To all the folks who replied to my offer, this is a paper copy which I am giving/sending by post, and I only want the price of the postage. I am not offering look-ups. The first reply I get who wants it can have it. Pamela

Hi Tina, These are the churches within, roughly, 1 mile radius of Swan Lane. Church of England Emmanuel St. Mark's St. George the Martyr St. Mary's, Deane Non Conformist Fletcher St Methodist Grecian Crescent Victoria Methodist Slaterfield Methodist Unity, Deane Rd (Unitarian) Roman Catholic SS Peter & Paul (Pilkington St.) HTH Valerie -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-bolton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of C Port Sent: 10 September 2006 21:03 To: eng-lan-bolton@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Swan Lane Hi Valerie, Probably early 1900's for the churches near Swan Lane. Probably Church of England but am willing to check out everything else. Thanks Tina ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would love it, but I am sure I am not the first ----- Original Message ----- Ree Sixsmith From: "P McElhinney" <paj@mcelhinney.info> To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:42 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Deane Register To all the folks who replied to my offer, this is a paper copy which I am giving/sending by post, and I only want the price of the postage. I am not offering look-ups. The first reply I get who wants it can have it. Pamela

Tina, there's a website called "boltonchurch.net" which lists and gives details of a number of churches in Bolton. It looks like the nearest to Swan lane is St Paul & Emannuel which is across the main road off Cannon street. In the old-maps website which shows Bolton in about 1850 the Church is called Emannuel. Hope this helps, Graham Dickinson in Bury

Hi All Just to let you know my grandfathers cousins John & James Livsey (aged 15 & 17) both died in the Pretoria Pit and also my gt grandmothers brother William Gore also died in the pit disaster 21st December 1910 If you need any further info I have the Compensation papers of both familes and Postcards (Original) from 1910 which you may copy and use in your research. I also have an original 'napkin' which was issued to all the families. Again you can copy. Please let me know if I can be of further help. I have researched Pretoria for a number of years now and if I can be of any assistance, please let me know. Kind regards Andrea

I would be grateful if SKS could find Michael O'HARA in 1901 please. His age is given as 42 in 1916. Date of birth about 1874. I have checked my Bolton index for 1891 and he is not there. I also checked 1881, without success. Thank you Regards from Ottawa Joan

Hi All Just to let you know my grandfathers cousins John & James Livsey (aged 15 & 17) in the Pretoria Pit and also my gt grandmothers brother William Gore also died in the pit disaster 21st December 1919 If you need any further info I have the Compensation papers of both familes and Postcards (Original) from 1910 which you may copy and use in your research. I also have an original 'napkin' which was issued to all the families. Again you can copy. Please let me know if I can be of further help. I have researched Pretoria for a number of years now and if I can be of any assistance, please let me know. Kind regards Andrea

My brother and I have been researching a Pickering family with limited success. William Pickering (our GGG Grandfather) married Ann Bettley in Paris in 1830 in the British Embassy Chapel. William's marriage information indicates that he was from Bolton. William, and his brother John, worked as iron moulders in Rouen during the 1830's. Information gleaned from the Rouen birth records of their children indicate that William was born in 1807 and John in 1803. Another John Pickering (age 66 in 1837) was a witness at the birth of one of the children and we suspect that he was the grandfather. In reviewing the Lancashire OPR we cannot find records for John and William with the correct birth dates and a father, John, who was born about 1771. We are interested in establishing who their parents and grandparents were. Can anyone offer any information that would be helpful? Thanks, Bob Houston, Texas

Hi Elizabeth, You wrote <I would like to know when the cotton slump was> The Lancashire cotton industry started to go into terminal decline in the early 1920's due to a combination of lack of investment in modern equipment, and stiff competition from Far Eastern countries, notably Japan. I would think it likely that Violet's family would have emigrated sometime between the Wars. < I am trying to fit the above people into my family tree. Violet was my father's cousin and worked for my grandparents in a small bakery in Watt Street, Bolton. I'm not sure which side of my father's family she belonged to so her maiden name could be ALDRED or SMITH.> Have you checked the 1901 for Violet? There is a Violet Aldred listed as being 7 years old, born Walkden. Valerie

Hi Carolyn, You wrote < My Gx 5/6/7(?)Grandfather was John GARSIDE (of Quarlton "w. Lancaster") Farmer. chr at St Peter's, Bolton 10 Feb, 1734; d 19 Nov and was buried at St Anne's, Turton, 22 Nov, 1793 aged 59. (Will dated 5 Nov, 1793, proved at Chester 6 Sep, 1794 & 27 May, 1816. Effects under 50 pounds.) He was 1st married to an "ALCE" ?. Could some kind soul please tell me how I would find out Alice's maiden name> I've checked the Marriages for St. Peter's for John and Alice from 1752-54 but have not found it there. St. Annes do have marriages but only from 1720-1731, and copy marriages from 1856-1911, which unfortunately do not cover the period you are searching for. Valerie

Thank you to all who helped me in this regard. On the 1881 census I have found Edward Aldred Violet's father with his parents and brother living on Bolton Road, Worsley. On the same street I have found a WALLWORK family with a son Thomas. It all seems to fit. I still haven't traced them in Canada however. Thanks again Elizabeth

Thank you Charles and Linda. I think this is the family I'm looking for. Edward Aldred coming from Suffolk is right. His father's name was Robert and on the 1901 census I have a Robert listed as uncle to my grandparents. Thank you again. Elizabeth ewright@wwdc.com

Hi, Elizabeth, There is a Thomas WALLWORK who married Violet TWEEDALE in the December Qaurter of 1911 at Rochdale (from FreeBMD). Any help? Carolyn. Australia.

Hi, Elizabeth and Cassie, My Grandmother's ancestors were WALLWORK and BLACKBURN. All from Bolton for yonks. Annie BLACKBURN b. 1869 was the daughter of Thomas WALLWORK BLACKBURN and Elizabeth WARBURTON. Any help? Carolyn. Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cassie Thornley" <cassethor@ozemail.com.au> To: "John and Elizabeth Wright" <ewright@wwdc.com>; <eng-lan-bolton@rootsweb.com> >> I would like to know when the cotton slump was and if anyone knows >> anything about the WALLWORK family.

Some of you may have gathered that the Westhoughton (Howfen) Local History Group and I are working to put together an online resource with details of the 344 victims of the Pretoria Pit disaster of 21 Dec 1910. We intend it will be on the Westhoughton LAN-OPC site before December. I have just finished a first version of the personal documentation file for the men and boys, and I thought this would be a good time to give public thanks to the multitude of people who have helped us so far - many of course being members of the Bolton and Lancsgen lists. I won't name you all here, but the acknowledgements section of the presentation will be a long one! We are still gathering data, and I'm waiting with some trepidation for what Dan Seddon will tell us he's found in Farnworth library. One general request I'd like to make is to anyone who might be looking for family memorials in graveyards in the South Bolton-Over/Middle/Little Hulton-Walkden area (but not Deane), and come across a Pretoria Pit/Hulton Colliery one, or one that has a male burial with the 21 Dec 1910 death date, then please let us know. I suspect many of the 25 burials we haven't yet found will be in that area. And finally I'd like to give a welcome to Yvonne Woolley, who I know has just joined the Bolton List, and the Howfen Local History Group, and is keen to work on the Pretoria Project. Peter Wood

Hi all, I think that St Phillips could be added to your list I believe it was started arouind the 1900 but their registers have not as yet been given up to the archives. Arthur Clemmett

1901 Census RG13/3653 180 Walkden Road, Walkden, Worsley, St Pauls Edward Aldred / Head / M / 38 / Coal Miner - Hewer / Suffolk Sarah J do / Wife / M / 34 / -- / Lancs Walkden Leah do / Daur / 16 / Reeler Cotton Mill / do do Emily do / Daur / 14 / Gaiter Cotton Mill / do do Herbert do / Son / 11 / -- / do do Bertha do / Daur / 9 / -- / do do Violet do / Daur / 7 / -- / do do

Hi Andrea, I know it's some time ago since you sent this message, and I'm afraid I haven't been able to find out anything more about Willows Mount. However, I have found two pictures of Brownlow Road, taken 1919, if you're interested. Valerie -----Original Message----- From: Andreafinney@aol.com [mailto:Andreafinney@aol.com] Sent: 19 February 2006 16:55 To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Willows Mount Browlnlow Road Horwich Hi All Does anyone know if there was a Willows Mount (Possibly a poultry Farm ??? but guessing ) on Brownlow Road, Horwich approx 1940's. Any help would be appreciated. Kind regards Andrea

Hi Elizabeth, the 'cotton famine' was in the 1860s, it was a result of the American Civil War. good hunting, Cassie On 11/09/2006, at 3:03 AM, John and Elizabeth Wright wrote: > Hello List > > I am trying to fit the above people into my family tree. Violet > was my father's cousin and worked for my grandparents in a small > bakery in Watt Street, Bolton. I'm not sure which side of my > father's family she belonged to so her maiden name could be ALDRED > or SMITH. My cousin favours ALDRED. Tom & Violet had two daughters > Alwyn and Vera. The family emigrated to Canada during the > Lancashire Cotton Slump but I don't know when that was except it > was prior to WW II. In the 1930s my grandparent had a bakery in > Newhall (Newall) Lane, Bolton and another in Ashworth Lane, Astley > Bridge, Bolton. My parents Ivy (KILLCROSS) and Arthur ALDRED > subsequently took over the shop in Ashworth Lane they sold it in 1951. > > I would like to know when the cotton slump was and if anyone knows > anything about the WALLWORK family. > > I met Violet in the 1950s when she visited England and again in > 1967 or so when I came to Canada. Oh how I wish I'd been > interested in genealogy then! > > Elizabeth > ewright@wwdc.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN- > BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Valerie, Probably early 1900's for the churches near Swan Lane. Probably Church of England but am willing to check out everything else. Thanks Tina