>From another list............ I'm trying to track down a quarry accident, near Bromley Cross, where my grandfather lost an eye. His wedding photo in 1905 shows his with 2 good eyes and I believe he never served in WW1, so I'm assuming it happened during these 9/10 years. Further information from the writer............ In the late 30's to 40's he was living in Arnold Rd (next door to the Flag Inn) Bromley Cross and I was told of the quarry accident (with vague indications of it being up the road and quite near!). He always wore a patch over his eye, which I found fascinating as a child. He married MaryA BRENNAN in the parish church of Astley Bridge. By 1914 he lived at 50 Hamer Row, Turton. See the two photographs on (ref: 4w) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~boltongenealogy/photogallery2.htm Merry Christmas Derek Crompton London South-East

Additions to LancashireBMD <http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk>: 26 November 2007 BIRTHS: 48,480 births for Wigan & Leigh RD comprising: Ashton (1896-1901); Aspull (1896-1901); Atherton (1896-1901); Culcheth (1896-1901); Hindley (1896-1901); Leigh (1896-1901); Leigh & Golborne (1900-1900); Lowton (1896-1901); Orrell (1900-1900); Pemberton (1896-1901); Standish (1897-1901); Upholland (1896-1901); Wigan (1896-1901); Wigan (East) (1900-1900); Wigan (West) (1899-1899) 5,546 births for Preston RD comprising: Broughton (1900-1921) MARRIAGES: 1,294 for Rochdale RD comprising: Middleton, Methodist Church (Long Street) (1918-1974); Birtle, Methodist Chapel (also known as Moulding Methodist Chapel) (1914-1969); Rochdale, Methodist Church (Mitchell Street) (1965-1972); Rochdale, Champness Hall (1925-1973); Middleton, Alkrington & Providence United Reformed Church (1929-1974); Littleborough, Greenhill Methodist Chapel (1953-1974); Rochdale, Smallbridge Methodist Church (1910-1974); Littleborough, Methodist Church (Victoria Street) (1918-1965) 6,786 marriages for Blackburn RD comprising: Pickup Bank, Congregation Chapel (Hoddlesden) (1944-1979); Feniscowles, Methodist Church (1982-1993); Blackburn, Methodist School Chapel (Haslingden Rd) (1968-1977); Blackburn, Baptist Chapel (Leamington Rd) (1960-1982); Tockholes, United Reformed Church (1982-2002); Blackburn, Methodist Church (Bentham Rd) (1979-1996); Knuzden, Methodist Church (1946-1978); Blackburn, Methodist Church (Fore St) (1977-1983); Blackburn, Kingdom Hall (St Peters St) (1983-1999); Blackburn, St Paul's Church (Higher Audley St) (1981-1984); Blackburn, Apostolic Church (Randal St) (1981-1988); Blackburn, Bethesda Chapel (1981-1985); Blackburn, St John Vianney's Church (Livesey Branch Rd) (1984-2003); Darwen, Church of the Sacred Heart & St Edwards (Hollins Grove) (1985-1990); Blackburn, St Joseph's Church (Audley Range) (1998-1999); Blackburn, United Reformed Church (Sandy Lane) (1981-1985); Witton, St Philip (1937-1951); Blackburn, St Silas (1931-1945); Blackburn, St Aidan (1936-1945); Blackburn, St Gabriel (1936-1941); Register Office or Registrar Attended (1925-1946) 3 December 2007 BIRTHS: 8,606 births for Bury RD comprising: Birtle (1860-1863); Bury North (1856-1859); Bury South (1841-1850); Elton (1845-1851); Pilkington (1847-1848); Prestwich (1852-1855); Tottington (1860-1863); Walmersley (1849-1858) 5 December 2007 DEATHS: 12,827 for Rochdale RD comprising: Castleton Further (1854-1879); Castleton Nearer (1900-1901); Castleton No 1 (1901-1916) 18 December 2007 BIRTHS: 31,713 births for Oldham RD comprising ALL sub-districts (1891-1895) MARRIAGES: 4,423 marriages for Manchester RD comprising: Adath Israel Synagogue (1937-1942); Central Synagogue (1943-1949); Central Synagogue (1927-1932); Central Synagogue (1932-1936); Central Synagogue (1936-1943); Chevra Kadisha Synagogue (1940-1947); Chorlton-on-Medlock Synagogue (1917-1939); Great Synagogue (1927-1940); Holy Law Beth Aron (1919-1932); Kahal Chassidim Synagogue (1907-1936); Kourlander Synagogue (1899-1904); New Synagogue, Palatine Road, West Didsbury (1921-1926); New Synagogue/Beth Hamedrash Synagogue (1927-1934); New Synagogue/Beth Hamedrash Synagogue (1934-1948); Sellel & Psalms Synagogue (1935-1948); South Broughton Synagogue (1920-1921); South Broughton Synagogue (1922-1926); South Broughton Synagogue (1926-1930); South Broughton Synagogue (1930-1938); Warsaw Synagogue (1921-1947); Withington Synagogue (1907-1939); Withington Synagogue (1939-1945); Withington Synagogue (1945-1949) Many thanks to all who contribute to this endeavour! Note: YorkshireBMD and CheshireBMD have been updated as well. If there's a chance your ancestors wandered across borders or that their BMDs were registered in different counties, be sure to try UKBMD's Multi-Region Search <http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/index.php?form_action=local>. Happy hunting! Lynne

William Orrell was the son of James Orrell & Mary Ann Entwistle. James & Mary Ann had nine children that I know of. The first was George, born 1839. The ninth was Elizabeth born 1859. William was born about 1857 and married Elizabeth Thompson Sept Qtr. 1881 in Bolton. Their children were: William Thompson: Baptised: 6 Aug. 1884 Holy Trinity Church, Bolton. Florence: Baptised: 21 April 1886 Holy Trinity Church, Bolton. Percy: Baptised: 18 July 1888 Holy Trinity Church HTH Joan

Hi Joan, Wow thanks that is exciting. I had read the message on the list about Orrell but didn't know the connection to James and Mary Ann so will reread the list. My husband is the grandson of Percy Orrell and we live in BC, Canada. If anyone has any more information to share on this family please email us as we would love to know more about them. We have information about the families of Florence and Percy who came to Canada but would like to know more about William Thompson as well as the parents, brothers and sisters of William Orrell and Elizabeth Thompson. Thanks again. On Dec 15, 2007 9:13 AM, Joan Bridges <[email protected]> wrote: > William Orrell was the son of James Orrell & Mary Ann Entwistle. > James & Mary Ann had nine children that I know of. The first was > George, born 1839. The ninth was Elizabeth born 1859. > > William was born about 1857 and married Elizabeth Thompson > Sept Qtr. 1881 in Bolton. Their children were: > William Thompson: Baptised: 6 Aug. 1884 Holy Trinity Church, Bolton. > Florence: Baptised: 21 April 1886 Holy Trinity Church, Bolton. > Percy: Baptised: 18 July 1888 Holy Trinity Church > > HTH > > Joan > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Looking for any information on William Orrell and Elizabeth Thompson. Where they are buried, parents or when they were married or if there are any others researching this family. As per 1901 Census: They lived on Sidney Street, Bolton. Civil parish:Great Bolton, Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity ,Town: County:Lancashire , Source info: RG12/3120 Registration district:Bolton Sub registration district:Great Bolton ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Folio:62 William Orrell - head - no age - Gilder - born Bolton, Lancashire-GILDER: Elisabeth Orrell - wife - 36 - born Old-Iwan Lancashire William T Orrell - son - 6- Scholar - born Bolton Florence Orrell - daughter - 5 - Scholar - born Bolton Percy Orrell - son - 2 - born Bolton Florence Orrell married William Percy Dawson and they and Percy Orrell moved to Canada. Thanks

Hello everyone, I'm back on the list after some time, when I gave it all away so that I would have a chence to do some renovations and get myself organised. I still haven't finished what I wanted to do around the house and I'm still not organised, but my addiction has gotten the better of me, (even though I have tried to fight it) and so I have had to resub to both the Lancsgen and Bolton lists. I don't have any requests for help from SKS, and I know that this is the slow time of the year because of the festive season but still, so I want just to wish everyone: Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, and may all your 2008 brick walls be little tiny ones! Sylvia Wilcox, Sydney, Australia xxx

There is a photograph somewhere that shows a police sargent in the middle of the football pitch, directing people. That is my grandad James Brownlow. My dad was also at that match, he would have been about 14/15 and was passed along the heads of the crowd and onto the pitch to get him away from the crush. Regards, Margaret.

Ah yes this is a definite possible (if that makes any sense). Ancestry has it transcribed as Walkow :( So took a bit of finding even with your hints :) Definitely looks like Walkden to me. Class: HO107; Piece 537; Book: 11; Civil Parish: Bolton Le Moors; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 8; Folio: 31; Page: 9; If anyone else wants a peak. Thanks Jeremy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of CERyan Sent: 08 December 2007 17:05 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] John & Alice WALKDEN Hi Jeremy There is a possible Walkden family in 1841 in Powder Mills, Little Lever - HO 107 537 Book 11 Folio 31. ............

Hi Michael, Could be another for the "possible" pile, as the Mart is said to be born in Nottinghamshire? Thanks for looking! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael.C. Isherwood Sent: 08 December 2007 14:00 To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] John & Alice WALKDEN In 1871 there is John Walkden 66 wdw f in law of Mary Walkden Head wdw 41. Chdn:- John 23 stepson Joseph 16 Elizabeth Alice 13 Francis 9 James 3mo Is this any use? RG10 3932 f75 p2 Like you, I can't find sensible deaths Michael

Hi Jeremy Following on from 1841 it looks as though James married twice, the second time Mary who was born in Newark, Nottinghamshire - James died between 1861 and 1871 leaving Mary a widow with stepchildren and her own and James' children and in 1871 John is there as her Father in Law - RG10 3932 Folio 75 - Hulme Street, Little Bolton, the only snag is that John is only 66 in 1871 but wrong ages are normal. James and Mary in 1861 RG9 2820 Folio 43. There is a death for Alice aged 62 in 1866 in Bolton (FreeBMD). Just see what you think, I might be wrong Best wishes Charlotte

Hi Jeremy There is a possible Walkden family in 1841 in Powder Mills, Little Lever - HO 107 537 Book 11 Folio 31. John and Alice both down as 36, all the children's names are there (apart from those born after 1841) except that the six year old who should be Ann is down as Hannah (this is quite possible). There is an extra child James, 16 in 1841 so he could have married and left home before 1851. John was a Cotton Spinner. Best wishes Charlotte

In 1871 there is John Walkden 66 wdw f in law of Mary Walkden Head wdw 41. Chdn:- John 23 stepson Joseph 16 Elizabeth Alice 13 Francis 9 James 3mo Is this any use? RG10 3932 f75 p2 Like you, I can't find sensible deaths Michael [email protected] writes: >Hi all, > >Is anyone able to trace this family in the '41 and '71 censuses onwards? >I subscribe to ancestry but am just not having any luck >with finding them. There are a few possibilities but I can not be sure. >In '71 there are one or two Alice Walkden's on their own >without a husband or noted as widow. Again I can't seem to pin down a >certain death for John Walkden between '61 and '71. > >In '51 I have them Class: HO107; Piece: 2210; Folio: 251; Page: 18; GSU >roll: 87220. > >Alice Walkden 47 >John Walkden 47 >Sarah Walkden 26 >Mary Walkden 21 >Ann Walkden 16 >John Walkden 14 >Alice Walkden 6 >Joseph Walkden 4 >Thomas Walkden 4 > >In '61 I have them Class: RG9; Piece: 2826; Folio: 19; Page: 31; GSU >roll: 543034. > >Alice Walkden 56 >John Walkden 51 >John Walkden 23 >Alice Walkden 16 > >Both are in the parish of Holy Trinity in Great Bolton. Am I even right >in thinking these are the same family?

Hi all, Is anyone able to trace this family in the '41 and '71 censuses onwards? I subscribe to ancestry but am just not having any luck with finding them. There are a few possibilities but I can not be sure. In '71 there are one or two Alice Walkden's on their own without a husband or noted as widow. Again I can't seem to pin down a certain death for John Walkden between '61 and '71. In '51 I have them Class: HO107; Piece: 2210; Folio: 251; Page: 18; GSU roll: 87220. Alice Walkden 47 John Walkden 47 Sarah Walkden 26 Mary Walkden 21 Ann Walkden 16 John Walkden 14 Alice Walkden 6 Joseph Walkden 4 Thomas Walkden 4 In '61 I have them Class: RG9; Piece: 2826; Folio: 19; Page: 31; GSU roll: 543034. Alice Walkden 56 John Walkden 51 John Walkden 23 Alice Walkden 16 Both are in the parish of Holy Trinity in Great Bolton. Am I even right in thinking these are the same family? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Regards Jeremy

My mam attended this match,if she had been in the wrong place, I might never have been here! She was 3 months pregnant with me,I arrived on 23rd Sept. Jean.

Hi Derek, somewhere I have a newspaper for 1946 with photographs and the story of Burnden Disaster, i'll look it up tomorrow , maybe the editorial will give a better insight rather than memories. regards Jim [email protected] wrote: Thanks to Lori for pointing out the list of names killed. http://www.merseysidepotters.com/Burnden.htm Would have thought Bolton Wanders would have put a bit more in their history summary! Hence my look up on boltonrevisited. So it not just me pushing wrong buttons as normal. Anyone with memories of this disaster might like to send them to http://www.bbc.co.uk/memoryshare/ tell the list as well. Derek Crompton London South-East ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Maxine ,I have just e.mailed Jackie who designed and set up the site,I know she was bowing out ,but someone else was supposed to be taking over,also Valerie contributed alot to it.If I get a reply I will pass a message on.Jackie is doing the same family as myself ,so I hear from her every so often. Cheers. Jess --- Maxine <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello > When I try bolton revisited the same thing happens. > It also says that it may have been closed down...the > site, that is. According to > "http://www.answers.com/topic/bolton-1?cat=travel" > this was a project by the local residents. MC > > From: [email protected] > >Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] boltonrevisited web sie > >> > >What has happened to > >http://www.boltonrevisited.org.uk or is it me. > >Get message Because your browser does not support > HTTP/1.1 name-based virtual hosting, the site you > are trying to reach cannot be shown. > Derek Crompton London South-East > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com

Jess Brewer wrote: >Hi Maxine ,I have just e.mailed Jackie who designed >and set up the site,I know she was bowing out ,but >someone else was supposed to be taking over,also >Valerie contributed alot to it.If I get a reply I will >pass a message on.Jackie is doing the same family as >myself ,so I hear from her every so often. Cheers. >Jess > Jess, if cost is a factor, please let Jackie know that both RootsWeb and Google have free hosting programs. Best wishes, Lynne

Total co-incidnece but topical. I started reading Fred Dibnah's biography last night. His father was one of the turnstile operators at Burden Park on the day of the tragedy and his mum was on the Embankment End, but was not injured.

Hi, The rest of the error message says: "Alternatively, the site you are trying to reach may no longer be hosted at this address." I think that this is the most likely answer. I'll wait to see if anyone knows what's happened. Chris -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 07 December 2007 07:58 To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] boltonrevisited web sie What has happened to http://www.boltonrevisited.org.uk or is it me. Get message Because your browser does not support HTTP/1.1 name-based virtual hosting, the site you are trying to reach cannot be shown. Derek Crompton London South-East ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello When I try bolton revisited the same thing happens. It also says that it may have been closed down...the site, that is. According to "http://www.answers.com/topic/bolton-1?cat=travel" this was a project by the local residents. MC From: [email protected] >Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] boltonrevisited web sie >> >What has happened to >http://www.boltonrevisited.org.uk or is it me. >Get message Because your browser does not support HTTP/1.1 name-based virtual hosting, the site you are trying to reach cannot be shown. Derek Crompton London South-East