Hi Valerie, I have also now managed to look at the 1841 Census, and I couldn't find a Sarah with parents Robert and Ann, as per the IGI, but found the ones listed below. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie" <v.lirakis@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 12:03 AM Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Sarah Mayoh of Bolton > > Hi Anne, > > I've found two Sarah's on the 1841, neither of which has Robert and Ann as > parents. > > Cabbage Row, Turton > William Mayoh, 50 Ag Lab > Sarah, 45 > William, 20 Stoker > Ann, 20 > John, 15, Weaver > Sarah, 10 > Samuel, 5 > > Greenalls, Turton > Christopher Mayoh, 35 Quarry Man > Nancy, 30 > Sarah, 12, Weaver > Nancy, 8 > Sophia, 6 > Priscilla, 4 > Dinah, 1 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pneanne [mailto:pne.anne@ntlworld.com] > Sent: 06 June 2006 20:17 > To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Sarah Mayoh of Bolton > > Hello Andrew, > > As Valerie as mentioned, there are a few Sarah Mayohs born about the same > time in Turton. > > I have found a Sarah Mayoh christened in 1830 and her parents were Robert > Mayoh and Ann Ainsworth. I wonder if this is where her son Richard got > his > Ainsworth name from? > > Anne in Bolton. > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.2/356 - Release Date: 05/06/2006 > >

Hi Anne, I've found two Sarah's on the 1841, neither of which has Robert and Ann as parents. Cabbage Row, Turton William Mayoh, 50 Ag Lab Sarah, 45 William, 20 Stoker Ann, 20 John, 15, Weaver Sarah, 10 Samuel, 5 Greenalls, Turton Christopher Mayoh, 35 Quarry Man Nancy, 30 Sarah, 12, Weaver Nancy, 8 Sophia, 6 Priscilla, 4 Dinah, 1 -----Original Message----- From: pneanne [mailto:pne.anne@ntlworld.com] Sent: 06 June 2006 20:17 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Sarah Mayoh of Bolton Hello Andrew, As Valerie as mentioned, there are a few Sarah Mayohs born about the same time in Turton. I have found a Sarah Mayoh christened in 1830 and her parents were Robert Mayoh and Ann Ainsworth. I wonder if this is where her son Richard got his Ainsworth name from? Anne in Bolton.

Hello Andrew, As Valerie as mentioned, there are a few Sarah Mayohs born about the same time in Turton. I have found a Sarah Mayoh christened in 1830 and her parents were Robert Mayoh and Ann Ainsworth. I wonder if this is where her son Richard got his Ainsworth name from? I will check this family on the 1841 Census when Ancestry lets me look at the images. I am having a problem with it at the moment. My husband has a Betty Mayoh born about 1778 in Turton who married Robert Burrows. Anne in Bolton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Lord" <andrew_lord@mac.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Sarah Mayoh of Bolton > Hello Valerie > > Thank you for your email and for consulting the IGI. > > I know little more about Sarah. On the 1871 census Sarah is 42 years of > age and has five children, born between about 1849 and 1869. The children > were Betsy (1849) and Richard Ainsworth Mayo (1851) - both born in Bury - > James (1853), Edward (1866) and Ellen (1869) - all born in Rochdale. All > the children have Sarah's maiden name, Mayo, although on the 1871 census > her husband is Edward Burry, Ireland, bn c 1836. Sarah disappears from > record after 1871. On the 1881 census records the youngest daughter Ellen > is a boarder with her sister Betsy's family. I've made a guess that Sarah > lived from c 1829 until c 1875. I've not found a marraige certifcate or > death certifcate for Sarah. > > I found Richard Mayo, her second child and my ggrandfather, baptised in > Bury in 1851, on the IGI and learnt that Richard Mayo's father was > Richard Ainsworth, a hatter from Bury. I have Richard Mayo's birth > certificate from 1851, where Sarah is living on Bury New Road (which - > according to Google earth - is quite some distance from Bury and closer > to Bolton). James, her second son, was born at Swan's Place, Rochdale in > 1853. (no father). Sarah signed with a cross. > > I mention race because of a family story that someone of (I think) > Sarah's generation, or perhaps Sarah's mother, was described as > 'mulatto', brought back to Lancashire from a war abroad to live as a > wife, alongside an existing wife. I've no reason not to believe this > story. > > Is Turton Bolton, as far as certificates are concerned? I have another > ggrandfather from Turton (unrelated to Sarah) but his birthplace is > always stated as Turton, not Bolton. > > Thank you again. I'm grateful for any suggestions. > > Andrew > > On Jun 6, 2006, at 4:18 AM, Valerie wrote: > >> From: Andrew Lord [mailto:andrew_lord@mac.com] Sent: 04 June 2006 13:35 >> < >> I'm looking in particular for any information about my gggrandmother >> Sarah Mayoh, born in Bolton, c1829. >> Are there any documents that might specify Sarah's 'race'?> >> >> Hello Andrew, and welcome to the List. >> >> I'm intrigued by your use of the word 'race' in your message. Have you >> any >> reason to think that Sarah may have been of mixed parentage? >> >> There are several Sarah Mayoh's around this period on the IGI, baptized >> in >> Turton. I've checked the Walmsley Baptisms and she doesn't appear to be >> there, so more likely to have been St. Anne's. >> >> What else can you tell me about Sarah? >> >> Valerie >> >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== >> Bolton Metro - bolton@bolton.gov.uk >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/ >> 2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then > subscribe to the other. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.2/356 - Release Date: 05/06/2006 > >

Hi Martin, Are these the booklets you mean? http://northturton.com/edgworth/history_society_publications.html cheers, Sharon -----Original Message----- From: Martin Briscoe [mailto:mbriscoe@zetnet.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2006 7:37 PM To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Turton FHS Has any mentioned the Turton FHS on the list. I am not a member but I have quite often come away with one of their booklets when I have stopped off for a walk around the Bolton bookshops on my way North. They always have lots of useful information, much of it concerning Bolton in general. The week I got their latest booklet, Harwood The Early Years. This has pictures of many of the farm buildings around that area and some good maps. I have only seen the booklets in Bolton, they do not seem to be for sale online which is a great pity as I am sure many would find them interesting. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== For Family/Local History covering Bolton, Horwich, Farnworth, Westhoughton and Turton. Please keep the messages coming. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Yes those are the ones but the website does not seem to have been updated for some time. There are some more now 23 People and Places of Turton 2003 24 Lost industries of Turton Moor 2003 25 Harwood Hill Farms & Riding Gate 2004 26 Samuel Scowcroft's Diary 2005 27 Harwood The Early Years 2006 Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Bunter [mailto:sbunter@bigpond.net.au] Sent: 06 June 2006 13:05 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Turton FHS Hi Martin, Are these the booklets you mean? http://northturton.com/edgworth/history_society_publications.html cheers, Sharon -----Original Message----- From: Martin Briscoe [mailto:mbriscoe@zetnet.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2006 7:37 PM To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Turton FHS Has any mentioned the Turton FHS on the list. I am not a member but I have quite often come away with one of their booklets when I have stopped off for a walk around the Bolton bookshops on my way North. They always have lots of useful information, much of it concerning Bolton in general. The week I got their latest booklet, Harwood The Early Years. This has pictures of many of the farm buildings around that area and some good maps. I have only seen the booklets in Bolton, they do not seem to be for sale online which is a great pity as I am sure many would find them interesting.

Has any mentioned the Turton FHS on the list. I am not a member but I have quite often come away with one of their booklets when I have stopped off for a walk around the Bolton bookshops on my way North. They always have lots of useful information, much of it concerning Bolton in general. The week I got their latest booklet, Harwood The Early Years. This has pictures of many of the farm buildings around that area and some good maps. I have only seen the booklets in Bolton, they do not seem to be for sale online which is a great pity as I am sure many would find them interesting. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS

Hi Marian, I must apologise, I've just realised that I didn't reply to your message. Dent is a bit outside my normal research area but I'm only just working on the period around the turn of the 19c with the Bantons and Benthams, so anything is certainly possible. As a result, I'd flagged the message with the intention of having a quick check for any obvious links before replying, so that I could give you the good news if there was any. Then I got sidetracked and as I get over 100 emails every day your message temporarily became swamped and has only just reappeared. I can't immediately find a link, but I've now entered these names into my list of un-linked Benthams so that they'll be included future checks, and of course I'll let you know if anything turns up. Best wishes, and thanks for your interest - it's very much appreciated. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: <youngm@iimetro.com.au> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:05 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] BAINES-BANTON > Hi Bob > > Just out of interest, I have the Dent parish registers, and there are the > following entries: > > Edmund, son of Elizabeth and John Baines of Dikehall. Baptised on August > 29 > 1788. > > Edmund Baines, Bach. and Jane Bentham, Spin. BOTP. Married by Banns on > April 18 > 1808 by James Dawson. Witnesses: Thomas Metcalf, James Parker. > > John Baines and Elizabeth Hodgson, BOTP. Married by Banns on June 24 1777 > by R > Sedgwick. Witnesses: Margaret Alderson, James Hodgson. [Edmund Baines > parents marriage]. > > Marian > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using iiMetro WebMail > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi, Am pleased to report the server has sorted things out. Will now spend the rest of the morning reading 4 days mail. A good job for a minus 3 deg frosty morning. Regards Joy New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "JoyWarner" <joyw@xtra.co.nz> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:08 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] NO MESSAGES COMING TO N.Z > Good Morning List, > I are having a problem here in New Zealand I have not received any messages > from the rootsweb since Friday 2nd. > Have checked with my sever and there is no problem with them. I am able to > get the Rootsweb site up . Just no messages > I have checked with friends who are in the same boat. > Hope some one can help > Joy W. > New Zealand. > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release Date: 2/06/06 > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release Date: 2/06/06 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release Date: 2/06/06

From: Andrew Lord [mailto:andrew_lord@mac.com] Sent: 04 June 2006 13:35 < I'm looking in particular for any information about my gggrandmother Sarah Mayoh, born in Bolton, c1829. Are there any documents that might specify Sarah's 'race'?> Hello Andrew, and welcome to the List. I'm intrigued by your use of the word 'race' in your message. Have you any reason to think that Sarah may have been of mixed parentage? There are several Sarah Mayoh's around this period on the IGI, baptized in Turton. I've checked the Walmsley Baptisms and she doesn't appear to be there, so more likely to have been St. Anne's. What else can you tell me about Sarah? Valerie

Hello Valerie Thank you for your email and for consulting the IGI. I know little more about Sarah. On the 1871 census Sarah is 42 years of age and has five children, born between about 1849 and 1869. The children were Betsy (1849) and Richard Ainsworth Mayo (1851) - both born in Bury - James (1853), Edward (1866) and Ellen (1869) - all born in Rochdale. All the children have Sarah's maiden name, Mayo, although on the 1871 census her husband is Edward Burry, Ireland, bn c 1836. Sarah disappears from record after 1871. On the 1881 census records the youngest daughter Ellen is a boarder with her sister Betsy's family. I've made a guess that Sarah lived from c 1829 until c 1875. I've not found a marraige certifcate or death certifcate for Sarah. I found Richard Mayo, her second child and my ggrandfather, baptised in Bury in 1851, on the IGI and learnt that Richard Mayo's father was Richard Ainsworth, a hatter from Bury. I have Richard Mayo's birth certificate from 1851, where Sarah is living on Bury New Road (which - according to Google earth - is quite some distance from Bury and closer to Bolton). James, her second son, was born at Swan's Place, Rochdale in 1853. (no father). Sarah signed with a cross. I mention race because of a family story that someone of (I think) Sarah's generation, or perhaps Sarah's mother, was described as 'mulatto', brought back to Lancashire from a war abroad to live as a wife, alongside an existing wife. I've no reason not to believe this story. Is Turton Bolton, as far as certificates are concerned? I have another ggrandfather from Turton (unrelated to Sarah) but his birthplace is always stated as Turton, not Bolton. Thank you again. I'm grateful for any suggestions. Andrew On Jun 6, 2006, at 4:18 AM, Valerie wrote: > From: Andrew Lord [mailto:andrew_lord@mac.com] Sent: 04 June 2006 > 13:35 < > I'm looking in particular for any information about my gggrandmother > Sarah Mayoh, born in Bolton, c1829. > Are there any documents that might specify Sarah's 'race'?> > > Hello Andrew, and welcome to the List. > > I'm intrigued by your use of the word 'race' in your message. Have > you any > reason to think that Sarah may have been of mixed parentage? > > There are several Sarah Mayoh's around this period on the IGI, > baptized in > Turton. I've checked the Walmsley Baptisms and she doesn't appear > to be > there, so more likely to have been St. Anne's. > > What else can you tell me about Sarah? > > Valerie > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > Bolton Metro - bolton@bolton.gov.uk > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and > friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/ > 2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Hi Margaret, Thanks for your equiry. My paternal line of Holden was only in Bolton from around 1885, and previously in Pendleton from around 1875. Thomas originated in Abbeytown, Cumberland, near Hadrians Wall, and the border with Scotland. I have a long line ot Thomas Holden's, my gg.grandfather was born 1805 in Holme Abbey, Abbeytown. G.grandfather Thomas Holden b.1837 Holme Abbey, he married 1865 to Margaret Southwell in Maryport, but Margaret died and he moved down to Pendleton where in 1875 he married Rosannah (nee Joyce last Smith), and they had 4 children (Rosannah, Elizabeth, Alice, & Thomas) before moving to Bolton around 1885. Thomas had at least one younger brother Joseph b.1854 who moved down to Salford and appeared on 1881 census there. I do not know of any of the family being in Lancashire in the earlier years. Anouska ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin & Margaret" <marlin.2817@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] NEW TO LIST > Hi, JUst read that you are connected some way to Holden. My > g.g.grandfather married a Sarah Holden born 1838, to Richard and Amelia . > Amelia was his second wife and she was a widow, previously married to a > George Pope, having a child called George Pope from her marriage. Amelia > lived in Lark Street in 1861 the year that Sarah married Joseph Heap ( my > g.g.grandfather ) any connection ? regards, Margaret Calderbank ( nee > Heap) > Other names on reseach list are ;- Calderbank, Waring, Holden, Hart, > Heap - anyone from Heywood out there ? , Gamble- originated from > Whitehaven Cumbria. > Lewis, Kirkwood, Bradburn. ( These names are all connected to Heap) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M.A.Reynolds" <anouska.reynolds@ntlworld.com> > To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:40 AM > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] NEW TO LIST > > >>I was born Halliwell, Bolton, and my research covers the following names >>and areas. >> >> HOLDEN - Halliwell, Bolton/Pendleton/Abbeytown, Cumberland >> SMITH - Halliwell & Deane, Bolton >> MORRIS - Heaton & Deane, Bolton >> JOYCE - Halliwell, Bolton/Pendleton/Kildare, Ireland >> DICKINSON - Little Bolton >> KIRKBY - Halliwell, Bolton/ChorltonM/c/Lancaster >> WILLIAMSON - Halliwell, Bolton/Manchester/NantwichChes. >> BOSTOCK - Nantwich, Cheshire >> BEWLEY - Abbeytown, Cumberland >> HODDER - Manchester/Bridport, Dorset >> ROW - Bridport, Dorset >> MITCHELL - Warrington/Galway, Ireland >> FINNERTY - Warrington/Galway, Ireland >> CULLEN - Warrington/Batley, Yorks/Ireland >> BURGESS - Warrington/Glasgow/Meath, Ireland >> MORGAN - Warrington/Aberystwyth, Wales >> >> Anouska >> Warrington, Cheshire >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== >> To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then >> subscribe to the other. >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then > subscribe to the other. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Valerie, He was alive in September 1859 as his employment on the Elizabeth's wedding certificate was given as Carter. I have not found John's marriage. But where was Richard in the previous census years when his children were being looked after by relations. I have looked at deaths after 1859 but because they do not give the age, I do not know which one, any help would be appreciated. Mag----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie" <v.lirakis@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 1:47 PM Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] DRAPER > Hi Mag, > > Where have you looked for traces of Richard? If you have the marriage > certificates of either of his children that would at least tell you if > Richard was alive or dead. > > Valerie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Margaret Horrocks [mailto:mags70@tesco.net] > Sent: 01 June 2006 11:38 > To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] DRAPER > > Can anyone tell me what happened to Richard Draper born c1803 christened at > Dean. Mag > > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > For Family/Local History covering Bolton, Horwich, Farnworth, Westhoughton and Turton. Please keep the messages coming. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Hi, JUst read that you are connected some way to Holden. My g.g.grandfather married a Sarah Holden born 1838, to Richard and Amelia . Amelia was his second wife and she was a widow, previously married to a George Pope, having a child called George Pope from her marriage. Amelia lived in Lark Street in 1861 the year that Sarah married Joseph Heap ( my g.g.grandfather ) any connection ? regards, Margaret Calderbank ( nee Heap) Other names on reseach list are ;- Calderbank, Waring, Holden, Hart, Heap - anyone from Heywood out there ? , Gamble- originated from Whitehaven Cumbria. Lewis, Kirkwood, Bradburn. ( These names are all connected to Heap) ----- Original Message ----- From: "M.A.Reynolds" <anouska.reynolds@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:40 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] NEW TO LIST >I was born Halliwell, Bolton, and my research covers the following names >and areas. > > HOLDEN - Halliwell, Bolton/Pendleton/Abbeytown, Cumberland > SMITH - Halliwell & Deane, Bolton > MORRIS - Heaton & Deane, Bolton > JOYCE - Halliwell, Bolton/Pendleton/Kildare, Ireland > DICKINSON - Little Bolton > KIRKBY - Halliwell, Bolton/ChorltonM/c/Lancaster > WILLIAMSON - Halliwell, Bolton/Manchester/NantwichChes. > BOSTOCK - Nantwich, Cheshire > BEWLEY - Abbeytown, Cumberland > HODDER - Manchester/Bridport, Dorset > ROW - Bridport, Dorset > MITCHELL - Warrington/Galway, Ireland > FINNERTY - Warrington/Galway, Ireland > CULLEN - Warrington/Batley, Yorks/Ireland > BURGESS - Warrington/Glasgow/Meath, Ireland > MORGAN - Warrington/Aberystwyth, Wales > > Anouska > Warrington, Cheshire > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then > subscribe to the other. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Hi Kath, It's not unusual to see USD as the birthplace, following the name of the street, but usually the birthdate would also be stated. Do you know the name of the sanitary district where the birth took place? I wonder if perhaps 'T' could have been its initial letter? Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton From: "Kathryn Hale" <kathhale23@yahoo.co.uk> > Definately looks like a T but it is always possible that his pen > slipped.The > birth was in 1890 was it usual to put urban sanitary > district on a > certificate ?I have never come across this before

Good Morning List, I are having a problem here in New Zealand I have not received any messages from the rootsweb since Friday 2nd. Have checked with my sever and there is no problem with them. I am able to get the Rootsweb site up . Just no messages I have checked with friends who are in the same boat. Hope some one can help Joy W. New Zealand. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release Date: 2/06/06

Jan, It appears from the online catalog for the LDS Family History Library at FamilySearch that the they also have copies of the microfilms. You can rent them at your local LDS Family History Center for a nominal fee. ======================================== Parish registers of St. Mary's Church, Stockport, 1584-1901 Church of England. St. Mary's Church (Stockport, Cheshire) (Main Author) ... Baptisms, Mar. 1835-June 1877. - FHL BRITISH Film [ 2146001 ] ======================================== However, I would think the birth registration record would be more desirable, because the baptismal record may not give the date of birth. This record in FreeBMD appears to be your John SPELLMAN. You can purchase one from the GRO-E (http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificate/index.asp#0) for UK£7.00 and they do accept credit cards. ======================================= Births Jun 1870 Spellman John Edward Stockport 8a 67 ======================================= At 06:01 AM 6/4/2006, you wrote: >From: "Jan Fortado" <janfortado@comcast.net> >To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Questioin on research at the Lancashire record office > >I live in the US and am looking for only one >possible record from the old St. Mary's in >Heaton Norris, Stockport. Apparently the older >records are kept at the record office, not the church. > >I was told that the Reference MF for St. Mary's >christening and marriage records is 1/219-220. >The office does not do research. If I ask an >individual to do research, they usually don't >accept credit cards, and I have not British sterling on hand to send. > >Can someone please suggest how I go about >checking to at the record office to see if there >was a baptismal record for John Spellman/Spelman >who was born in the parish of St. Mary's in June >1870? (He might not have been baptized there, >but he was not baptized at the other two >churches in Stockport - St. Joseph's or Our >Lady's.) Since the family was living for that >year on a street that was in St. Mary's parish, >I thought it would make sense to check those parish records for my grandfather. > >Any suggestions truly appreciated. > >Jan

Definately looks like a T but it is always possible that his pen slipped.The birth was in 1890 was it usual to put urban sanitary district on a certificate ?I have never come across this before Kath Antony Lambert <antonylambert@certificates.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: Should it not be USD ? Urban Sanitary District Good Luck: Antony Lambert; the Certificate Man. Certificates in 5 Days see: http://www.certificates.fsnet.co.uk/certificates.htm ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== For Family/Local History covering Bolton, Horwich, Farnworth, Westhoughton and Turton. Please keep the messages coming. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Should it not be USD ? Urban Sanitary District Good Luck: Antony Lambert; the Certificate Man. Certificates in 5 Days see: http://www.certificates.fsnet.co.uk/certificates.htm

Hi everyone, I have just recieved a birth certificate and under the ' when and where born ' space, after the place of birth, it has the initials T.S.D. Does anyone know what this stands for please ? The place of birth reads 33,Derby Street and was in Great Bolton Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Dear List I am a new subscriber. I'm looking in particular for any information about my gggrandmother Sarah Mayoh, born in Bolton, c1829. She had several children in Bury and Rochdale - her first (surviving) children were James and Betsy. Richard Ainsworth of Bury appears as father to her third child. Sarah gave birth to his child, Richard Ainsworth Mayo, my ggrandfather, on New Road Bury in 1851. Are there any documents that might specify Sarah's 'race'? I am very eager to piece together Sarah's brief and unorthodox life although so far she seems to have avoided many of the usual points of identification. I would be grateful for advice on how to proceed. Many thanks Andrew