Hi Valerie, Thank you very much for doing this for me. It will be years before I'm ever in Bolton to be able to do it myself. Could you please let me know what dates were checked so I can use them as deduction? Specific days aren't important, but if I have an idea of what was checked then I'll know what not to. Thanks again, Leisha ----- Original Message ----- From: Valerie<mailto:v.lirakis@ntlworld.com> To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootswebcom<mailto:ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 7:04 PM Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] George Herbert Knight death notice ca 1922 Hi Leisha, I looked for this inquest today but couldn't find it in the Bolton Evening News or The Bolton Journal & Guardian. Sorry I can't help on this occasion. Valerie -----Original Message----- From: Leisha Johnson-Harvey [mailto:spenbrooklee@msncom] Sent: 14 June 2006 21:00 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] George Herbert Knight death notice ca 1922 Hi all, I am hoping SKS would be able to find an entry in a Bolton newspaper about the circumstances surrounding my great grandfather's death on 9 May 1922. George Herbert Knight drowned in a mill pond off High Rid Road in Lostock. There was an inquest held the following day, and the family story is that the verdict was undetermined. No worries, I'm prepared for anything the article may say, assuming there is one. Thanks in advance, Leisha Central Penna, USA ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== For Family/Local History covering Bolton, Horwich, Farnworth, Westhoughton and Turton. Please keep the messages coming. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx> ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then subscribe to the other. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx>

Interesting web site.................. _http://www.firwoodfold.co.uk/_ (http://www.firwoodfold.co.uk/) Derek Crompton London South- East

I have just been reading through the list of churches, which I previously sent to the list. I noticed that I have typed SS Simon and June. This should, of course, be SS Simon and Jude. Anne in Bolton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "pneanne" <pne.anne@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:44 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] ANCIENT PARISHES AND TOWNSHIPS > Ancient Parishes and Townships - From the handlist of Registers at Bolton > Archives and Local Studies. > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=response > > For local goverment and other purposes, the ancient parishes were > subdivided > into a number of divisions known as townships. > > The Parish of Bolton le Moors included Anglezarke, Rivington, Sharples, > Longworth, Turton, Entwistle, Edgworth, Quarlton, Longworth, Bradshaw, > Harwood, Little Bolton, Tonge with Haulgh, Breightmet, Darcy Lever, Little > Lever, Blackrod and Lostock The Parish Church was in Great Bolton with > Chapels of Ease at Turton, Rigvington, Blackrod, Bradshaw, Walmsley and > Little Bolton. > > The Parish of Deane included Horwich, Halliwell, Heaton, Deane, Rumworth, > Westhoughton, Over Hulton, Middle Hulton, Farnworth, Little Hulton and > Kearsley. The Parish Church was in Deane with Chapels of Ease at Horwich, > Westhoughton and Peel. > > Great Lever was in the Parish of Middleton. > > Bolton Town Centre Parishes > > Although the whole of our area lay within only three ancient parishes, > namely Bolton-le-Moors, Deane and Middleton, owing to the rapid growth in > population which occurred during the nineteenth century, many additional > churches were built during this period, particularly in Bolton town > centre. > Most of these became independent parishes. A plan of the town centre > showing these 'new' parishes as they were about the year 1910 is on > display > in the search room. Here is a list of them, with the dates of their > earliest registers. > > Bolton Town Centre Parishes > > All Saints, Little Bolton 1796 > All Souls, Little Bolton 1879 > Bolton Parish Church, St. Peter 1573 > Christ Church, Great Bolton 1841 > Emmanuel, Great Bolton 1842 > Holy Trinity, Great Bolton 1826 > St. Barnabas, Little Bolton 1896 > St. Bartholomew, Great Lever > and Great Bolton 1879 > St. George, Little Bolton 1796 > St. George the Martyr, > Daubhill 1881 > St. James, Little Bolton 1863 > St. John, Little Bolton 1846 > St. Luke, Halliwell 1876 > St. Margaret, Halliwell 1907 > St. Mark, Great Bolton 1866 > St. Matthew, Little Bolton 1874 > St. Paul, Great Bolton 1863 > St. Peter (Bolton Parish Church) 1573 > St. Philip, Great Bolton 1897 > SS Simon and June, Great > Lever 1901 > > Anne in Bolton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Thornley" <bob@thornleysystems.co.uk> > To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 4:27 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] PARISH CHURCH OF TONGE MOOR > > >> Hi Barbara, >> St Mary's Deane (single 'n', by the way, and in its early years lacking >> the ultimate 'e') certainly is the parish church of Deane Parish. >> >> I think I'm right in saying that Deane was not originally part of Bolton >> le Moors, but was an adjoining parish in its own right in the Salford >> Hundred. >> >> I can accept the possibility that the first two parishes of what is now >> Bolton might have been Bolton le Moors and Dean(e), and that Bolton grew >> rapidly and new parishes were formed within the expanded boundaries >> and/or >> population, but the question is whether the churches having jurisdiction >> over these parishes where parish churches or chapels of ease, as shown on >> the map provided by Martin. >> >> If the latter then would not that make the areas chapelries rather than >> parishes? The definitions of the terms seem to me to suggest that this >> would be the logical conclusion, but I haven't found a reliable statement >> of the de facto situation, which may well not be logical at all. >> >> Perhaps I should watch the football and forget about it. >> >> Eng- l- a -a nd! >> >> Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton >> >> From: BARBARA WINDER >> Deanne in Bolton certainly has its own church, its own parish and its own >> rector- with parts dating from the Saxon era it also is older than St >> Peters. >> Barbara >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== >> To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then >> subscribe to the other. >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. 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Hi Val, I managed to obtain a photocopy of Folds Road Independent Methodist today, which I will send to you offlist. The article also contains a history of the church, which you will find interesting. This church was assisted by preachers of Independent Methodism from Warrington. In the early days it was quite common for these men to walk from Warrington to Bolton and back, a round trip of some 32 miles, without any remuneration!! At a leaders meeting the following resolution was passed: quote That a monthly inquiry be made whether any of the preachers' shoes require repairing.unquote Valerie -----Original Message----- From: val and dave [mailto:mountain.side@earthlink.net] Sent: 19 May 2006 14:45 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Marsh surname again > ----- Original Message ----- From: "val and dave" > <mountain.side@earthlink.net> > To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:23 PM > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Marsh surname again > > >> Hello Valerie and Listers, with a magnifing glass I notice that my >> illusive Marshes were married at Folds Road Independent Methodist >> Chapel, Little Bolton. I have yet to find the christening of any of >> their children on any bmd site. > > > >

Hi Leisha, I looked for this inquest today but couldn't find it in the Bolton Evening News or The Bolton Journal & Guardian. Sorry I can't help on this occasion. Valerie -----Original Message----- From: Leisha Johnson-Harvey [mailto:spenbrooklee@msn.com] Sent: 14 June 2006 21:00 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] George Herbert Knight death notice ca 1922 Hi all, I am hoping SKS would be able to find an entry in a Bolton newspaper about the circumstances surrounding my great grandfather's death on 9 May 1922. George Herbert Knight drowned in a mill pond off High Rid Road in Lostock. There was an inquest held the following day, and the family story is that the verdict was undetermined. No worries, I'm prepared for anything the article may say, assuming there is one. Thanks in advance, Leisha Central Penna, USA ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== For Family/Local History covering Bolton, Horwich, Farnworth, Westhoughton and Turton. Please keep the messages coming. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

I'm glad it connected !!! I had a feeling it was the Bolton List, but couldn't quite remember. I also received a response from Worcester List, but the chap is out of the office until July 3. If it seems to connect with you, I will pass the information on. Wonderful Andrew; hope they fit in with your search. Barb, Ontario, Canada.

Hello Barb, Excellent. That was me. Many thanks, Andrew On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:46 PM, Barb Baker wrote: > I cannot remember which of the Lists that I belong to had someone > looking for MAYOH ancestors. [I believe it was a Sarah MAYOH] > Hence, I am sending it to all the Lists !! > > This is from the 1881 British Census of Residents of Bolton Union > Workhouse, Fishpool, Farnworth, Lancashire, England. > > Hope that it helps someone. > Sincerely, > Barb Baker, Ontario, Canada. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Pricella MAYOH, Unmarried; Age 64, Female, Inmate; Occ: Hand Loom > Weaver, Birthplace: Smethills, Lancs. > > John MAYOT, Unmarried, Male, Inmate, Occ: No Trade, Birthplace: > Rochdale, Lancs. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or ENG-LAN- > BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

There is a book about the history of Fishpools The Pauper's Palace Betty Connor ISBN 1852160365 Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: Dellcrom@aol.com [mailto:Dellcrom@aol.com] Sent: 27 June 2006 14:22 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Bolton Workhouse Interesting web site.....(should have been) _http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/Bolton/Bolton.shtml

I cannot remember which of the Lists that I belong to had someone looking for MAYOH ancestors. [I believe it was a Sarah MAYOH] Hence, I am sending it to all the Lists !! This is from the 1881 British Census of Residents of Bolton Union Workhouse, Fishpool, Farnworth, Lancashire, England. Hope that it helps someone. Sincerely, Barb Baker, Ontario, Canada. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pricella MAYOH, Unmarried; Age 64, Female, Inmate; Occ: Hand Loom Weaver, Birthplace: Smethills, Lancs. John MAYOT, Unmarried, Male, Inmate, Occ: No Trade, Birthplace: Rochdale, Lancs. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Interesting web site.....(should have been) _http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/Bolton/Bolton.shtml_ (http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/Bolton/Bolton.shtml) Derek Crompton London South- East

Interesting web site............... _http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/index.html_ (http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/index.html) Derek Crompton London South- East No Attachments to this e=

Thank you to everyone who has sent replies re the Parish Church of Tonge Moor. I have checked the name of the vicar who married the couple, and yes, you are correct, Valerie. He was Revd Arthur W Meggison. If you hadn't told me his name I would never have deciphered it. Thank you again Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie" <v.lirakis@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 11:25 AM Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] PARISH CHURCH OF TONGE MOOR > Hi Barbara, > > There isn't a parish church of Tonge Moor as such. St. Augustine's, > Thicketford Road would be the likeliest contender. In 1905 the Vicar was > the Revd. Arthur W Meggison. > > Valerie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barbara Pritchard [mailto:bepritchard@xtra.co.nz] > Sent: 24 June 2006 05:46 > To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] PARISH CHURCH OF TONGE MOOR > > Hello List > Could some-one please tell me the name of the Parish Church of Tonge Moor. > On the marriage certificate for 1907 it only states the Parish Church of > Tonge Moor. > Thank you in advance > Barbara Pritchard > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > ______________________________

Just been looking through the IWM's online catalogue. There are a few pictures around Bolton and of people from Bolton there http://www.iwmcollections.org.uk/qryPhotoImg.asp WOMEN RAILWAY WORKERS DURING THE FIRST WORLD WAR A female oiler employed by the Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway at work at Bolton station in May 1917. THE LEND LEASE PROGRAMME Elizabeth Rothwell of Bolton, Lancashire, sitting on a table drinking from a mug containing orange juice. The orange juice was supplied from America under the Lend Lease Programme from a mug. In the foreground next to her is a bottle of Ministry of Food Concentrated Orange Juice and a wooden pull-along toy. Elizabeth Rothwell was a normally healthy baby at nine months, weighing 17 lbs. 2 ozs. Then her health began to deteriorate and she was losing weight at the rate of 1lb per month. It was decided to try a dietary supplement of concentrated orange juice, sent to Britain from America. After a few weeks her health improved and Elizabeth began to take more interest in what was around her. Elizabeth thus became Britain's "Lease-Lend" War Baby, for the concentrated orange juice from America had helped to save this tiny life BRITISH FOOD STOCKS FOR LIBERATED EUROPE, 1945 Italian prisoners re-pack boxes of foodstuffs in a farm house, somewhere in Britain, (probably near Bolton, Lancashire), for dispatch to civilians in Liberated Europe. BRITISH FOOD STOCKS FOR LIBERATED EUROPE, 1945 Italian prisoners load sacks of sugar stored in the Falcon Spinning Mill, Bolton, onto a truck for dispatch to liberated Europe. They are pushing the sacks to the truck on barrows and are using a pulley to hoist the 'Sankey Sugar' onto the truck. This one is not online but could be of interest Staff and patients at the Blair Hospital, Bromley Cross, Bolton, Lancashire. Portraits of patients and nurses, many identified, also posed group photographs. GERMANY UNDER ALLIED OCCUPATION Signaller R W Chater from North Shields and Signaller Syddall of Horwich look at the scorboard in the Olympic Stadium, Berlin, set up by some unknown British humorist. There might be more Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS

Hello List. I have a marriage certificate for William LEES (father George) & Sarah GREAVES (father Thomas) -married May 4 1851 in the Parish Church of Oldham. If anyone would like this please let me know. Regards. Perle Brooking. Younghusband. South Australia.

Holy Trinity is a lovely church- it's opposite the bus station. It did have an art framing service there- but at present there's scaffolding all round it and I fear the worst. The graveyard was long ago moved to one of the municipals for road widening to go ahead. Barbara

I think the term 'parish church' has been loosely applied to the churches that sprung up in the townships in the 19th century, e.g. Holy Trinity, Christ Church, St. George's, etc. which are clearly within the parish of St. Peter's, Bolton-le-Moors. There are two churches in Halliwell, St. Peter's, and St. Paul's, both referred to as the parish church. Clearly there can't be two parish churches in Halliwell. What is clear, though, is that there isn't (and never has been) a parish of Tonge Moor. Valerie -----Original Message----- From: pneanne [mailto:pne.anne@ntlworld.com] Sent: 26 June 2006 07:44 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] ANCIENT PARISHES AND TOWNSHIPS Ancient Parishes and Townships - From the handlist of Registers at Bolton Archives and Local Studies. For local goverment and other purposes, the ancient parishes were subdivided into a number of divisions known as townships.

Ancient Parishes and Townships - From the handlist of Registers at Bolton Archives and Local Studies. For local goverment and other purposes, the ancient parishes were subdivided into a number of divisions known as townships. The Parish of Bolton le Moors included Anglezarke, Rivington, Sharples, Longworth, Turton, Entwistle, Edgworth, Quarlton, Longworth, Bradshaw, Harwood, Little Bolton, Tonge with Haulgh, Breightmet, Darcy Lever, Little Lever, Blackrod and Lostock The Parish Church was in Great Bolton with Chapels of Ease at Turton, Rigvington, Blackrod, Bradshaw, Walmsley and Little Bolton. The Parish of Deane included Horwich, Halliwell, Heaton, Deane, Rumworth, Westhoughton, Over Hulton, Middle Hulton, Farnworth, Little Hulton and Kearsley. The Parish Church was in Deane with Chapels of Ease at Horwich, Westhoughton and Peel. Great Lever was in the Parish of Middleton. Bolton Town Centre Parishes Although the whole of our area lay within only three ancient parishes, namely Bolton-le-Moors, Deane and Middleton, owing to the rapid growth in population which occurred during the nineteenth century, many additional churches were built during this period, particularly in Bolton town centre. Most of these became independent parishes. A plan of the town centre showing these 'new' parishes as they were about the year 1910 is on display in the search room. Here is a list of them, with the dates of their earliest registers. Bolton Town Centre Parishes All Saints, Little Bolton 1796 All Souls, Little Bolton 1879 Bolton Parish Church, St. Peter 1573 Christ Church, Great Bolton 1841 Emmanuel, Great Bolton 1842 Holy Trinity, Great Bolton 1826 St. Barnabas, Little Bolton 1896 St. Bartholomew, Great Lever and Great Bolton 1879 St. George, Little Bolton 1796 St. George the Martyr, Daubhill 1881 St. James, Little Bolton 1863 St. John, Little Bolton 1846 St. Luke, Halliwell 1876 St. Margaret, Halliwell 1907 St. Mark, Great Bolton 1866 St. Matthew, Little Bolton 1874 St. Paul, Great Bolton 1863 St. Peter (Bolton Parish Church) 1573 St. Philip, Great Bolton 1897 SS Simon and June, Great Lever 1901 Anne in Bolton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Thornley" <bob@thornleysystems.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] PARISH CHURCH OF TONGE MOOR > Hi Barbara, > St Mary's Deane (single 'n', by the way, and in its early years lacking > the ultimate 'e') certainly is the parish church of Deane Parish. > > I think I'm right in saying that Deane was not originally part of Bolton > le Moors, but was an adjoining parish in its own right in the Salford > Hundred. > > I can accept the possibility that the first two parishes of what is now > Bolton might have been Bolton le Moors and Dean(e), and that Bolton grew > rapidly and new parishes were formed within the expanded boundaries and/or > population, but the question is whether the churches having jurisdiction > over these parishes where parish churches or chapels of ease, as shown on > the map provided by Martin. > > If the latter then would not that make the areas chapelries rather than > parishes? The definitions of the terms seem to me to suggest that this > would be the logical conclusion, but I haven't found a reliable statement > of the de facto situation, which may well not be logical at all. > > Perhaps I should watch the football and forget about it. > > Eng- l- a -a nd! > > Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton > > From: BARBARA WINDER > Deanne in Bolton certainly has its own church, its own parish and its own > rector- with parts dating from the Saxon era it also is older than St > Peters. > Barbara > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then > subscribe to the other. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.3/374 - Release Date: 23/06/2006 > >

Holy Trinity was declared redundant in 1993 (according to Pevsner), one website says that it is now a business centre. It is older than the present Parish Church building, built 1823-6. It is described as a "Commissioner's Church", I had not seen that term before but one web site defines it as "that is, it resulted from the desire of the Church commissioners to build more urban churches. Such churches had two roles - to meet the challenge of the growing trend of non-conformity and to save the working classes from the dangers of atheism and revolution." It is the opposite end of the town from the Parish Church (Beware, there is another St Peter's in Halliwell) Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: Charles & Linda [mailto:cap38@verizon.net] Sent: 25 June 2006 13:35 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Bolton Parish Church Could I ask what Holy Trinity is in Bolton? I had thought that was the Parish Church. Since we don't have Parish Churches in this country, the whole subject is a bit confusing. Thanks. Linda in the US ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ====

Hi Barbara, St Mary's Deane (single 'n', by the way, and in its early years lacking the ultimate 'e') certainly is the parish church of Deane Parish. I think I'm right in saying that Deane was not originally part of Bolton le Moors, but was an adjoining parish in its own right in the Salford Hundred. I can accept the possibility that the first two parishes of what is now Bolton might have been Bolton le Moors and Dean(e), and that Bolton grew rapidly and new parishes were formed within the expanded boundaries and/or population, but the question is whether the churches having jurisdiction over these parishes where parish churches or chapels of ease, as shown on the map provided by Martin. If the latter then would not that make the areas chapelries rather than parishes? The definitions of the terms seem to me to suggest that this would be the logical conclusion, but I haven't found a reliable statement of the de facto situation, which may well not be logical at all. Perhaps I should watch the football and forget about it. Eng- l- a -a nd! Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton From: BARBARA WINDER Deanne in Bolton certainly has its own church, its own parish and its own rector- with parts dating from the Saxon era it also is older than St Peters. Barbara

Hi Donna, I have made the necessary amendments to these photos. Could I ask that wherever possible you let me know straight away if anything needs to be changed, so that corrections can be made as soon as possible. Thanks. Valerie -----Original Message----- From: DJMFLAG@aol.com [mailto:DJMFLAG@aol.com] Sent: 25 June 2006 03:33 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] photograph CORRECTION!! The photograph of the family of Ellen and John Collinge is not correct.