Thanks for this Valerie. Now the mystery deepens because Robert Mann was my great grandfather! So this is a residence I knew nothing about! I have found it on my Ordnance survey map from 1910. Anne in Victoria BC. Thanks also for looking up William Syddall's baptism. We think we have found him in Radcliffe (of all places). ----- Original Message ----- From: <eng-lan-bolton-request@rootsweb.com> To: <eng-lan-bolton@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 12:15 AM Subject: ENG-LAN-BOLTON Digest, Vol 1, Issue 20 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. WALKER, PARKINSON and GARTHSIDE. (Carolyn and Darryl) > 2. Re: WALTER STREET (Valerie) > 3. Re: George Hart (Valerie) > 4. Re: Baptism - William Sydall (Valerie) > 5. Re: PRETORIA Harold Pendlebury. (Stuart Ashton) > 6. Re: PRETORIA Harold Pendlebury. (Peter Wood) > 7. Re: PRETORIA Harold Pendlebury. (Stuart Ashton) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:46:41 +1000 > From: "Carolyn and Darryl" <dazwilson@bigpond.com> > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] WALKER, PARKINSON and GARTHSIDE. > To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002101c6d708$c1050640$96ef8690@acer86e9bf2e61> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, All, > > My Great Grandfather, Robert GARTHSIDE married twice: > > 1. 1863, Jun Quarter to Nancy WALKER (dau. of James WALKER and Betty) (she > died June Quarter, 1868). > + Adam WALKER GARTHSIDE (b abt 1864, Bolton (living with WALKER > grandparents in 1871 Census, courtesy of Valerie) > + Elizabeth GARTHSIDE.(born Jun Quarter, 1865, Bolton.) > > 2. 1869, Sep Quarter, Bolton to Mary PARKINSON (chr. about 1840, > Manchester Cathedral to Henry PARKINSON and Sarah) > + .Henry Stanley GARTHSIDE b. abt 1870 > + Annie PEERS GARTHSIDE b. abt 1871/2 > > Does anyone have any information relating to the above? > > Best wishes, > > Carolyn. > > P.S. Thank you, Glen for your Census. I have no idea who whey are. Sorry. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:39:44 +0100 > From: "Valerie" <v.lirakis@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] WALTER STREET > To: <eng-lan-bolton@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000d01c6d731$b1cc3f80$fead1b52@VLirakis> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Anne, > > You wrote <Does anyone know where Walter Street was in Bolton in 1913? My > great >> grandfather died at 32 Walter Street, but that was not where he lived. I >> wondered if it was a hospital of some kind?He died of throat cancer. >> Anne in Victoria BC> > > Sorry it's taken me so long to reply to this one. However, I managed to > get > to the Archives today and found that the occupant of No. 32 Walter Street > in > the 1913 Electoral List (compiled the previous autumn) was ROBERT MANN. > The > building was listed as a house. > > Walter Street is/was in the Derby Street area of Bolton. > > Cheers, > Valerie > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:45:23 +0100 > From: "Valerie" <v.lirakis@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] George Hart > To: <eng-lan-bolton@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000e01c6d732$7c01b0a0$fead1b52@VLirakis> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Barbara, > > > > I managed to get to the Archives today and looked up the marriage of > George > Hart and Betty Rostron. Unfortunately the entry in the register did not > give any more information than the transcription. It merely said that > both > parties were 'of this parish'. > > > > There was no occupation given, and the witnesses were parish clerks. Both > parties signed with their mark. > > > > HTH > > Valerie > > > > _____ > > From: Barbara Forsey [mailto:forsey@socal.rr.com] > Sent: 11 September 2006 01:45 > To: v.lirakis@ntlworld.com > Subject: George Hart > > > > Hi Valerie, > > I would be grateful if you could look up George Hart for me when you can. > I am also trying to find his death info. I suspect he died prior to the > 1841 census. Let me know if you could look it up for me. > > Thanks, > > Barbara > > Los Angeles, Ca > > > > > > Hi Barbara, > > You wrote <Could someone look up the marriage record of George Hart > married > Betty Rostron 1st Jan 1822 at St Peter, Bolton Le Moors (IGI).> > > I have the indexes of St.Peter's marriages and can confirm that George > Hart > married Betty Rostron (Rosthorn on the transcription) in 1822. > Unfortunately > these indexes do not give any more information. > > You wrote <Can I order a certificate from the Church?>. I would doubt > this. > > You wrote <I am interested in place of birth and names of parents.> > > The actual marriage records for this period do not normally give place of > birth (only the parish), and do not give names of parents. The only other > information you are likely to get are names of witnesses, and occupation > of > groom. > > I could look up this marriage record next time I go to the Archives, which > are closed at the moment for stocktaking. > > Valerie > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:49:56 +0100 > From: "Valerie" <v.lirakis@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Baptism - William Sydall > To: <eng-lan-bolton@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <001301c6d733$1eb7e530$fead1b52@VLirakis> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Anne, > > I don't know how long ago it was you requested this information, but I > left > a note in my action file, which I don't think I have responded to. > > I searched the years 1795-7 for William, but didn't find him at St. > Peters. > > Valerie > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:56:40 +0100 > From: Stuart Ashton <stuart@the-ashtons.com> > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] PRETORIA Harold Pendlebury. > To: eng-lan-bolton@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <45082A38.2060605@the-ashtons.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Thank you Peter, I would definitely be interested in the data you have > from Trevor. Perhaps you can send it off-list. > > To fill in a couple of gaps in your data: > > Harold PENDLEBURY > > Born 9 Dec 1894 at 674 Hindley Road, Westhoughton > > In the 1901 census he was living at 73 Manchester Road, Westhoughton > > I wasn't aware of the 2 youngest siblings Annie and Maggie, that's 2 > extra for my tree. > > Sydney, Harold's brother is my great grandfather. I have records of our > family living in 16 Seddon Street from 1932 to 1972. > > Best regards, > Stuart > > > Peter Wood wrote: >> Hello Stuart >> >> Here is the data we have on Harold Pendlebury at the moment. The numbers >> and abbreviations are cryptic, but there will be an explanatory text >> along >> with the data set. I also have a lot of compensation/insurance data that >> has been kindly provided by Trevor Griffiths at Edinburgh University. >> Trevor used Pretoria compensation data and the extensive documented >> family >> follow-up reports through the life of the relief funds, for his DPhil (I >> think it was) thesis on the socio-economic impacts of the disaster. I >> have >> not added these data to the individual sheets. We are also recording any >> details of the men's lives, such as sports involvements and so on. >> >> If you have anything to add to Harold Pendlebury's file we would welcome >> it. MI means we have a record of the inscription on his gravestone, and >> MI >> will be linked through to a separate MI data file, which Pam Clarke is >> preparing. >> >> Regards >> Peter Wood >> >> PENDLEBURY Harold >> Age 16. 1 Croft Street, Wingates, Westhoughton. Haulage Hand. >> Born in Westhoughton birth registered Bolton 4th Q 1894. >> No.270. Body position 84. Tally 1165. >> Recovered 27 Dec 1910 from North Plodder District No.1 Face: in brow 8 >> yards from face. Identified by John Pendlebury (father). >> Cause of death: CO. Burnt. >> Buried: St John, Wingates, Westhoughton. MI. >> Death registration: Bolton Registry 1911 HOR/33/115. GRO 1911 1st Quarter >> Bolton 8c 276. >> Family at home: Parents John 36 and Margaret Ada 36; Siblings Sidney 14, >> Frank 13, Richard Stanley 11, Ivy 9, Annie 2, Maggie 7m. >> Notes: Member of L&CMPRS. >> Variants: Address later given as 16 Seddon Street, Westhoughton. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 08:25:27 +1200 > From: Peter Wood <st.peter@paradise.net.nz> > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] PRETORIA Harold Pendlebury. > To: eng-lan-bolton@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20060914082527.01402a38@pop3.paradise.net.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Thanks Stuart > > I haven't yet received the Pendlebury data. I'll let you have them, though > being a young lad he may not have had any personal insurance. A payment of > ?15 was made from the Lancashire & Cheshire Miners Permanent Relief > Society. > > Regards > Peter > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:04:04 +0100 > From: Stuart Ashton <stuart@the-ashtons.com> > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] PRETORIA Harold Pendlebury. > To: eng-lan-bolton@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <45087244.9030504@the-ashtons.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Thank you Peter, that's very interesting. > > Good luck with your further research. > > Regards, > Stuart > > Peter Wood wrote: >> Thanks Stuart >> >> I haven't yet received the Pendlebury data. I'll let you have them, >> though >> being a young lad he may not have had any personal insurance. A payment >> of >> ?15 was made from the Lancashire & Cheshire Miners Permanent Relief >> Society. >> >> Regards >> Peter >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-LAN-BOLTON list administrator, send an email to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-LAN-BOLTON mailing list, send an email to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-LAN-BOLTON Digest, Vol 1, Issue 20 > ********************************************* >

Hi Mags and Valerie Thanks for your help - Any further info will be greatly appreciated, My Gt Uncle Harry Robinson worked there when he was just a lad - he is now 85 and moved to Australia in the 1950's. Valerie the old photographs of Brownlow road will be most welcoming, even if they do not show the Chicken Farm. I'm sure he will be very grateful. It will make an old man very happy !!! Thanks and regards Andrea

Hi, I saw an old school friend yesterday, and she worked at the chicken farm in the late 1940's She says it was opposite Bank Meadow a Mr and Mrs Arstall lived there, they had no children. If you would like more information, I will ask her. She is not on the internet. Mag > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Valerie" <v.lirakis@ntlworld.com> > To: <ENG-LAN-BOLTON@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:57 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Willows Mount Brownlow Road Horwich > > >> Hi Andrea, >> >> I know it's some time ago since you sent this message, and I'm afraid I >> haven't been able to find out anything more about Willows Mount. >> However, I >> have found two pictures of Brown Road, taken 1919, if you're interested. >> >> Valerie >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Andreafinney@aol.com [mailto:Andreafinney@aol.com] >> Sent: 19 February 2006 16:55 >> To: ENG-LAN-BOLTON-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Willows Mount Brown Road Horwich >> >> >> Hi All >> >> Does anyone know if there was a Willows Mount (Possibly a poultry Farm >> ??? >> but guessing ) on Brownlow Road, Horwich approx 1940's. >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Kind regards >> Andrea >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >

Thanks Stuart I haven't yet received the Pendlebury data. I'll let you have them, though being a young lad he may not have had any personal insurance. A payment of £15 was made from the Lancashire & Cheshire Miners Permanent Relief Society. Regards Peter

Thank you Peter, that's very interesting. Good luck with your further research. Regards, Stuart Peter Wood wrote: > Thanks Stuart > > I haven't yet received the Pendlebury data. I'll let you have them, though > being a young lad he may not have had any personal insurance. A payment of > £15 was made from the Lancashire & Cheshire Miners Permanent Relief Society. > > Regards > Peter > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I would be interested in the answer to this question. Please post to list. Gracie New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barrow" <paul@pbarrow.demon.co.uk> To: "Bolton Mail List" <eng-lan-bolton@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:43 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Farnworth Schools > Does anyone have a complete list of the names and addresses of Elementary > Schools in the Farnworth area circa 1880 > Paul > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/445 - Release Date: 11/09/2006 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, All, My Great Grandfather, Robert GARTHSIDE married twice: 1. 1863, Jun Quarter to Nancy WALKER (dau. of James WALKER and Betty) (she died June Quarter, 1868). + Adam WALKER GARTHSIDE (b abt 1864, Bolton (living with WALKER grandparents in 1871 Census, courtesy of Valerie) + Elizabeth GARTHSIDE.(born Jun Quarter, 1865, Bolton.) 2. 1869, Sep Quarter, Bolton to Mary PARKINSON (chr. about 1840, Manchester Cathedral to Henry PARKINSON and Sarah) + .Henry Stanley GARTHSIDE b. abt 1870 + Annie PEERS GARTHSIDE b. abt 1871/2 Does anyone have any information relating to the above? Best wishes, Carolyn. P.S. Thank you, Glen for your Census. I have no idea who whey are. Sorry.

Thank you Peter, I would definitely be interested in the data you have from Trevor. Perhaps you can send it off-list. To fill in a couple of gaps in your data: Harold PENDLEBURY Born 9 Dec 1894 at 674 Hindley Road, Westhoughton In the 1901 census he was living at 73 Manchester Road, Westhoughton I wasn't aware of the 2 youngest siblings Annie and Maggie, that's 2 extra for my tree. Sydney, Harold's brother is my great grandfather. I have records of our family living in 16 Seddon Street from 1932 to 1972. Best regards, Stuart Peter Wood wrote: > Hello Stuart > > Here is the data we have on Harold Pendlebury at the moment. The numbers > and abbreviations are cryptic, but there will be an explanatory text along > with the data set. I also have a lot of compensation/insurance data that > has been kindly provided by Trevor Griffiths at Edinburgh University. > Trevor used Pretoria compensation data and the extensive documented family > follow-up reports through the life of the relief funds, for his DPhil (I > think it was) thesis on the socio-economic impacts of the disaster. I have > not added these data to the individual sheets. We are also recording any > details of the men's lives, such as sports involvements and so on. > > If you have anything to add to Harold Pendlebury's file we would welcome > it. MI means we have a record of the inscription on his gravestone, and MI > will be linked through to a separate MI data file, which Pam Clarke is > preparing. > > Regards > Peter Wood > > PENDLEBURY Harold > Age 16. 1 Croft Street, Wingates, Westhoughton. Haulage Hand. > Born in Westhoughton birth registered Bolton 4th Q 1894. > No.270. Body position 84. Tally 1165. > Recovered 27 Dec 1910 from North Plodder District No.1 Face: in brow 8 > yards from face. Identified by John Pendlebury (father). > Cause of death: CO. Burnt. > Buried: St John, Wingates, Westhoughton. MI. > Death registration: Bolton Registry 1911 HOR/33/115. GRO 1911 1st Quarter > Bolton 8c 276. > Family at home: Parents John 36 and Margaret Ada 36; Siblings Sidney 14, > Frank 13, Richard Stanley 11, Ivy 9, Annie 2, Maggie 7m. > Notes: Member of L&CMPRS. > Variants: Address later given as 16 Seddon Street, Westhoughton. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Anne, I don't know how long ago it was you requested this information, but I left a note in my action file, which I don't think I have responded to. I searched the years 1795-7 for William, but didn't find him at St. Peters. Valerie

Hi Barbara, I managed to get to the Archives today and looked up the marriage of George Hart and Betty Rostron. Unfortunately the entry in the register did not give any more information than the transcription. It merely said that both parties were 'of this parish'. There was no occupation given, and the witnesses were parish clerks. Both parties signed with their mark. HTH Valerie _____ From: Barbara Forsey [mailto:forsey@socal.rr.com] Sent: 11 September 2006 01:45 To: v.lirakis@ntlworld.com Subject: George Hart Hi Valerie, I would be grateful if you could look up George Hart for me when you can. I am also trying to find his death info. I suspect he died prior to the 1841 census. Let me know if you could look it up for me. Thanks, Barbara Los Angeles, Ca Hi Barbara, You wrote <Could someone look up the marriage record of George Hart married Betty Rostron 1st Jan 1822 at St Peter, Bolton Le Moors (IGI).> I have the indexes of St.Peter's marriages and can confirm that George Hart married Betty Rostron (Rosthorn on the transcription) in 1822. Unfortunately these indexes do not give any more information. You wrote <Can I order a certificate from the Church?>. I would doubt this. You wrote <I am interested in place of birth and names of parents.> The actual marriage records for this period do not normally give place of birth (only the parish), and do not give names of parents. The only other information you are likely to get are names of witnesses, and occupation of groom. I could look up this marriage record next time I go to the Archives, which are closed at the moment for stocktaking. Valerie

Hi Anne, You wrote <Does anyone know where Walter Street was in Bolton in 1913? My great > grandfather died at 32 Walter Street, but that was not where he lived. I > wondered if it was a hospital of some kind?He died of throat cancer. > Anne in Victoria BC> Sorry it's taken me so long to reply to this one. However, I managed to get to the Archives today and found that the occupant of No. 32 Walter Street in the 1913 Electoral List (compiled the previous autumn) was ROBERT MANN. The building was listed as a house. Walter Street is/was in the Derby Street area of Bolton. Cheers, Valerie

Hello Stuart Here is the data we have on Harold Pendlebury at the moment. The numbers and abbreviations are cryptic, but there will be an explanatory text along with the data set. I also have a lot of compensation/insurance data that has been kindly provided by Trevor Griffiths at Edinburgh University. Trevor used Pretoria compensation data and the extensive documented family follow-up reports through the life of the relief funds, for his DPhil (I think it was) thesis on the socio-economic impacts of the disaster. I have not added these data to the individual sheets. We are also recording any details of the men's lives, such as sports involvements and so on. If you have anything to add to Harold Pendlebury's file we would welcome it. MI means we have a record of the inscription on his gravestone, and MI will be linked through to a separate MI data file, which Pam Clarke is preparing. Regards Peter Wood PENDLEBURY Harold Age 16. 1 Croft Street, Wingates, Westhoughton. Haulage Hand. Born in Westhoughton birth registered Bolton 4th Q 1894. No.270. Body position 84. Tally 1165. Recovered 27 Dec 1910 from North Plodder District No.1 Face: in brow 8 yards from face. Identified by John Pendlebury (father). Cause of death: CO. Burnt. Buried: St John, Wingates, Westhoughton. MI. Death registration: Bolton Registry 1911 HOR/33/115. GRO 1911 1st Quarter Bolton 8c 276. Family at home: Parents John 36 and Margaret Ada 36; Siblings Sidney 14, Frank 13, Richard Stanley 11, Ivy 9, Annie 2, Maggie 7m. Notes: Member of L&CMPRS. Variants: Address later given as 16 Seddon Street, Westhoughton.

Many thanks Andrea. I knew that Fountain Byers had married Sarah Ann Jolley, but haven't been able to make a connection with the 3 others named Jolley/Jolly who died. Maybe there is no obvious connection - do you know of one? Fountain Byers was apparently a very good natural bass singer, and the whole family said to be very musical. We are recording relationships between victims, though I have drawn a line beyond 1st cousins - otherwise it gets too complicated. What was the relationship between Wm Gore and the Livesey lads? I am uncertain from the info you gave me, but it looks too diffuse to be included. Regards Peter

Hi Peter, As part of the research for my family tree, I have an ancestor named Harold Pendlebury who died aged 16 in the Pretoria Pit disaster of 1910. Please let me know if you would like any further information I have on him? Best regards, Stuart Andreafinney@aol.com wrote: > Hi Peter > > > Fountain Byers (who was rescused from the pit, but died the following day at > Bolton Infirmary) married my Gt Aunt Sarah Ann Jolley at Wingates Methodist > Chapel in 1901. He is buried (aged 33) with my Gt Aunt Sarah Ann and her > brother Thomas Jolley at St Johns Church Wingates. > > James Livsey born James Harper (out of wedlock) to Jane Harper on the 4th > October 1893 at 3 Waters Nook, Westhoughton. > John Livsey born to Jane Livsey (nee Harper) and Alfred Livsey on the 12th > October 1895 at 14 Waters Nook, Westhoughton. > Both died in the explosion and are buried with the Grandfather Charles > Harper at Westhoughton Church Yard.(aged 15 and 17 respectively) > > William Gore born in 1868 at Pepper Lane Standish, to Elizabeth and John > Gore. > He was interred at Westhoughton Cemetary Roman Catholic (aged 42) after the > service at Sacred Heart Church, King Street, Westhoughton. > > If you need any further help, please let me know. > Kind regards > Andrea > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BOLTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Does anyone have a complete list of the names and addresses of Elementary Schools in the Farnworth area circa 1880 Paul -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/445 - Release Date: 11/09/2006

Hi, I can't read the plans on the net, sorry ! However I have printed them out and in the light of day they may become clearer to my waning eyesight ! Then again, have you checked the photo on the website about which I told you ? Isn't it beautiful? I am a Church addict, being an ancestor of many Ministers/Vicars. Do I presume that you are asking me ? Otherwise whom? I have just checked, under the light in the courtyard. I cannot read the small print, but if you check with the photo of the Church, it appears very likely ! It is dark here in N.S.W. I shall re-check in the morning. (Remember that you get our 'used days') ! Cool ! Please keep in touch. Carolyn. Australia. > Is this the same Emmanuel Church? > > http://www.churchplansonline.org/retrieve_results.asp?i=03334 > Martin Briscoe > Fort William > M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > > Hi, > > There is a site on the net which is asking for information on Emmanuel > Church. > > It has a beautiful photo of the Church (it is Church of England) and then > the webmaster asks for all different kinds of info. on the Church because > his records are lacking.

Greetings, All, I have just been reviewing my ancestors. They all seem to have been married "BOLTON". They were all Church of England. There are many C of E Churches in Bolton. How do I work out which one? I know that my researcher wrote "St Peter's, Bolton". Years are between 1730 and at least 1833. Would love some help! Best wishes, Carolyn. Australia.

Greetings to all, Jane GARSIDE married Andrew MORRIS at St Mary's, Bury, 18 Jun, 1809 (Extracted Entry IGI). Jane was bapt. as Jane GARTSIDE on 18 Jun, 1786 at St Peter's, Bolton to Thomas GARTSIDE and Mary KAY( m. 1776, St Peter's, Bolton). Andrew and Jane had 7 children, all bapt at St Peter's, Bolton: viz.: - 1811 Ann - 1813 Mary - 1815 Betty - 1818 Thomas - 1822 Alice - 1824 Andrew - 1828 Jane Why would Jane be married at St Mary's Bury when she was bapt at Turton/St Peter, Bolton? Sorry that this seems such a stupid Q., but I've just come across it in my tree and wonder......................??? ..................Could this be whence my ancestors came? Or did Jane just like the Church, in preference to St Anne's, Turton ? Best wishes, Carolyn. Australia..

Hi Andrea Many thanks for your offer of help with the info about the Livesey lads and Wm. Gore. Pam Clarke will contact you soon about them. When I tried to discover the origins of James Livesey I came to the conclusion that he was born as James Harper before his parents married - is that in agreement with your knowledge of the family? Do you have the birthdates of the Liveseys and Wm Gore please? I have attempted to determine the birthplace and birth, at least to the nearest quarter, of all the victims, but it is nice when we find a birthdate as well. Regards Peter Wood

Hi Peter Pam has kindly e-mailed me so I will be sending 'her hard copies' etc. William Gore was the Uncle to John & James Livsey. I will also dig out a photograph of Uncle Fountain and my Aunt Sarah for you from my photos and send onto Pam. Sarah sat with Fountain at his bedside, on the 21st Dec 1910 but sadly died in the early hours the following morning. He was badly burned by the explosion and was laid to rest on Christmas Day 1910 at Wingates. Sarah Ann his widow presented a bible to Wingates Ind Methodist Church in his memory. I could go on and on and on, but I think it would be wise to meet up with Pam (if you dont mind Pam !!) and go from there. I am so pleased that this project is coming along, and that the memory of these poor men and boys is kept alive. Speak to you soon & well done all of you involved. Regards Andrea