to be too clever with spelling since this may result in no matches. Searches are based on a parish. Where there are records from more than one church in that parish, the desired church may be selected from the drop down box. Searches may also be conducted on that whole parish or on the whole county. There is no facility to select more than one parish at the same time. You will find a link to the Search function on the OPC home page:- http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ Or you may go direct to the Search function at:- http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html If anyone encounters any problems, please contact me privately at:- rpd_opc@yahoo.com Regards, Paul Dixon Carrollton, Texas Co-ordinator, Lancashire OnLine Parish Clerks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    05/27/2006 02:54:06
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Emily Ann SHEPHERD
    2. pneanne
    3. Hi Sandie, I have been looking for Rosa Shepherd on the Censuses and I think this is her on the 1861 Census. The place is Brackley, Northamptonshire. Malls? Lane, Parish of St. Jame,s Brackley Ann Shepherd head Wid. 35 Wid. Lace Maker Syresham, Northants Sarah d. Un. 17 Lace Maker Brackley, Northants Rosetta d. Un. 13 Brackley, Northants John White lodger Un. 48 Gen Lab. N.K. Anne in Bolton. ----- Original Message ----- From: <RevSandie@aol.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:45 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Emily Ann SHEPHERD > Hi, > > Hoping you all can help! > > I've been lurking on the group for quite a while, mainly because my > McINNES > line lived in Bolton between about 1890 and 1895 en route between Glasgow > and > Oldham. In the 1891 census they lived at 66 Union Road, Tongue with > Haulgh, > and my Gt Grandfather George McINNES was a brass foundry worker. > > I have a big brick wall in the shape of my Gt Grandmother Emily Ann > SHEPHERD, who married George McINNES on 16 May 1892 at Bolton Register > Office. I > have the marriage cert, which shows her father as James SHEPHERD, and her > age as > 21 which gives a birth year of approx. 1871. In the 1891 census she is > living at 4 Robert Street, Little Bolton with her mother Rosa SHEPHERD > (status S > = spinster? single?) and younger sister Gertrude. Her birthplace is > given as > Blackley, Northampton, as is Rosa's. (There is no Blackley in > Northamptonshire, although there is a Brackley and a Blakesley) However, > Gertrude was born > Bolton, and in later census returns Emily's birthplace is given as > Bolton. > I can't find Emily in the 1881 census, or any marriage record of Rose > SHEPHERD, or any clear link to a James SHEPHERD. > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I go from here? (NB There > is > another Rose SHEPHERD who seems to have been born in Northants and later > moved > to Lancashire, but in later censuses she has the wrong children and > husband, > which all goes to make it the more confusing.) > > Sandie > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.1/348 - Release Date: 25/05/2006 > >

    05/27/2006 02:41:20
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Emily Ann SHEPHERD
    2. pneanne
    3. Hello Sandie These are the details of the McInnes family in 1901, which Peter found. 16 Pleasant Street, Oldham George McInnes head marr. 29 Carter Carrier Scotland Emily McInnes wife 29 Blackley, Northampton Gertrude McInnes dau. 10 Bolton Sarah McInnes dau. 8 Bolton George McInnes son 6 Oldham Emily McInnes dau. 5 Oldham Agnes McInnes d. 3 Oldham Anne in Bolton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Wood" <st.peter@paradise.net.nz> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Emily Ann SHEPHERD > Hello Sandie > > I don't have much to add, just a query about some of your information. You > said that in 1891 Emily Shepherd is in Bolton and her birthplace is given > as Blackley, Northampton. Then you say that in later census returns > Emily's > birthplace is given as Bolton. The only later available census is 1901 by > which time she is Emily McInnes married to George. > > Is she not with her family in Oldham at that time as follows (I don't have > access to Ancestry, so the following people are on the same census page, > but admittedly not necessarily the same family)? > George McI 29 b.Scotland Carter > Emily McI 29 born Northampton Blackley > Gertrude McI 10 bBolton > Sarah McI 8 bBolton > George 6 bOldham > Emily 5 bOldham > Agnes 3 bOldham > > This would fit with the couple being married in Bolton in 1892, possibly > with their ages fudged up to 21. > > Anne mentioned a Gertrude born in Bolton 1880 - I'd guess she was the one > born in Sharples with parents Joseph & Mary J. in the 1881 census, living > in Manchester. > > Peter Wood > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.1/348 - Release Date: 25/05/2006 > >

    05/27/2006 02:25:39
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Emily Ann SHEPHERD
    2. Hi Anne, Thanks for the birth cert and 1861 census suggestion, which I'll follow up. I've actually trawled through the BMD records name by name, using all the variant spellings I can think of, and I can't locate any likely Emily Shepherd to have been born in Northamptonshire around 1871, or any marriage cert for a James Shepherd to a Rosa. Perhaps James was just a made-up name to cover up the fact that Rosa wasn't married. It does seem worth applying for those two birth certs so thanks again for the suggestion. Kind regards Sandie In a message dated 26/05/06 23:17:29 GMT Daylight Time, pne.anne@ntlworld.com writes: I have found the following on the Free BMD's Emily Shepherd born March Qtr. 1872 Bolton Gertrude Shepherd born June Quarter 1880 Bolton. >I have been looking for Rosa Shepherd on the Censuses and I think this is >her on the 1861 Census. The place is Brackley, Northamptonshire. >Malls? Lane, Parish of St. Jame,s Brackley >Ann Shepherd head Wid. 35 Wid. Lace Maker Syresham, Northants >Sarah d. Un. 17 Lace Maker Brackley, Northants >Rosetta d. Un. 13 Brackley, Northants >John White lodger Un. 48 Gen Lab. N.K.

    05/26/2006 11:19:23
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Emily Ann SHEPHERD
    2. Peter, You're absolutely right of course - I think I've got myself confused by going round in circles so many times, and I now can't remember where I saw Emily listed as having been born in Lancashire, or maybe I just dreamt it. Thanks for putting me back on the right track. (The family you mention from the 1901 census is definitely the right one, their oldest daughter Gertrude being my grandmother.) Sandie In a message dated 27/05/06 00:03:32 GMT Daylight Time, st.peter@paradise.net.nz writes: I don't have much to add, just a query about some of your information. You said that in 1891 Emily Shepherd is in Bolton and her birthplace is given as Blackley, Northampton. Then you say that in later census returns Emily's birthplace is given as Bolton. The only later available census is 1901 by which time she is Emily McInnes married to George. Is she not with her family in Oldham at that time as follows (I don't have access to Ancestry, so the following people are on the same census page, but admittedly not necessarily the same family)? George McI 29 b.Scotland Carter Emily McI 29 born Northampton Blackley

    05/26/2006 11:08:51
    1. BAINES-BANTON
    2. Hi Bob Just out of interest, I have the Dent parish registers, and there are the following entries: Edmund, son of Elizabeth and John Baines of Dikehall. Baptised on August 29 1788. Edmund Baines, Bach. and Jane Bentham, Spin. BOTP. Married by Banns on April 18 1808 by James Dawson. Witnesses: Thomas Metcalf, James Parker. John Baines and Elizabeth Hodgson, BOTP. Married by Banns on June 24 1777 by R Sedgwick. Witnesses: Margaret Alderson, James Hodgson. [Edmund Baines parents marriage]. Marian ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using iiMetro WebMail

    05/26/2006 09:05:16
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Emily Ann SHEPHERD
    2. pneanne
    3. Hi Sandie, I have found the following on the Free BMD's Emily Shepherd born March Qtr. 1872 Bolton Gertrude Shepherd born June Quarter 1880 Bolton. You could apply to the Register Office at Mere Hall, Bolton for the birth certificates and ask them to send them if the mother's name is shown as Rosa. This will probably explain who the father was. Kind regards, Anne in Bolton. ----- Original Message ----- From: <RevSandie@aol.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:45 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Emily Ann SHEPHERD > Hi, > > Hoping you all can help! > > I've been lurking on the group for quite a while, mainly because my > McINNES > line lived in Bolton between about 1890 and 1895 en route between Glasgow > and > Oldham. In the 1891 census they lived at 66 Union Road, Tongue with > Haulgh, > and my Gt Grandfather George McINNES was a brass foundry worker. > > I have a big brick wall in the shape of my Gt Grandmother Emily Ann > SHEPHERD, who married George McINNES on 16 May 1892 at Bolton Register > Office. I > have the marriage cert, which shows her father as James SHEPHERD, and her > age as > 21 which gives a birth year of approx. 1871. In the 1891 census she is > living at 4 Robert Street, Little Bolton with her mother Rosa SHEPHERD > (status S > = spinster? single?) and younger sister Gertrude. Her birthplace is > given as > Blackley, Northampton, as is Rosa's. (There is no Blackley in > Northamptonshire, although there is a Brackley and a Blakesley) However, > Gertrude was born > Bolton, and in later census returns Emily's birthplace is given as > Bolton. > I can't find Emily in the 1881 census, or any marriage record of Rose > SHEPHERD, or any clear link to a James SHEPHERD. > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I go from here? (NB There > is > another Rose SHEPHERD who seems to have been born in Northants and later > moved > to Lancashire, but in later censuses she has the wrong children and > husband, > which all goes to make it the more confusing.) > > Sandie > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.1/348 - Release Date: 25/05/2006 > >

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