Thanks for this important information Stuart,we have saved it on file on our Yahoo Pendlebury site so that it may help someone looking down the track....not everyone knows how to search for these quirky variations and we get enough of them with names like Pendlebury anyway. Thanks to everyone who puts in time to both do these transcriptions and those who post corrections,a great job done by all and a great service to our world community,Pauline in Aus.

Hi Robert Have you checked the message boards? There are many posts about MOLINEUX and variations in Lancashire on both the surnames and locality boards. This snippet was found on the VELLELEY board at <http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.valleley/2/mb.ashx>: > John VALLELEY, as follows: > Born on the 25 Aug. 1815, at Manchester, son of Francis and Mary, > formerly MOLLINEUX. Baptised at St. Chads (RC), 3 Sept. 1815, sponsers > James McGINNIS and Ellen DUCKWORTH. Don't know how you keep up with all the variations in the spelling of this name! I was amazed at how many turned up on Surname Thesaurus. It will be quite a job to search for all of the variations on the message boards (and FreeBMD, UK BMD, etc.), but it may be well worth it. Good luck! Lynne

snip > thanks martin for this info,, it doesnt place the child though,, so will have to look again. maggi > > > > snip _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

hi all. is there anyone with access to the US, FEDERAL CENSUS for 1910, who could do a lookup for me PLEASE? I am trying to find a FREDERICK W HIGSON he should have been born in bolton uk, in 1869,, I am trying to place a child, ANNIE HIGSON b philladelphia, should be aged 4 yrs on 1910 census, I am trying to discover if this childs father was FREDERICK W, i havent a clue when he emigrated from england to usa, can anyone help with this as well please? i would be so grateful for any help with this. maggi _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

Hopefully someone with full Ancestry access will be able to help but you can get some information off Ancestry even is no full subscription. There is a Frederick W HIGSON in Philadelphia born ABT 1870 England In the household is Mary E HIGSON age 37 Jennie HIGSON age 7 William A HIGSON age 1 year 7 months You can find his year of immigration 1886 - just trying different years in the search form. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > marjorie featherstone > Sent: 04 March 2008 10:00 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] US, CENSUS help needed > > > hi all. > is there anyone with access to the US, FEDERAL CENSUS for > 1910, who could do a lookup for me PLEASE? > I am trying to find a FREDERICK W HIGSON he should have been > born in bolton uk, in 1869,, I am trying to place a child,

Hello again Maggi: The same HIGSON family is found on the 1920 and the 1930 U.S. Census. The daughter's name is clearly written on the Census pages, as Jennie. I cannot find any other family that matches. Barb, Ontario, Canada.

Hello Maggie: There is an entry on the 1910 U.S. Census which looks interesting, but the child's name is shown as "Jennie" It shows Frederick W. HIGSON, b. abt 1870, England; living in Philadelphia, Ward 40. He is married. The year of immigration is 1887. Occupation is "Manager" working in a Silk Mill His wife, Mary E. HIGSON, b. abt. 1873, England at the above address. Her year of immigration is 1882. Daughter, Jennie, b. abt. 1903, Pennsylvania Son, William A. b. abt. 1908, Pennsylvania I'll have another look later, but I wonder if this is your "Annie" ? Barb, Ontario, Canada.

Hi Joyce and All The name Molyneux and its variations appears to have originated with the arrival of William of Orange There is quite a bit written of this name However presently the particular line I am researching does not go back further than 1720 Regards Robert From the Roaring Forties PS --There is a one name society who probably have a lot of info on the name

At 10:18 PM 2/03/2008, you wrote: >Hi Robert, > > I found 1 Mollineux family living at Moss Fold Halliwell, on the 1841 > census. > James aged 48 carter > Betty 37 wife > Mary 11 > Ellen 9 > Thomas 6 > Alice 4 > > Regards Jim > > Thanks Jim This info could put paid to one of my possible theories--- Namely the Ellen Molyneux at Halliwell in the 1881 census relates to the above info I am searching for an Elizabeth Molyneux of similar age whose husband was John Regards Robert From the Roaring Forties

Hi Eleanor, On 02/03/2008, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > My grandmother married Jesse KAY > in March 1902. They cane to the US in 1903. My > grandmother took my Mother to England in 1920 to > visit. Her passport which I have, claims they went to > 24 Liverpool St. > > Eleanor Souza in MASS. US Liverpool street was just across Blackburn Road from Kay Street. Unfortunately this area has been redeveloped in recent times, but its approximate situation can be found by clicking on the link below. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=371575&y=410128&z=1&sv=371575,410128&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf > > Valerie > > > >

Hi Lainee, I agree with you entirely, but I wouldn't have reported it as an error if I wasn't 100% sure. I have 2 images - one from FreeBMD and one from Ancestry. The FreeFMD entry could indeed look like a 'C' but is alphabetically out of order in the index. The image from Ancestry is definitely a 'U'. I thought it only right to report it in this forum as some researchers here might be missing some Pendleburys. Best regards, Stuart [email protected] wrote: > They may be incorrect in your eyes, Stuart, but having been a transcriber > for another project, we are told to transcribe precisely what we see and > NOT to guess at what it might be. So based on the original the U might > well have appeared to be a C depending on the person who did the writing. > This made it difficult as I have/had done extensive research in the area > that I was transcribing and knew what the name should be, but could only > transcribe it as I saw it. If not, then it wasn't a transcription, but my > interpretation of what the records should be. > > Lainee >

Hi All, Just a quick note for those with PENDLEBURY surname. FreeBMD (www.freebmd.org.uk) has incorrectly transcribed the Q2 1899 quarter of Pendlebury births as Pendlebcry, so unless you do a phonetic search, you won't pick up the following records. There are a few Bolton and Leigh entries. I have reported the error on Elizabeth Ann, but there doesn't seem to be an easy way of reporting the error on all 25 records. I don't know the correction procedures, so I don't know whether they will correct all 25 records or just the one I have reported. The correction to the FreeBMD site can take a couple of months to show. Pendlebcry Annie Elizabeth Prestwich 8d 444 Pendlebcry Christopher Salford 8d 106 Pendlebcry Cyril Runcorn 8a 219 Pendlebcry Edith Jane Bolton 8c 428 Pendlebcry Elizabeth Ann Bolton 8c 424 Pendlebcry Ellen Wigan 8c 94 Pendlebcry Emma Chorlton 8c 948 Pendlebcry Frank Runcorn 8a 224 Pendlebcry Harry Prescot 8b 803 Pendlebcry Henry Chorlton 8c 764 Pendlebcry Hilda Bolton 8c 508 Pendlebcry James Leigh 8c 344 Pendlebcry James Lambert Stockport 8a 53 Pendlebcry James O'Hara Bolton 8c 485 Pendlebcry John Runcorn 8a 225 Pendlebcry Mabel Harriet Chorley 8e 523 Pendlebcry Margaret Wigan 8c 89 Pendlebcry Richard Gerrard Wigan 8c 127 Pendlebcry Richard Stanley Bolton 8c 434 Pendlebcry Robert Henry Cardiff 11a 324 Pendlebcry Thomas Leigh 8c 301 Pendlebcry Thomas Bury 8c 620 Pendlebcry Thomas Richard Chorlton 8c 739 Pendlebcry Violet Brunetta Cardiff 11a 324 Pendlebcry William Bolton 8c 458 Best regards, Stuart

Robert There are other Molyneux families in Westhoughton, if you enter the Lancashire opc project it give a long list of parish's in the county, enter Westhoughton and click onto St Bartholomews this gives a list of BMDs and some census returns for 1841, a Elizabeth Molyneux aged 25 unmarried with her family appears on one list. Rgds Jim Robert <[email protected]> wrote: At 10:18 PM 2/03/2008, you wrote: >Hi Robert, > > I found 1 Mollineux family living at Moss Fold Halliwell, on the 1841 > census. > James aged 48 carter > Betty 37 wife > Mary 11 > Ellen 9 > Thomas 6 > Alice 4 > > Regards Jim > > Thanks Jim This info could put paid to one of my possible theories--- Namely the Ellen Molyneux at Halliwell in the 1881 census relates to the above info I am searching for an Elizabeth Molyneux of similar age whose husband was John Regards Robert >From the Roaring Forties :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Eleanor Bolton St George RG13/3623 Folio 43 page 31 29 Kent Street John Boardman 58 Mary A 58 William 26 Susannah 19 Albert 15 Can send page if you wish Jesse Kay is one of my relatives.........Would love to hear from you. [email protected] Cheers Jannine New Zealand

I don't disagree with reporting it both to FreeBMD and here, but I just felt to be fair to the transcribers to state why it might appear that way. I don't know if FreeBMD will do something like Ancestry does where you mouseover and it will show the alternate spelling that someone reported or if they will leave it the same. I am quite sure there will be tons more of these "incorrect" transcriptions as time goes on and more searches done, Lainee > [Original Message] > From: Stuart Ashton <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 3/3/2008 5:48:35 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] FreeBMD - Incorrect BirthTranscriptions -PENDLEBURY Q2 1899 > > Hi Lainee, > > I agree with you entirely, but I wouldn't have reported it as an error > if I wasn't 100% sure. > > I have 2 images - one from FreeBMD and one from Ancestry. The FreeFMD > entry could indeed look like a 'C' but is alphabetically out of order in > the index. The image from Ancestry is definitely a 'U'. > > I thought it only right to report it in this forum as some researchers > here might be missing some Pendleburys. > > Best regards, > Stuart > > [email protected] wrote: > > They may be incorrect in your eyes, Stuart, but having been a transcriber > > for another project, we are told to transcribe precisely what we see and > > NOT to guess at what it might be. So based on the original the U might > > well have appeared to be a C depending on the person who did the writing. > > This made it difficult as I have/had done extensive research in the area > > that I was transcribing and knew what the name should be, but could only > > transcribe it as I saw it. If not, then it wasn't a transcription, but my > > interpretation of what the records should be. > > > > Lainee

They may be incorrect in your eyes, Stuart, but having been a transcriber for another project, we are told to transcribe precisely what we see and NOT to guess at what it might be. So based on the original the U might well have appeared to be a C depending on the person who did the writing. This made it difficult as I have/had done extensive research in the area that I was transcribing and knew what the name should be, but could only transcribe it as I saw it. If not, then it wasn't a transcription, but my interpretation of what the records should be. Lainee > [Original Message] > From: Stuart Ashton <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Date: 3/3/2008 5:32:05 AM > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] FreeBMD - Incorrect Birth Transcriptions -PENDLEBURY Q2 1899 > > Hi All, > > Just a quick note for those with PENDLEBURY surname. > > FreeBMD (www.freebmd.org.uk) has incorrectly transcribed the Q2 1899 > quarter of Pendlebury births as Pendlebcry, so unless you do a phonetic > search, you won't pick up the following records. There are a few Bolton > and Leigh entries. I have reported the error on Elizabeth Ann, but > there doesn't seem to be an easy way of reporting the error on all 25 > records. I don't know the correction procedures, so I don't know > whether they will correct all 25 records or just the one I have > reported. The correction to the FreeBMD site can take a couple of > months to show. > <snip> > > Best regards, > Stuart

That's roughly what a surname book of mine says - landed family in SW Lancashire from 12th Century. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > joyce stevens > Sent: 02 March 2008 14:53 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] molineux > > Answered my own question. Likely, but not positively goes > back to Normandy. > http://books.google.com/books?id=FSwAAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA88&lpg=PA88 > &dq=derivation > +of+name+mollineux&source=web&ots=zVVO3CNkrV&sig=kL5IJrun9cSBg > NG2x8HorBg > +of+name+LZf0 > &hl=en#PPA91,M1

Hi Robert, I found 1 Mollineux family living at Moss Fold Halliwell, on the 1841 census. James aged 48 carter Betty 37 wife Mary 11 Ellen 9 Thomas 6 Alice 4 Regards Jim Robert <[email protected]> wrote: At 07:52 PM 29/02/2008, you wrote: >Hi , > with regards to the Molineux name, there is a William Molineux interred > at St Peters Church Halliwell 1863 aged 82. > Jim > XXXXX Thanks Jim If anyone has any other info on any Molineux in the Bolton/Wigan district I would be pleased to accept anything at all Specifically am researching an Elizabeth Mollineux [maiden name uinknown] reputedly born at Ince c 1804, and probably lived in Halliwell after her marriage to a John Mollineux c 1820 Thanks Robert >From the Roaring Forties :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Answered my own question. Likely, but not positively goes back to Normandy. http://books.google.com/books?id=FSwAAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA88&lpg=PA88&dq=derivation +of+name+mollineux&source=web&ots=zVVO3CNkrV&sig=kL5IJrun9cSBgNG2x8HorBgLZf0 &hl=en#PPA91,M1 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of joyce stevens Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 9:48 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] molineux Forgive my curiosity. I have no connection to this family. I'm just curious it the name comes French Huguenot to England? Thank you Joyce Stevens -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JAMES RIDING Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] molineux Hi Robert, I found 1 Mollineux family living at Moss Fold Halliwell, on the 1841 census. James aged 48 carter Betty 37 wife Mary 11 Ellen 9 Thomas 6 Alice 4 Regards Jim Robert <[email protected]> wrote: At 07:52 PM 29/02/2008, you wrote: >Hi , > with regards to the Molineux name, there is a William Molineux interred > at St Peters Church Halliwell 1863 aged 82. > Jim > XXXXX Thanks Jim If anyone has any other info on any Molineux in the Bolton/Wigan district I would be pleased to accept anything at all Specifically am researching an Elizabeth Mollineux [maiden name uinknown] reputedly born at Ince c 1804, and probably lived in Halliwell after her marriage to a John Mollineux c 1820 Thanks Robert >From the Roaring Forties :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Forgive my curiosity. I have no connection to this family. I'm just curious it the name comes French Huguenot to England? Thank you Joyce Stevens -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JAMES RIDING Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] molineux Hi Robert, I found 1 Mollineux family living at Moss Fold Halliwell, on the 1841 census. James aged 48 carter Betty 37 wife Mary 11 Ellen 9 Thomas 6 Alice 4 Regards Jim Robert <[email protected]> wrote: At 07:52 PM 29/02/2008, you wrote: >Hi , > with regards to the Molineux name, there is a William Molineux interred > at St Peters Church Halliwell 1863 aged 82. > Jim > XXXXX Thanks Jim If anyone has any other info on any Molineux in the Bolton/Wigan district I would be pleased to accept anything at all Specifically am researching an Elizabeth Mollineux [maiden name uinknown] reputedly born at Ince c 1804, and probably lived in Halliwell after her marriage to a John Mollineux c 1820 Thanks Robert >From the Roaring Forties :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message