I was given a map by the office which had instructions on how to get to the graves (Heaton) that I was interested in. I was able to virtually straight to them. What is needed is a key to the different sections of the cemetery and I can't see why the office cannot make one available in the library and elsewhere. It would be less work for them as they do offer to take you to the grave if you send off for a copy of the burial grant. I was looking for some Newfoundland Overseas Forestry Unit war graves in Carlisle so Emailed the office there and within half an hour they Emailed me a detailed map showing the layout of the cemetery (as big as Heaton). I was able to then go straight to the graves on my next visit. Wrexham actually have a plan on the notice board at the cemetery. I have suggested before that one trick is download all the war graves from the CWGC website, I put them in a EXCEL sheet. Then print that out. Print out a map - if necessary an aerial view from GOOGLE EARTH or WINDOWS LIVE LOCAL or 1:10000 map from MAGIC. Find a war grave then look up its position. Either mark on the map or make a mental note. Find another and see if any system starts to appear. I have quite often found graves using this method. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: Bob Thornley [mailto:bob@thornleysystems.co.uk] Sent: 10 July 2006 08:54 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] HEATON & TONGE CEMETERIES Pam, I've been to both cemeteries numerous times, armed with grave numbers, and I've never yet managed to use the information to get straight to the headstone I'm looking for.

Pam, I've been to both cemeteries numerous times, armed with grave numbers, and I've never yet managed to use the information to get straight to the headstone I'm looking for. The reference numbers are engraved into the backs or the plinths of the stones every so often, frequently at the ends of rows and fairly randomly otherwise. I'm sure that there was originally some sort of logic to the way the numbering system mapped onto the layout of the cemeteries and to the disposition of burials one to another, but so far it's defeated my humble efforts to fathom it. The numbering seems to follow an orderly sequence for short bursts, then changes abruptly, to reappear unpredictably some distance away. So, I wander around and peer at engraved numbers in increasing confusion, and sometimes I chance on the fugitive memorial and sometimes I give up. I think I've found most of them by the third visit. Bear in mind that there are a lot of stones missing from Tonge Cemetery. If you develop a bullet-proof theory let me know. Good luck, Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton From: <pamslocalhistory@ntlworld.com> > I am looking for the graves of the casualties of the Hulton Colliery > disaster (also known at 'Pretoria' disaster) of 1910. > I have the grave numbers, but no map and I am not familiar with the two > cemeteries. > The references are from Bolton library and there are 17 'Pretoria' graves > in Heaton, and 5 in Tonge. > I went to Overdale last week and was advised to come back in a couple of > weeks time because they were short staffed due to holidays. > Can anyone give me an idea where to look? > Regards from Pam in 'Howfen'

Hi List, I am looking for the graves of the casualties of the Hulton Colliery disaster (also known at 'Pretoria' disaster) of 1910. I have the grave numbers, but no map and I am not familiar with the two cemeteries. The references are from Bolton library and there are 17 'Pretoria' graves in Heaton, and 5 in Tonge. I went to Overdale last week and was advised to come back in a couple of weeks time because they were short staffed due to holidays. Can anyone give me an idea where to look? Regards from Pam in 'Howfen' ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information

hi There are also 5 War Graves at St John's at Wingates. Westhoughton:- BERESFORD H. Private 36843 The Loyal North Lancasire Regiment. 23/5/1917 age 29. Grave 505. FISHER S. Pioneer 352318 Royal Engineers. 25/12/1918. Grave 197. HUNT Stanley. Fusilier 3452001 Lancashire Fusiliers. 26/3/1941 age 22. Grave 356. West of Church. LAWRENSON Clifford Reginald. Lance Bombardier 1091900 Royal Artillery. 7/10/1944 age 32. Grave 474. West of Church. MAKINSON T E. Private 5260 The Loyal North Lancashire Regiment. 7/10/1944 age 21. Grave 316. Jacqui Kilcoyne

Hi Just in case anyone is looking for a Military War Grave in Westhoughton, there are 19 in Westhoughton Cemetery and 1 in Westhoughton Congregational Churchyard. Here is the information and Grave numbers:- WESTHOUGHTON CEMETERY ASHTON Edward E. Fusilier 3460815 Lancashire Fusiliers. 12/5/1942 age 32. . Grave A.1262. Noncomformist Portion. BALDWIN G. Private 222372 Canadian Infantry (Nova Scotia Regiment). Grave A C H 405 EDYVANE Clifford Revley. Private 7611033 Royal Ordinance Corps. 5/5/1944 age 18. Grave A 1918. C.Of E. Portion. GREENHALL James. Private 9747 Training Reserve. 21/8/1917. age 18. Grave F.N.C. 133. GREGORY Fred. Leading Aircraftman 33846 Royal Air Force. 23/6/ 1919 age 35. Grave A.C.H. 404. GREGORY George. Lance Corporal S/5086 Gordon Highlanders. 19/8/1916 age 21. Grave C.C.H. 1248 GREGORY Thom Edward. Sapper 1893243 Royal Engineers. 11/4/1941 age21. Grave B. 1462. C.of E. Portion. HAMPSON Harold. Corporal 7633241 Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers. 10/10/1943 age 28. Grave B.1015. Noncomformist Portion. HARRISON John. Private 16372 Kings Own (Royal Lancaster Regiment). 10/8/1916 age 38. Grave B.C.H. 1282. HUGHES John. Corporal 15401 Coldstream Guards. 11/12/1919 age 26. Grave B.R.C.474 JAMES R. Gunner 26287 Royal Field Artillery. 30/9/1916. Grave F.N.C.229. KELLY James. Private 4475 The Loyal North Lancashire Regiment. 24/11/1918 age 44. GraveE. R. C. 483. LITTLER Albert. Leading Aircraftman 1515367 Royal Airforce Volunteer Reserve. 22/2/1946. Grave A. 987. Noncomformist Portion. MATHER Emanuel. Lance Serjeant 3523733 Manchester Regiment. 30/3/1942 age 33. Grave C. 1370. C.of E. Portion. MORRIS William. Private 23516 Grenadier Guards. 27/10/1916 age 18. Grave B.N.C. 6. MURPHY J. Private 7713 Royal Munster Fusiliers. 16/10/1920. Grave F.R.C. 436. RIGBY Arthur Bentley. Private CMT/2509 Royal Army Service Corps. 12/11/1920 age 28. Grave C.N.C. 7A. SHAMBLEY Albert. Private 3853379 The Loyal Regiment (North Lancashire) 23/11.1946 age 33. Grave A. 1976. C. of E. Portion. WINROW James Robert. Private 4465247 Border Regiment. 28/5/1943 age 30. Grave 585. R.C. Portion. WESTHOUGHTON CONGREGATIONAL CHURCHYARD. hORROCKS S. Private 53404 Royal Army Medical Corps. 7/10/1916. Grave 16. I hope this helps someone. Jacqui Kilcoyne

Dear Derek I noticed you researching the CROMPTON name my sister lives in bolton, there is an area called Crompton Lodges, why it is called that i dont knowin . she is away this weekend but if you want any more info i will ask her tomorrow and get back to you just thought you might be interestedkind regards ness graham >-- Original Message -- >Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 01:02:03 -0600 >From: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com >Subject: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D Digest V06 #207 >To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com > > >--- Start of the Attached Message --- > > > >ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 207 > >Today's Topics: > #1 why would someone not have their c ["Jan Fortado" <janfortado@comcast.] > #2 The Thomas Crompton Papers ZCT [Dellcrom@aol.com] > #3 RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] why would som ["Joyce Stevens" <YankeeDD@twmi.rr.] > #4 Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] why would som ["Bob Thornley" <bob@thornleysystem] > #5 Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] why would som [Cassie Thornley <cassethor@ozemail] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D, send a message to > > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >To contact the ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D list administrator, send mail to >ENG-LAN-BOLTON-admin@rootsweb.com. > >______________________________ >--- End of the Attached Message --- > >--- Start of the Attached Message --- > >Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 09:01:43 -0400 >From: "Jan Fortado" <janfortado@comcast.net> >To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: why would someone not have their children baptized in Bolton? > > > This is a question that will not have an answer, but I am wondering if >anyone on this list has had a similar occurrence in their family. > >My family moved to Bolton from Stockport in 1871. They had children born >in >1872 and 1873 in Bolton but returned to Stockport to have these two children > >baptized (a year later and several months later for the 2nd child). They >did >not return to Stockport until 1876. Their children were baptized in a Roman > >Catholic Church in Stockport. > >Does anyone have any idea why this familydid not have their children >baptized in Bolton? > >Thank you for any input. > >Jan > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com> >To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:00 PM >Subject: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D Digest V06 #206 > >______________________________ >--- End of the Attached Message --- > >--- Start of the Attached Message --- > >Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 09:53:33 EDT >From: Dellcrom@aol.com >To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: The Thomas Crompton Papers ZCT > > >I have noticed that in Bolton Archives they have a collection of Crompton > >family history papers. These was collected by a Thomas CROMPTON. > >Apparently they were given to Bolton in 1986. But, they failed to keep a > >record of who this Thomas C. he himself gave them. Does anyone know who >he was. > >I have not seen the collection and am only going from Bolton own index and > >a2a headings. > > >Derek Crompton >London South- East > >______________________________ >--- End of the Attached Message --- > >--- Start of the Attached Message --- > >Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 09:55:48 -0400 >From: "Joyce Stevens" <YankeeDD@twmi.rr.com> >To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] why would someone not have their children baptized >in Bolton? > > >Money not available. I thought multiple baptisms were pretty much the norm >in poor times. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jan Fortado [mailto:janfortado@comcast.net] >Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 9:02 AM >To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] why would someone not have their children >baptized in Bolton? > > > This is a question that will not have an answer, but I am wondering if >anyone on this list has had a similar occurrence in their family. > >My family moved to Bolton from Stockport in 1871. They had children born >in >1872 and 1873 in Bolton but returned to Stockport to have these two children >baptized (a year later and several months later for the 2nd child). They >did >not return to Stockport until 1876. Their children were baptized in a Roman >Catholic Church in Stockport. > >Does anyone have any idea why this familydid not have their children >baptized in Bolton? > >Thank you for any input. > >Jan > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com> >To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:00 PM >Subject: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D Digest V06 #206 > > > >==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== >For Family/Local History covering Bolton, Horwich, Farnworth, Westhoughton >and Turton. Please keep the messages coming. > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors >at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta >rgetid=5429 > >______________________________ >--- End of the Attached Message --- > >--- Start of the Attached Message --- > >Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 15:08:46 +0100 >From: "Bob Thornley" <bob@thornleysystems.co.uk> >To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] why would someone not have their children baptized >in Bolton? > > >Hi Jan, >I'd have thought that the wife and possibly her husband perhaps had a >long-standing relationship with the church of her childhood as perhaps did > >one or both sets of grandparents. > >And perhaps the grandparents and other relatives and friends who would go >to >the ceremony would also be still living in Stockport. In that case, the > >travel and accommodation of one family would have been easier to organise > >and finance than that of several families. > >It's also not at all unknown for children to be born in the grandparent's > >home town in these situations because the mother has returned to her >original home for the confinement to be in the care of her mother. > >Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton > >From: "Jan Fortado" <janfortado@comcast.net> >> My family moved to Bolton from Stockport in 1871. They had children born > >> in 1872 and 1873 in Bolton but returned to Stockport to have these two > >> children baptized (a year later and several months later for the 2nd >> child). They did not return to Stockport until 1876. Their children were > >> baptized in a Roman Catholic Church in Stockport. >> Does anyone have any idea why this familydid not have their children >> baptized in Bolton? > >______________________________ >--- End of the Attached Message --- > >--- Start of the Attached Message --- > >Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 07:10:21 +1000 >From: Cassie Thornley <cassethor@ozemail.com.au> >To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] why would someone not have their children baptized >in Bolton? > > >Jan I think this is fairly common occurrence. Families were >attached to a local Church from where they moved. I've one lot who >travelled from Elle (near Lancaster) to christen their later children >at Chipping (a little way from Preston). > >The difficulty with this is that often two children are christened >together, but may be a couple of years or more apart in age. Which, >before 1837, can lead one astray re ages etc. > >cheers, Cassie > >On 07/07/2006, at 11:01 PM, Jan Fortado wrote: > >> This is a question that will not have an answer, but I am wondering >> if anyone on this list has had a similar occurrence in their family. >> >> My family moved to Bolton from Stockport in 1871. They had children >> born in 1872 and 1873 in Bolton but returned to Stockport to have >> these two children baptized (a year later and several months later >> for the 2nd child). They did not return to Stockport until 1876. >> Their children were baptized in a Roman Catholic Church in Stockport. >> >> Does anyone have any idea why this familydid not have their >> children baptized in Bolton? >> >> Thank you for any input. >> >> Jan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D- >> request@rootsweb.com> >> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:00 PM >> Subject: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D Digest V06 #206 >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== >> For Family/Local History covering Bolton, Horwich, Farnworth, >> Westhoughton and Turton. Please keep the messages coming. >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and >> friends. 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Jan I think this is fairly common occurrence. Families were attached to a local Church from where they moved. I've one lot who travelled from Elle (near Lancaster) to christen their later children at Chipping (a little way from Preston). The difficulty with this is that often two children are christened together, but may be a couple of years or more apart in age. Which, before 1837, can lead one astray re ages etc. cheers, Cassie On 07/07/2006, at 11:01 PM, Jan Fortado wrote: > This is a question that will not have an answer, but I am wondering > if anyone on this list has had a similar occurrence in their family. > > My family moved to Bolton from Stockport in 1871. They had children > born in 1872 and 1873 in Bolton but returned to Stockport to have > these two children baptized (a year later and several months later > for the 2nd child). They did not return to Stockport until 1876. > Their children were baptized in a Roman Catholic Church in Stockport. > > Does anyone have any idea why this familydid not have their > children baptized in Bolton? > > Thank you for any input. > > Jan > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D- > request@rootsweb.com> > To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:00 PM > Subject: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D Digest V06 #206 > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > For Family/Local History covering Bolton, Horwich, Farnworth, > Westhoughton and Turton. Please keep the messages coming. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and > friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/ > 2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Re Thomas Crompton. .A paper industry brought prosperity to the town. Thomas Bonsor Crompton patented a method of continuously drying papers in 1820 which was a significant breakthrough for the industry . Jacqui Kilcoyne

Hi Jan, I'd have thought that the wife and possibly her husband perhaps had a long-standing relationship with the church of her childhood as perhaps did one or both sets of grandparents. And perhaps the grandparents and other relatives and friends who would go to the ceremony would also be still living in Stockport. In that case, the travel and accommodation of one family would have been easier to organise and finance than that of several families. It's also not at all unknown for children to be born in the grandparent's home town in these situations because the mother has returned to her original home for the confinement to be in the care of her mother. Rgds, Bob Thornley, Bolton From: "Jan Fortado" <janfortado@comcast.net> > My family moved to Bolton from Stockport in 1871. They had children born > in 1872 and 1873 in Bolton but returned to Stockport to have these two > children baptized (a year later and several months later for the 2nd > child). They did not return to Stockport until 1876. Their children were > baptized in a Roman Catholic Church in Stockport. > Does anyone have any idea why this familydid not have their children > baptized in Bolton?

Money not available. I thought multiple baptisms were pretty much the norm in poor times. -----Original Message----- From: Jan Fortado [mailto:janfortado@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 9:02 AM To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] why would someone not have their children baptized in Bolton? This is a question that will not have an answer, but I am wondering if anyone on this list has had a similar occurrence in their family. My family moved to Bolton from Stockport in 1871. They had children born in 1872 and 1873 in Bolton but returned to Stockport to have these two children baptized (a year later and several months later for the 2nd child). They did not return to Stockport until 1876. Their children were baptized in a Roman Catholic Church in Stockport. Does anyone have any idea why this familydid not have their children baptized in Bolton? Thank you for any input. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:00 PM Subject: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D Digest V06 #206 ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== For Family/Local History covering Bolton, Horwich, Farnworth, Westhoughton and Turton. Please keep the messages coming. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

I have noticed that in Bolton Archives they have a collection of Crompton family history papers. These was collected by a Thomas CROMPTON. Apparently they were given to Bolton in 1986. But, they failed to keep a record of who this Thomas C. he himself gave them. Does anyone know who he was. I have not seen the collection and am only going from Bolton own index and a2a headings. Derek Crompton London South- East

This is a question that will not have an answer, but I am wondering if anyone on this list has had a similar occurrence in their family. My family moved to Bolton from Stockport in 1871. They had children born in 1872 and 1873 in Bolton but returned to Stockport to have these two children baptized (a year later and several months later for the 2nd child). They did not return to Stockport until 1876. Their children were baptized in a Roman Catholic Church in Stockport. Does anyone have any idea why this familydid not have their children baptized in Bolton? Thank you for any input. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:00 PM Subject: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-D Digest V06 #206

I did not realize that the Joseph Horrocks living in Lee Lane was the son of my g,g,g,grandfather John Ainsworth Horrocks - he was illigitimate and the John Ainsworth was the name of the said father, so I have no information about the Joseph's family after the 1861. Any help would be appreciated. Mag ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Briscoe" <mbriscoe@zetnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:01 PM Subject: RE: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Horrocks > Not having a lot of success in 1871 and 1881, I will have another look > later. > > Do you know any more about Joseph Horrocks and family after 1861? > > > Martin Briscoe > Fort William > M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Margaret Horrocks [mailto:mags70@tesco.net] > Sent: 06 July 2006 12:07 > To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Horrocks > > Is it too much to ask if you could find Joseph and family on the 1871 and > 1881 - my computer is refusing to take the discs, and they cannot be found > on the free census, Mag > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > > > > ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== > Bolton Metro - bolton@bolton.gov.uk > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Not having a lot of success in 1871 and 1881, I will have another look later. Do you know any more about Joseph Horrocks and family after 1861? Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Horrocks [mailto:mags70@tesco.net] Sent: 06 July 2006 12:07 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Horrocks Is it too much to ask if you could find Joseph and family on the 1871 and 1881 - my computer is refusing to take the discs, and they cannot be found on the free census, Mag ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ====

Is it too much to ask if you could find Joseph and family on the 1871 and 1881 - my computer is refusing to take the discs, and they cannot be found on the free census, Mag

Many. Many thanks, for finding Mark and Joseph Horrocks, I have found a death for a Mark age 55 in the June quarter of 1869 at Bolton. Now I can try to trace Joseph and family on the 1871 and 1881. Mag

Hi everyone, Have just added another piece to my web, i.e. the Obituary and details of the Memorial Fund for Dr. Fergus Ferguson, J.P. Mayor of Bolton 1866-67. Dr. Ferguson was tirelessly involved in promoting sanitary and other important improvements in the Borough, amongst which was the planning and inauguration of Queen's Park. The Obituary is quite lengthy, in keeping with the style of the day, so to make it more readable I have added paragraph headings. Apart from this the obit is quoted verbatim. URL is http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~boltongenealogy/ferguson.htm (To Luis S S Pennington - please check and let me know if any amendments need to be made). Valerie

Is this your Joseph Horrocks 1861 England Census Record about Joseph Horrocks Name: Joseph Horrocks Age: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1814 Relation: Head Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Horwich, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Horwich Ecclesiastical parish: Horwich County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: LEE LANE Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Source information: RG9/2814 Registration district: Bolton Sub-registration district: Horwich ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Folio: 38 Page: 8 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 38 GSU Number: 543033 Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Image Joseph Horrocks abt 1814 Horwich, Lancashire, England Head Horwich Lancashire Labourer Turnpike Road Ellen Horrocks abt 1825 Hexton, Lancashire, England Wife Horwich Lancashire I think that is born Heaton Ellen Horrocks abt 1858 Horwich, Lancashire, England Daughter Horwich Lancashire Elizabeth Horrocks abt 1860 Horwich, Lancashire, England Daughter Horwich Lancashire Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Horrocks [mailto:mags70@tesco.net] Sent: 06 July 2006 09:51 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Horrocks Could anyone find Mark Horrocks age approx. 45 born Horwich and Joseph Horrocks age approx.48 born Horwich on the 1861 cencus. I have them on the 1851 living at Gabrials Horwich ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then subscribe to the other. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

There is this Mark Horrocks in 1861 - still at Gabriel, Horwich 1861 England Census Record about Mark Horrocks Name: Mark Horrocks Age: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1814 Relation: Nephew Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Horwich, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Horwich Ecclesiastical parish: Horwich County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Source information: RG9/2814 Registration district: Bolton Sub-registration district: Horwich ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Folio: 48 Page: 27 Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Image William Horrocks abt 1810 Horwich, Lancashire, England Head Horwich Lancashire Farmer Mark Horrocks abt 1814 Horwich, Lancashire, England Nephew Horwich Lancashire Cotton Weaver Alice Horrocks abt 1791 Horwich, Lancashire, England Sister Horwich Lancashire Cotton Weaver Ann Horrocks abt 1801 Horwich, Lancashire, England Sister Horwich Lancashire House Keeper I will have a look for the other one Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Horrocks [mailto:mags70@tesco.net] Sent: 06 July 2006 09:51 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Horrocks Could anyone find Mark Horrocks age approx. 45 born Horwich and Joseph Horrocks age approx.48 born Horwich on the 1861 cencus. I have them on the 1851 living at Gabrials Horwich ==== ENG-LAN-BOLTON Mailing List ==== To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then subscribe to the other. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Could anyone find Mark Horrocks age approx. 45 born Horwich and Joseph Horrocks age approx.48 born Horwich on the 1861 cencus. I have them on the 1851 living at Gabrials Horwich