Carolyn, The online LDS Family History Library catalog shows they have information on a Hey in Lancashire. It appears to be associated with the village of Lees near Ashton-under-Lyne and Rochdale. Some of the data have been transcribed to the online IGI files in batch 01481-1. At 02:55 AM 9/8/2006, you wrote: >From: "Carolyn and Darryl" <dazwilson@bigpond.com> >Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] QUESTIONS. >To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> > >Hi, All, > >I feel quite ignorant asking the ff. Sorry! > >Could someone please tell me where Hey is? My ancestor Thomas >GARTSIDE married Mary KAY at St Peter's, Bolton in 1776 and their >children were chr. at St Peter's, Bolton, Turton and Hey. > >I've also found her called Mally at the burial of their son James in >1792 at Turton. Would that be a misspelling or a dimunitive? > >Also, could SKS please tell me what the occupation "whitster" was? > >Many thanks, > >Carolyn.

Hi Carolyn, Often place names in Lancashire are repeated in several areas. So Hey could be anywhere - there is one the other side of Oldham which is a good distance away. Perhaps you could give details of what records are at Hey. Old Occupations are at this website: http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/index.html See http://www.geocities.com/edgarbook/names/other/nicknames.html for naming. Cheers, Sharon -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn and Darryl Sent: Friday, 8 September 2006 1:09 PM To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] QUESTIONS. Hi, All, I feel quite ignorant asking the ff. Sorry! Could someone please tell me where Hey is? My ancestor Thomas GARTSIDE married Mary KAY at St Peter's, Bolton in 1776 and their children were chr. at St Peter's, Bolton, Turton and Hey. I've also found her called Mally at the burial of their son James in 1792 at Turton. Would that be a misspelling or a dimunitive? Also, could SKS please tell me what the occupation "whitster" was? Many thanks, Carolyn. P.S. Sharon: I live in a country town of N.S.W. Australia with no LDS Church. That's why I can't order in films and ask so many (probably) stupid questions of all you kind Listers. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

NSW family history centres can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/h4l2f Since there are 34 of them, hopefully there will be one in visiting distance. To all listers, I must say visiting one of these Latter Day Saints Family History Centres is very worthwhile for your family tree. The Mormon members will not broach the subject of their religion with you, so there is no need to feel threatened. The access is to information is huge and the expertise in the volunteers who run the centre and also the visitors is a resource well worth the time and effort. Cheers, Sharon -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn and Darryl Sent: Friday, 8 September 2006 1:09 PM To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] QUESTIONS. <smipped> P.S. Sharon: I live in a country town of N.S.W. Australia with no LDS Church. That's why I can't order in films and ask so many (probably) stupid questions of all you kind Listers.

Hi, All, I feel quite ignorant asking the ff. Sorry! Could someone please tell me where Hey is? My ancestor Thomas GARTSIDE married Mary KAY at St Peter's, Bolton in 1776 and their children were chr. at St Peter's, Bolton, Turton and Hey. I've also found her called Mally at the burial of their son James in 1792 at Turton. Would that be a misspelling or a dimunitive? Also, could SKS please tell me what the occupation "whitster" was? Many thanks, Carolyn. P.S. Sharon: I live in a country town of N.S.W. Australia with no LDS Church. That's why I can't order in films and ask so many (probably) stupid questions of all you kind Listers.

Thanks Paul- I know he was in there in 1881 but not when he was admitted so I guess I work back from there! Barbara

thanks Martin- will follow up.

thanks Valerie- will follow up.

Hello, Today is the turn of Church of the Holy Infant The Astley Bridge Mission, that of the Holy Infant and St. Anthony, made an effective display. Schools to the number of 600 were led by the Rev. A M VANTOMME, rector, who was accompanied by Messrs W GILLETT, C HARDMAN and other laity. Headed by a brass band, the leading banner was steered by a number of young women in green voile. The May Queen was Miss ANNIE BAMFORD, and she was supported by a bodyguard and maids of honour. The Sacred Heart banner was steered by a number of girls and boys of the Guild of St. Aloysius. The ex-queen was Miss GERTRUDE WINSTANLEY with train bearers, who was accompanied by the Holy Family and the Men of the Union, with suitable banners. Valerie

Hi Could it be Haigh (pronounced Hey) near Wigan? Pamela -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/441 - Release Date: 07/09/2006

Try a search here (http://www.gazetteer.co.uk/), it will list places with "HEY" in the place name. Though as been written it is probably a common local name for small areas that will not appear in the gazetteer. If you have Ancestry then do a search on all censuses for people born in Hey, Lancashire. Most will be living near their places of birth so might show up a suitable location. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn and Darryl Sent: 08 September 2006 06:09 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] QUESTIONS. Hi, All, I feel quite ignorant asking the ff. Sorry! Could someone please tell me where Hey is?

Thank you for offering to check the Archives, Valerie. This is very much appreciated. As to Mary Elizabeth - this is puzzling. Her name is on the birth certificate of her first child and she definitely existed - her sisters (now unfortunately passed away) mentioned her. Perhaps she was actually registered with a different name. Hmmm. I shall investigate variations on a theme! Sue Tomkins

Dan That sounds very interesting. I'd be grateful if you could let me have the full reference and a comment on the sort of material it contains. I am particularly interested in your comment that ir contains coroners reports. Regards Peter At 14:12 6/09/2006 +0100, you wrote: >Howdo Peter >I was in Farnworth library yesterday and I say a book re Pretoria pit in fre >section of local history. I had a quick look and it seemed to give long >lists of people and the coroners reports, I will call in tommorrow and have >a good look at it >Dan >

Hi Sue, I too have an O'Hara name on my list. Michael O'Hara married Martha GLEDHILL some time after 1901 (Marriage still to be found) Martha was the daughter of John Gledhill & Mary Calderley. In the early hours of Sept 26, 1916, a German Zeppelin came over Bolton and dropped a salvo of five bombs into Kirk and John Streets. 13 people were killed, including Michael age 42 and Martha age 40 of 60, Kirk St. On Sept. 30th.they were buried together in the same grave as Martha's parents. I have not found Michael on any census as yet, but now you have brought up the name, I will renew my efforts. Thanks Sue Regards from Ottawa Joan

I was looking at the Admissions records only the other week. As I recall they give the following details: - Name of inmate by date of admission (As Martin has said they're not name indexed so you need a reasonable estimate of date of admission to find anyone specifically) and age. Families are grouped together. - Dietary classification of inmate in a table next to the name - I don't know what the 6 or so classifications mean though I suspect they are related to the gender and age of the inmate. - A number which was attached to the clothes of the inmate (not the number of items I assume as some were quite large numbers in the hundreds, but simply a recognition code I presume). - I think they recorded the township from where the inmate came - Finally, a description of the "reason for poor relief" Each page relates to admissions in a particular week, so some are quite crowded whilst other pages have relatively few records. The pages are chronologically arranged, denoted by the number of the week in a biannual system, I think starting in January and July. The records appear to be in good condition. If you look at the entry which coincides with the opening of Fishpool (Sept 1861 I think), you'll find a list of admissions several pages long. This presumably is the list of inmates transferred from Fletcher Street and Goose Cote Farm workhouses on the opening of Fishpool. Unfortunately, no details as above but effectively an index of the hundreds of inmates getting poor relief from the Bolton Union at that specific time. The Bolton Chronicle at the time published a regular report from the Guardians of the Bolton Union about the finances, conditions and events in the workhouse, which makes fascinating reading. Paul -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of BARBARA WINDER Sent: 07 September 2006 11:41 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Bolton Workhouse Found a relative GEORGE GILLER living there in 1881 census as an old man. Anyone know if there's records on the inmates at Bolton Archives and what details they might give? Thanks, Barbara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.0/439 - Release Date: 06/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.0/439 - Release Date: 06/09/2006

When was it demolished? Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS

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This piece describes St. Edmund's participation in the procession. St. Edmunds 1200 supporters of St. Edmund's assembled, the Very Rev. Dean AVERDONK (rector) being at the head, accompanied by the Rev. P WREN. In the forefront the principal laymen also walked including Councillors D MAGINNIS, J P and W CARR, Messrs. J CALLAGHAN, J FEARNHEAD, J ROTHWELL, P DUNLEVY, C DUKE, JAMES DUFFY, M DUFFY, T VANSTON and W ECKERSLEY. Messrs. TWIST, ASHTON, CALDERBANK and MATHER marshalled the procession, which was headed by the Bolton Military Band, behind which came the banner of St. Edmund, guided by Misses ROBERTS, PARKINSON, PHILBURN, BYRON, HOWARTH, BADES, KENNY, SMITH, McCORMICK and TIERNEY. Attired in a Prince Charming suit Master HERMAN MORRIS made a brave herald, and the May Queen, Miss ANNIE DORRIAN CONWAY, was dressed in broche silk and Honiton lace, the train being caught with bunches of forget-me-nots. Misses M COOPER, L CRADDOCK, M McDONALD and A HEALY bore the train, and the Queen was attended by 10 maids of honour, in silk dresses with wreaths and wands, and guarded by a body of boys with spears adorned with lilies. The banner of the Holy Family, steered by Misses CROOK, NEARY, CATON, KEATING, KENNY, BROWN, SANDHAM, and L KENNY preceded Miss NELLIE DUNN, the ex-Queen, whose train-bearers were Masters J DUNLEAVY, A RICE, J CONNOLLY and J CROSSLEY. The herald, Master T BURKE wore a Napoleon suit, and the bodyguard were in gold plush. The rear portion comprised the Confraternities of the Holy Family (Women's Branch) and the Men's Branch of the Holy Family, the banner being guided by Misses DUKE, BAXENDALE, CLARKE, BADE, SMITH, McDERMOTT, HEALY and G SMITH. Valerie

Greetings to All, Researching all day so far and brain is spinning! I just thought I'd let you all know my tree so far. My Grandparents: Henry Stanley GARTHSIDE b. 1870, Bolton m Annie BLACKBURN b. 1869, Bolton at St Luke's Church, Mosman, Sydney 1902. My Great Grandparents: Thomas WALLWORK BLACKBURN chr 18842 m. Elizabeth WARBURTON chr. abt 1842, Bolton 1867. Robert GARTHSIDE chr. 1840 m. 1. Nancy WALKER (d 1868) 2. Mary PARKINSON (chr. 1840) 1869 Manchester Cathedral Great Great Grandparents: John BLACKBURN b. 1810 m. Ann WALLWORK, chr. 1811, 1839, Bolton. Adam GARTHSIDE chr 1811 m. Mary PEERS/PEARCE chr 1811, 1834, St Mary's Radcliffe. G.G.G.Grandparents: William BLACKBURN chr. 1786 & Sarah WALLWORK chr. 1786 m. 1804, St Peter's, Bolton. John WALLWORK chr. 1776& Jane ATKINSON m. 1808 St Peter's, Bolton. Adam GARTHSIDE chr. 1771, m. Mary ENTWISTLE 1803, St Peter's, Bolton G.G.G.G.Grandparents: Richard WALLWORK chr. 1744, St Peter's Bolton m. 1771 St Peter's Ann MOSCROP, chr. 1751 St Peter's. John GARTHSIDE chr. 1734 Turton m. 1. Alice ? (died after 1760) 2. Elizabeth BROOKS chr c. 1735 Turton m. 1764 St Peter's, Bolton. G.G.G.G.G. Grandparents: Elias WALLWORK m. Ann ENTWISLE 1739 St Peter's, Bolton. John MOSCROP m. Ann WALLWORK 1740 St Peter's, Bolton. James GARTHSIDE chr ? m. 1730, St Peter's, Bolton, Jane ISHERWOOD (chr. c. 1709). Truly I cannot imagine how they didn't trip over each other in the aisles at marriages and baptisms.!!! I'd love to know more, but that's as far as I have been able to go. Best wishes, Carolyn. Australia.

I had a look a few years ago, they look potentially very useful but they are not indexed (now that would be a useful project for someone!). Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Valerie Sent: 07 September 2006 14:01 To: eng-lan-bolton@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Bolton Workhouse Hi Barbara, You wrote < Anyone know if there's records on the inmates at Bolton Archives and what details they might give?> Bolton Archives hold registers for Fishpool for Admissions 1861-1948, Births 1861-1926, Burials 1905-1908, Deaths 1866-1941, and Discharges 1861-1948. I have never looked at these records myself, so can't give any details. Cheers, Valerie

Hi Barbara, You wrote < Anyone know if there's records on the inmates at Bolton Archives and what details they might give?> Bolton Archives hold registers for Fishpool for Admissions 1861-1948, Births 1861-1926, Burials 1905-1908, Deaths 1866-1941, and Discharges 1861-1948. I have never looked at these records myself, so can't give any details. Cheers, Valerie