I have a copy of her death certificate as Rachel Gaskell. Her husband Thomas was born Thomas Wilson out of wedlock, but probably grew up thinking he was Thomas Gaskell because his mother married a Gaskell when he was one year old! They used both names on different censuses, and my grandfather, their son, was Richard Gaskell. Her other son, William Gaskell, reported her death as Gaskell, but I am thinking that if her husband Thomas buried her he would have called her Wilson! I think it is a bit of a coincidence that there is a 47 year old Rachel Wilson buried at St. Peter's Halliwell in the same month that my Rachel died. Now you know why it has taken me four years to track them down! My hope is there may be some clue inscribed on the monument. Ever hopeful that someone in Bolton doesn't care about soccer!!! Sorry - blasphemy I know - I still have soccer daft relatives there! Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie" <v.lirakis@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:59 AM Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] GASKELL WILSON BURIAL > Hi Anne, > > I think your request might run into stiff competition from the World Cup, > which is now in full swing, and with tennis about to start... > > A newspaper report of the death is a distinct possibility now that you a > date. However, I've just checked the GRO indexes for 1905 and 1906 and > have > not found a Rachel Wilson. Do you think she might have had another > forename? > > Valerie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anne Ohlgren [mailto:aohlgren@shaw.ca] > Sent: 13 June 2006 18:11 > To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] GASKELL WILSON BURIAL > > Hello > Thanks to Bob's tip about St. Peter's Halliwell, I received a reply by > return email from that church letting me know they had a burial record for > a > Rachel Wilson aged 45 in 1905. This sounds very much like the right > person, > but they have no grave number and so cannot pursue it any further! > If there is SKS who loves to roam around old graveyards (and who doesn't!) > I > would appreciate very much knowing if this is my Rachel and if there is > anything inscribed on her monument. > Also it occurs to me that there might be archives of BEN? Can they be > searched? I might find a death notice for the last week of September 1905 > to > confirm her final resting place. > Appreciate any help or suggestions. > Anne in Victoria BC > > ______________________________

From 1870-1876 my Spellmans (from the address on birth records and from the 1871 Census) lived on Cunliffe Street and on Thomas Street. Does anyone know what Roman Catholic parish these streets would have been in? Thank you, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:00 PM Subject: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D Digest V06 #183

Hi Michael, Your suggestion certainly sounds plausible. It would seem perhaps a more likely time period. If so, it would be a typo on the website because I copied and pasted the information directly from p38 of the document "Archives 2000 - A Guide To The Resources Of The Bolton Archive And Local Studies Unit", which is available for download from the Archives website. Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton From: "Michael.C. Isherwood" <mci3@tutor.open.ac.uk> > "Bob Thornley" <bob@thornleysystems.co.uk> writes: >>Blackburn Road (NC) >>Registers, minutes, accounts, Sunday School, Social Club, >>membership, Scout Movement and Women's Guild records 1885-1890 > > Is it perhaps 1885-1990? 1990 was when the church closed.

"Bob Thornley" <bob@thornleysystems.co.uk> writes: >Blackburn Road (NC) >Registers, minutes, accounts, Sunday School, Social Club, >membership, Scout Movement and Women's Guild records 1885-1890 Is it perhaps 1885-1990? 1990 was when the church closed. There are certainly baptism and marriage registers from sometime before 1910 when my Grandparents married there. The church only became "independant" of St Georges Rd Cong which spawned it around 1890; the earliest documentation I found when in Bolton was a bazaar book of 1896. But, Andrea, you are more likely to find if your people were members there by looking at the various membership records. Incidentally I am interested in anyone who has family links with the church as am trying to build up a profile of those my family were involved with Michael

Hi Anne, I think your request might run into stiff competition from the World Cup, which is now in full swing, and with tennis about to start... A newspaper report of the death is a distinct possibility now that you a date. However, I've just checked the GRO indexes for 1905 and 1906 and have not found a Rachel Wilson. Do you think she might have had another forename? Valerie -----Original Message----- From: Anne Ohlgren [mailto:aohlgren@shaw.ca] Sent: 13 June 2006 18:11 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] GASKELL WILSON BURIAL Hello Thanks to Bob's tip about St. Peter's Halliwell, I received a reply by return email from that church letting me know they had a burial record for a Rachel Wilson aged 45 in 1905. This sounds very much like the right person, but they have no grave number and so cannot pursue it any further! If there is SKS who loves to roam around old graveyards (and who doesn't!) I would appreciate very much knowing if this is my Rachel and if there is anything inscribed on her monument. Also it occurs to me that there might be archives of BEN? Can they be searched? I might find a death notice for the last week of September 1905 to confirm her final resting place. Appreciate any help or suggestions. Anne in Victoria BC

Hi Andrea, Is it just burial records you are interested in? If so, the likeliest places to search would be the cemeteries, particularly Tonge or Astley Bridge, as they would be nearer than Heaton. The films of these cemeteries are now available from the LDS centres. Valerie -----Original Message----- From: Andreafinney@aol.com [mailto:Andreafinney@aol.com] Sent: 12 June 2006 21:16 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Slater Street near (Iron Chruch) near Astley Bridge Hi All Could anyone be so kind to tell me if the 'Iron Church' (now an antiques centre I think) near Astley Bridge Area of Bolton(A666) served the community of Slater Street in Bolton (near Gordon Fords Car Showroom) in 1901 - if so, does anyone know if the were any burials at the church and if any records exist. Any help as usual would be most appreciated. Thanks & regards Andrea

Hi Valarie, Micheal and Bob Thanks very much for the info and input. I'm struggling where my G G G Gran Lucy Greenhalgh was buried as her last abode was Slater Street, Bolton in 1901 she was nearly 80 so the 'Iron Church' would have been my first choice. I didnt think there were burials at the church but didnt know, but like you say Valerie, it may be worth me searching the other cemeteries for her burial next time I get to Bolton Archives - Thanks guys as always - I do try to do as much reseach as I can, but sometimes, a little help is needed and what a great team you all are !!! Much appreciated for all your input. Regards Andrea

Hi Jan At this stage I have only gone back as far as my GG-Grandfathers birth but haven't yet confirmed this. I am fairly positive his Father was James Kay and his mother Betty ?? Children of James Kay and Betty that I have got through the IGI are as follows: 1.John chr.1795 2.James chr.1798 3.Margaret chr.1801 4.Geoffrey/Jeffrey chr.1803 5.William chr.1805 6.Peter chr.1808 7.Betty chr.1813 8. Jesse chr.1815-my GG-Grandfather 9.Joseph chr.1817 Regards Jannine Davies, Taranaki, NEW ZEALAND -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 9/06/2006

Hi Bob Thanks for the information - I will look further into. Other than that, possible other church could be St Georges (which is now a craft fair) - I will do some more digging !!! Great help as always. Regards Andrea

Hello Thanks to Bob's tip about St. Peter's Halliwell, I received a reply by return email from that church letting me know they had a burial record for a Rachel Wilson aged 45 in 1905. This sounds very much like the right person, but they have no grave number and so cannot pursue it any further! If there is SKS who loves to roam around old graveyards (and who doesn't!) I would appreciate very much knowing if this is my Rachel and if there is anything inscribed on her monument. Also it occurs to me that there might be archives of BEN? Can they be searched? I might find a death notice for the last week of September 1905 to confirm her final resting place. Appreciate any help or suggestions. Anne in Victoria BC

Hello Firstly I would like to thank Bob Thornley for his reply way back in April. I am currently researching my GG-Grandfather's family Jesse Kay born Deane by Bolton he married Ann Walker 13 March 1836 also in Deane by Bolton. They had the following children: 1.Margaret b.abt 1837, Halliwell 2.Elizabeth b. 4 June 1839, Great Bolton 3.Mary Ann b.abt 1844, Sharples 4.Joseph b.abt 1847, Sharples 5.Jeffrey William b. 31 January 1852, Sharples Addresses from census: 1841 Rothwells Court, Great Bolton 1851 & 1861 Taylor Row, Sharples 1871 Church Street, Sharples I would love to hear from anyone else researching this family particularly the girls. Jannine Davies Taranaki, NEW ZEALAND -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 9/06/2006

Hi Andrea, Just for the sake of accuracy, the garage you mention is in fact Gordon's, a main dealer for Ford vehicles, and as you say, Slater St is nearby. The Iron Church was actually Blackburn Rd Congregational Church, and I would have thought it would probably be the closest church available to Congregationalists living in Slater St. I don't think it ever had a graveyard, but there is some information held by Bolton Archives, which lists: Blackburn Road (NC) Registers, minutes, accounts, Sunday School, Social Club, membership, Scout Movement and Women's Guild records 1885-1890 I'm not sure whether the dates relate to all the records including the registers, or just the last item. I hope that will be some help, Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton From: <Andreafinney@aol.com> > Could anyone be so kind to tell me if the 'Iron Church' (now an antiques > centre I think) near Astley Bridge Area > of Bolton(A666) served the community of Slater Street in Bolton (near > Gordon > Fords Car Showroom) in 1901 - if so, does anyone know if the were any > burials at the church and if any records exist. > Any help as usual would be most appreciated. > Thanks & regards > Andrea

Hi Anne, You can investigate other possibilities by accessing the GENUKI church database at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/churchdb/ and entering the OS grid reference for St Luke's, which is SD702102 This will generate a list of churches, showing their distances from St Luke's. I'd say that the nearest church graveyard to St Luke's that's of any significant size is, and was, St Peter's, Halliwell. Sadly, this church has not released any of its records to the archives, and neither has it allowed the LDS in to transcribe them. You would need to contact the church directly by going to http://www.findachurch.co.uk/temp/sd/sd61/stphalliwell/index.html which will give you a link to an email form. There's information about the church at http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Bolton-le-Moors/Halliwell/stpeter/index.html I hope that helps, Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton From: "Anne Ohlgren" <aohlgren@shaw.ca> > Overdale has searched the records of Heaton and she is not to be found > there. Thanks for the suggestion anyway. > Anne in Victoria BC

Bob Thank you for this information - I have sent an email to St. Peter's Halliwell - fingers crossed! Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Thornley" <bob@thornleysystems.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Re: Gaskell-Wilson Burial > Hi Anne, > You can investigate other possibilities by accessing the GENUKI church > database at > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/churchdb/ > and entering the OS grid reference for St Luke's, which is > SD702102 > > This will generate a list of churches, showing their distances from St > Luke's. > > I'd say that the nearest church graveyard to St Luke's that's of any > significant size is, and was, St Peter's, Halliwell. > > Sadly, this church has not released any of its records to the archives, > and neither has it allowed the LDS in to transcribe them. > > You would need to contact the church directly by going to > http://www.findachurch.co.uk/temp/sd/sd61/stphalliwell/index.html > which will give you a link to an email form. > > There's information about the church at > http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Bolton-le-Moors/Halliwell/stpeter/index.html > > I hope that helps, > Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton > > From: "Anne Ohlgren" <aohlgren@shaw.ca> >> Overdale has searched the records of Heaton and she is not to be found >> there. Thanks for the suggestion anyway. >> Anne in Victoria BC > > ______________________________ >

Hi All Could anyone be so kind to tell me if the 'Iron Church' (now an antiques centre I think) near Astley Bridge Area of Bolton(A666) served the community of Slater Street in Bolton (near Gordon Fords Car Showroom) in 1901 - if so, does anyone know if the were any burials at the church and if any records exist. Any help as usual would be most appreciated. Thanks & regards Andrea

Do you by chance have the name of Richard Booth or Ann Kay. Ann m. Richard 26 Oct 1742 in Bolton-le-moors Parish, Lancashire, England and had at least one son named John. I know nothing regarding Ann's ancestry and any information you might have would help a great deal. Thanks, Jan Buker Castle Rock, Washington -----Original Message----- From: Jannine Davies [mailto:j9davies@xtra.co.nz] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 2:11 PM To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Jesse Kay & Ann Walker Deane Halliwell Hello Firstly I would like to thank Bob Thornley for his reply way back in April. I am currently researching my GG-Grandfather's family Jesse Kay born Deane by Bolton he married Ann Walker 13 March 1836 also in Deane by Bolton. They had the following children: 1.Margaret b.abt 1837, Halliwell 2.Elizabeth b. 4 June 1839, Great Bolton 3.Mary Ann b.abt 1844, Sharples 4.Joseph b.abt 1847, Sharples 5.Jeffrey William b. 31 January 1852, Sharples Addresses from census: 1841 Rothwells Court, Great Bolton 1851 & 1861 Taylor Row, Sharples 1871 Church Street, Sharples I would love to hear from anyone else researching this family particularly the girls. Jannine Davies Taranaki, NEW ZEALAND -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 9/06/2006 ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== For Family/Local History covering Bolton, Horwich, Farnworth, Westhoughton and Turton. Please keep the messages coming. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi Donna, As we haven't 'spoken' for a while, I thought I'd say hello, and let you know that your subject line and message have completely baffled me. Not a feat that's particularly difficult, I admit. Answer: Yes (?). Best wishes, Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton From: <DJMFLAG@aol.com> > Hi My g-g-g-grandmother Harriet Crompton married John Clough in 1796. I > have been unable to find her. Is it possible that this Harriet might > have been > a descendant of the paternal side of the family? Donna Collinge Martens

Hello All, I just 'discovered' this resource. My apologies to those who are already aware of it but for those of you who are not, it might save you time and money. http://www.rootsweb.com/~bwo/index.html It is a list of book owner's who are willing to do look-ups for anyone that asks. They also are looking for volunteers but that portion will not be operable again until July according to the website. I think this can be a great resource to many of you. Good luck in your searches. Jan Buker Castle Rock, WA 

Hi Jacqui, The lady at the following e-mail address was enquiring about Fred Norris GfPryc@aol.com Valerie -----Original Message----- From: KILCOYELS@aol.com [mailto:KILCOYELS@aol.com] Sent: 11 June 2006 19:00 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] FRED NORRIS Hi Was it on the Bolton list where some-one was enquiring about Fred Norris the Olympic runner? I have just found a photograph of him if anyone is interested. Regards Jacqui Kilcoyne ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then subscribe to the other. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

I am interested in this family: Marriage at Bolton John BOOTH = Hannah ENTWISTLE 27 May 1772 Turton St Anne's Pr's 13 Dec 1772 Richard s. John & Annah BOOTH, Entwistle., weaver. 08 May 1774 Nanny d. John & Hannah BOOTH, weaver. (Turton) 23 Jun 1775 Jane d. John & Annah BOOTH, weaver. (Turton) 04 Aug 1776 John s. John & Annah BOOTH, weaver. (Turton) 07 Mar 1779 William s. John & Hannah BOOTH, Tottington., weaver. (an LDS patron submission says they are of Entwistle he born abt 1747 and she about 1751) It is possible that my William BOOTH who married Betty WALCH at Bury 19 May 1801, and who died 8 Feb 1947 age 68 is part of the above family. Though I have not yet traced any of the above family to determine what became of them, so if anyone has any links I would be very interested to help prove/disprove my connection. Cheers, Sharon