In message <[email protected]>, Perle <[email protected]> writes >Thanks for that. I have sent the certificate off to three people and the >general consensus is that he was a sailor. That was what I was also reading >but couldn't get my head around the fact, as all of my other rellies where >either aglabs or worked in the cotton industry. I was once helping a friend whose family had a legend that a particular ancestor had been a sailor. When we finally tracked him down, it turned out he was a tailor. Tailoring might be said to be more closely related to the cotton industry ... -- David Hartley

Can SKS look up a baptism of Ellen Holden in the records of St. Patrick's RC for 1833. Father's name John. Sorry do not know the month. Anne in Victoria BC

Joan asked for details of THOMAS AND JAMES LEACH.. Sheep hill farm and Bridges farm were both off Harwood rd as was Gorsey Clough were there parents lived James married Ester Ratcliffe at St Marys Bury in June 1872 CE/22/409 ( 8c 557)and they had a large family.(the Ratcliffe family still have a large presence in Tottington) Thomas married MARY ANN HAYWORTH in Bury DEC 1876 RM/39/111 (8C 693) They lived in Club Row (now Wesley st) they had two daughters MARY ELLEN b 1877 AND RACHEL b 1886 (8C 516 MARCH) If I can be anymore help let me know Keith

Hi, I would be grateful if someone could lookup a census record for me please. I have the following 1881 Census details (RG11 3821 Pg 10) 101 Leigh Road, Westhoughton John RIMMER Elizabeth RIMMER Mary Eliz. RIMMER Thomas RIMMER Margaret RIMMER Martha RIMMER Alice RIMMER James RIMMER and in 1901 Census (RG13 3611 Pg 82) 152 Manchester Road, Westhoughton John RIMMER Elizabeth RIMMER Thomas RIMMER Alice RIMMER James RIMMER Lily BYERS I have searched Ancestry and can't find anything in the 1891 Census. I am assuming that it is incorrectly transcribed in some way. Kind regards, Stuart

Hi Joan I have been waiting to see if anyone else could help you as my info is limited. Tottington is in Bury so info on the children of Thomas and James and there brother John should be found in records in the Bury area .The two farms were off Harwood rd in Tottington but I think they must have changed names over the years. I live in Tottington but I only came here I few years ago if I can find any info on the farms (or family) from my neighbours in the village I will let you know Keith ps some of ancestors are from the village so I have researched here ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Bridges" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:51 PM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Sheep Hill Farm, Tottington > Hello List members. > > I am on the trail of the children of Ellen Calderley & Thomas Leach. > > In 1891 Son Thomas Leach [born 1856] was a farmer at Lower Sheep Hill farm > Tottington, Lower End (RG12/3129/120/14) > > In 1901 Thomas was a Farmer: Sheep Hill, Tottington, Lancs. > (RG13/3635/61/7) > > Also in 1901, older brother James Leach [born 1847] was a > Farmer at Bridges Farm, Tottington, Lancs. (RG13/3635/67/19) > > Can anyone tell me anything about these farms? > > Thank you for any information. > > Regards from Ottawa, Canada > > Joan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List. Isn't there a list that enables us to send an attachment, so others can maybe decipher what we can't. I have a marriage certificate but am unable to decipher the bride's father's occupation. Regards. Perle Brooking. Younghusband. South Australia.

Hi Perle, You can send direct to me and I'll see if I can work it out. Jackie from not so sunny QLD At 04:05 PM 1/9/2008, you wrote: >Hello List. > >Isn't there a list that enables us to send an attachment, so others can >maybe decipher what we can't. I have a marriage certificate but am unable >to decipher the bride's father's occupation. > >Regards. > >Perle Brooking. >Younghusband. South Australia. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: >1/8/2008 1:38 PM

Perle wrote: >Hello List. > >Isn't there a list that enables us to send an attachment, so others can >maybe decipher what we can't. I have a marriage certificate but am unable >to decipher the bride's father's occupation. > Hi Perle You can't send attachments via any RootsWeb list. What you can do, however, is post a message on the Lancashire message board and add an attachment to that. The board is at <http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/mb.ashx?view=boards> or <http://tinyurl.com/27d4va>. Go to the board, click on "create a new thread" and post your message. At the bottom of the message form you'll see "Attachments: Attach a file". You can click on that and select the image you wish to attach. In order to post to the board you have to register, but that process is pretty quick and painless. All you need to provide is a valid e-mail address and a name. Once you've posted your message, let the list know what the subject line is so we can look at the image and possibly decipher the father's occupation. Hope that helps! Best wishes, Lynne

You need to put it on a website or send to individuals. I'd be happy to take a look and I am sure many others would too. Judy On 9 Jan 2008, at 06:05, Perle wrote: > Hello List. > > Isn't there a list that enables us to send an attachment, so others > can > maybe decipher what we can't. I have a marriage certificate but am > unable > to decipher the bride's father's occupation. > > Regards. > > Perle Brooking. > Younghusband. South Australia. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are plenty of sites where you can upload pictures free, it is best to put them there and then put URLs in the message to the list - FLICKR, PICASA etc You can't beat letting people see the actual document or photograph themselves rather than trying to describe something. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Perle > Sent: 09 January 2008 06:06 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Sending attachments. > > Hello List. > > Isn't there a list that enables us to send an attachment, so > others can maybe decipher what we can't. I have a marriage > certificate but am unable to decipher the bride's father's occupation.

I'm Helping a friend with tracing her paternal line of her family tree, which i have found to be from Bolton Lancashire, England. Father's name: frank brooks Mother's name: Annie Hardman Married November 4, 1919 in Bolton, Lancashire, England Children gordon william brooks (B) bet 1920-1928 on the 30th day of January in Vancouver, BC, Canada

Hi My Grundy line basically stops at James c1815 and Ellen (Holliday) as they only had 4 Girls Margaret 1842, Elizabeth 1844, Ellen 1848 and Hannah (my G Grandmother) 1850. I have no further info on Elizabeth but Ellen married a Thomas Morley and died in 1874 then Thomas married her sister Margaret who then died in 1883. Thomas and Ellen had 3 children Clarrisa, Margaret and James but Thomas and Margaret had no children that I could find. Hannah married John Slack and had 7 children the youngest Albert my Grandfather. I have not succeeded in going further back than James as have not had the time or money so get certificates etc needed as yet. Elyse> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 21:30:22 -0500> Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Grundy> > Thank you Lynn> > -----Original Message-----> From: [email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lynne Foxcroft> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 12:31 PM> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Grundy> > HI> > I don't know whether you are going backwards or forwards in time re your > search for the Grundys. I had a great aunt Mary (aka Polly) nee Worthington> > from Middle Hulton (Deane Parish, born in the 1890s) she married a Ted > (probably Edward) Grundy - they lived in Little Hulton for most of their > married life - he was a miner.> > I don't know if this helps, but I thought it would mention it all the same.> > Happy hunting> > Best wishes> > Lynne> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephan" <[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]>> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 12:26 AM> Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Grundy> > > > Hi Julie and Elyse> >> > I can't help with a look up either but I am looking for Grundys as well.> >> > I am a descendant of two Grundy women:> >> > Alice Grundy died April 8 1798 in Farnsworth and was married to Josephus> > Crompton who was born December 7 1701 Deane> >> > Mary Grundy born February 6, 1726 married Henricus France who was born > > July> > 28 1720 in Deane (married September 30, 1746 also in Deane)> >> > They could be sisters (which would make some pretty interesting> > relationships in my tree since they are both 6th great grandmothers to me)> > ;)> >> > Thanks,> >> > Stephan> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: [email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elyse Chugg> > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 5:45 PM> > To: [email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Grundy> >> >> > Hi Julie> > I cant help you with the look up but what family of Grundy are you> > researching I am a decendant of James Grundy c1815 (Bolton) son of (i > > think)> > Samuel c1778 and Elizabeth c1778 who married Ellen Holliday in 1841 in > > Bury> > Lancashire. 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Hello List members. I am on the trail of the children of Ellen Calderley & Thomas Leach. In 1891 Son Thomas Leach [born 1856] was a farmer at Lower Sheep Hill farm Tottington, Lower End (RG12/3129/120/14) In 1901 Thomas was a Farmer: Sheep Hill, Tottington, Lancs. (RG13/3635/61/7) Also in 1901, older brother James Leach [born 1847] was a Farmer at Bridges Farm, Tottington, Lancs. (RG13/3635/67/19) Can anyone tell me anything about these farms? Thank you for any information. Regards from Ottawa, Canada Joan

Thank you Lynn -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lynne Foxcroft Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 12:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Grundy HI I don't know whether you are going backwards or forwards in time re your search for the Grundys. I had a great aunt Mary (aka Polly) nee Worthington from Middle Hulton (Deane Parish, born in the 1890s) she married a Ted (probably Edward) Grundy - they lived in Little Hulton for most of their married life - he was a miner. I don't know if this helps, but I thought it would mention it all the same. Happy hunting Best wishes Lynne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Grundy > Hi Julie and Elyse > > I can't help with a look up either but I am looking for Grundys as well. > > I am a descendant of two Grundy women: > > Alice Grundy died April 8 1798 in Farnsworth and was married to Josephus > Crompton who was born December 7 1701 Deane > > Mary Grundy born February 6, 1726 married Henricus France who was born > July > 28 1720 in Deane (married September 30, 1746 also in Deane) > > They could be sisters (which would make some pretty interesting > relationships in my tree since they are both 6th great grandmothers to me) > ;) > > Thanks, > > Stephan > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elyse Chugg > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 5:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Grundy > > > Hi Julie > I cant help you with the look up but what family of Grundy are you > researching I am a decendant of James Grundy c1815 (Bolton) son of (i > think) > Samuel c1778 and Elizabeth c1778 who married Ellen Holliday in 1841 in > Bury > Lancashire. I would love to hear from you if you have any information of > these folks. > > Thanks > > Elyse.> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: > Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:29:39 +0000> Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Grundy> > > > > > > >> > > > > I am new to the list and wonder whether anyone would be kind > enough to do a look-up for me? I am interested in an entry in Tillotson's > Bolton Directory for 1955 and would like any information on AM Grundy who > lived at 79 Calvert Road, Bolton. Many thanks.> > Julie> > > _________________________________________________________________> Get > Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463!> > http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx> > -------------------------------> > To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > Overpaid or Underpaid? Check our comprehensive Salary Centre > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent%2Emycareer%2Ecom%2Ea > u%2Fsalary%2Dcentre%3Fs%5Fcid%3D595810&_t=766724125&_r=Hotmail_Email_Tagline > _MyCareer_Oct07&_m=EXT > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lynne, Stephan and Elyse, Many thanks for your replies. My Grundy connection is only through marriage when my relative William Stuart married Sarah Ellen Grundy in 1882 so I have not investigated the Grundy line particularly. My interest is in tracing anyone connected to William Grundy Stuart of Wigan who died in May 1956 and whose Grundy cousin from Bolton registered his death. Sorry I cannot be of any help to you at all. Best wishes. Julie _________________________________________________________________ Telly addicts unite! http://www.searchgamesbox.com/tvtown.shtml

HI I don't know whether you are going backwards or forwards in time re your search for the Grundys. I had a great aunt Mary (aka Polly) nee Worthington from Middle Hulton (Deane Parish, born in the 1890s) she married a Ted (probably Edward) Grundy - they lived in Little Hulton for most of their married life - he was a miner. I don't know if this helps, but I thought it would mention it all the same. Happy hunting Best wishes Lynne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Grundy > Hi Julie and Elyse > > I can't help with a look up either but I am looking for Grundys as well. > > I am a descendant of two Grundy women: > > Alice Grundy died April 8 1798 in Farnsworth and was married to Josephus > Crompton who was born December 7 1701 Deane > > Mary Grundy born February 6, 1726 married Henricus France who was born > July > 28 1720 in Deane (married September 30, 1746 also in Deane) > > They could be sisters (which would make some pretty interesting > relationships in my tree since they are both 6th great grandmothers to me) > ;) > > Thanks, > > Stephan > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elyse Chugg > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 5:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Grundy > > > Hi Julie > I cant help you with the look up but what family of Grundy are you > researching I am a decendant of James Grundy c1815 (Bolton) son of (i > think) > Samuel c1778 and Elizabeth c1778 who married Ellen Holliday in 1841 in > Bury > Lancashire. I would love to hear from you if you have any information of > these folks. > > Thanks > > Elyse.> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: > Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:29:39 +0000> Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Grundy> > > > > > > >> > > > > I am new to the list and wonder whether anyone would be kind > enough to do a look-up for me? I am interested in an entry in Tillotson's > Bolton Directory for 1955 and would like any information on AM Grundy who > lived at 79 Calvert Road, Bolton. Many thanks.> > Julie> > > _________________________________________________________________> Get > Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463!> > http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx> > -------------------------------> > To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > Overpaid or Underpaid? Check our comprehensive Salary Centre > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent%2Emycareer%2Ecom%2Ea > u%2Fsalary%2Dcentre%3Fs%5Fcid%3D595810&_t=766724125&_r=Hotmail_Email_Tagline > _MyCareer_Oct07&_m=EXT > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some interesting stuff there, I have downloaded quite a few. Some years ago I spotted a few films in the North West Film Archive that sounded as if they might have some connections with my family. I was able to get them to put them on a VHS tape for a modest cost and I think one film has my Grandfather on it. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Aldyth Hunter > Sent: 07 January 2008 16:27 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Manchester Centre for Regional History > > Hello from Victoria > > Thanks to the person who sent the suggestion for the above site. > I accidentally deleted the email with this site recommended > so do not know the sender

Hi Julie I cant help you with the look up but what family of Grundy are you researching I am a decendant of James Grundy c1815 (Bolton) son of (i think) Samuel c1778 and Elizabeth c1778 who married Ellen Holliday in 1841 in Bury Lancashire. I would love to hear from you if you have any information of these folks. Thanks Elyse.> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:29:39 +0000> Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Grundy> > > > > > > > > > > I am new to the list and wonder whether anyone would be kind enough to do a look-up for me? I am interested in an entry in Tillotson's Bolton Directory for 1955 and would like any information on AM Grundy who lived at 79 Calvert Road, Bolton. Many thanks.> > Julie> > _________________________________________________________________> Get Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463!> http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Overpaid or Underpaid? Check our comprehensive Salary Centre http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent%2Emycareer%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fsalary%2Dcentre%3Fs%5Fcid%3D595810&_t=766724125&_r=Hotmail_Email_Tagline_MyCareer_Oct07&_m=EXT

Hello from Victoria Thanks to the person who sent the suggestion for the above site. I accidentally deleted the email with this site recommended so do not know the sender I had a good look at a number of publications, The Bolton Archives article was interesting and had two mentions of my Harwood family which I was able to print. also Saturday Night Markets in Manchester and Salford 1840-1939 This article is absolutely fascinating and does have mention of a Bolton market. This site is well worth browsing. http://www.mcrh.mmu.ac.uk/pubs/mrhrind.htm thanks again for sharing. Aldyth Hunter, Victoria BC

And more This one has some useful early maps of Bolton Jenny Field Survival Strategies in Mid-Nineteenth Century Bolton http://www.mcrh.mmu.ac.uk/pubs/pdf/mrhr_12_field.pdf Peter Taylor Handloom Weavers and Popular Politics in Bolton, c.1825-1850 http://www.mcrh.mmu.ac.uk/pubs/pdf/mrhr_09_p_taylor.pdf Peter Taylor A Divided Middle Class: Bolton 1790-1850 http://www.mcrh.mmu.ac.uk/pubs/pdf/mrhr_06_taylor.pdf Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: 04 January 2008 04:46 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Dobson and Barlow and the > Bolton EngineersStrike of 1887 > > In a message dated 04/01/2008 02:43:28 GMT Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > http://www.mcrh.mmu.ac.uk/pubs/mrhrind.htm > > Spotted another Bolton related article in the Manchester > Region History > Review. Another magazine I never herd of. > > Bolton and the Cinema: > http://www.mcrh.mmu.ac.uk/pubs/pdf/mrhr_05ii_rigby.pdf > > > > Derek Crompton > London South-East > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > >