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    1. [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Old Wills
    2. Margaret Horrocks
    3. I wondered if someone could help me, I have great difficulty in finding anything on A2A, I think it is my age. The thing I am looking for is a Will for a John Ainsworth Horrocks he was a farmer and died in 1843 age 79 years 1 week and 3 days (that is how it is written on the death certificate) on the 23rd of August at Gabriels or Gaberels Farm Horwich. Thank you, Margaret

    04/23/2008 06:57:15
    1. [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] moorside school photo 1937
    2. Hello everyone, I was wondering if someone might be able to tell me a bit about Moorside School? I have a photograph of my Grandmother in 'class IV E' at 'Moorside' in 1937. She would have been about 12 years of age. They were not wearing uniforms. Would this have been Primary or High School does anyone know? If anyone has any ancestors/relatives who might be in the photo I would be happy to send it to you. If anyone has any photographs of children/classes in this school around this time (1937-1943?) I would really love to see the photographs also (to see if my Grandmother might be in any others). Thank you, Tamara

    04/23/2008 04:21:22
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] moorside school photo 1937
    2. Lynne Foxcroft
    3. HI Tamara I'm sure that you will probably have lots of emails about Moorside School. I think that it is probably in Swinton - Moorside is a district of Swinton. If your Grandmother was about 12, it would be a high school. I'm sorry I can't be of any further help, but maybe it will be something to go on. Perhaps the Swinton library or the Local Studies library at Manchester Central Library might be able to give you some more details of records etc. Good luck with your search Lynne ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 1:21 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] moorside school photo 1937 > > > Hello everyone, > I was wondering if someone might be able to tell me a bit about Moorside > School? > I have a photograph of my Grandmother in 'class IV E' at 'Moorside' in > 1937. She would have been about 12 years of age. They were not wearing > uniforms. Would this have been Primary or High School does anyone know? > If anyone has any ancestors/relatives who might be in the photo I would be > happy to send it to you. > If anyone has any photographs of children/classes in this school around > this time (1937-1943?) I would really love to see the photographs also (to > see if my Grandmother might be in any others). > Thank you, > Tamara > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/23/2008 02:41:47
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] moorside school photo 1937
    2. Martin Briscoe
    3. I notice that you posted the message in LANCSGEN also, do you have any reason to believe that the school was in Bolton? Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: 23 April 2008 01:21 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] moorside school photo 1937 > > > > Hello everyone, > I was wondering if someone might be able to tell me a bit > about Moorside School? > I have a photograph of my Grandmother in 'class IV E' at > 'Moorside' in 1937. She would have been about 12 years of > age. They were not wearing uniforms. Would this have been > Primary or High School does anyone know? > If anyone has any ancestors/relatives who might be in the > photo I would be happy to send it to you. > If anyone has any photographs of children/classes in this > school around this time (1937-1943?) I would really love to > see the photographs also (to see if my Grandmother might be > in any others). > Thank you, > Tamara

    04/23/2008 02:03:54
    1. [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Minutes of the Committee of Council on Education, with Appendices
    2. Martin Briscoe
    3. Just been exploring GOOGLE BOOKS, there are quite a number of these books from the 1840 - 1860 period, they have odd snippets of comments on various schools with statistics about the schools in tables. Minutes of the Committee of Council on Education, with Appendices By Great Britain Privy Council. Committee on Education Published 1857 Couple of samples but many other Bolton schools covered Bolton, Emmanuel, May 30. An infant, school and a class-room are about to be erected. Boys' School.-One apprentice. Average daily attendance 200 ; arranged in seven classes. Besides the pupil teacher, three lads were presented as candidates. The result of such examination of the school, as I could find time for, was satisfactory in every respect. The neatness, order, and attention, were very great. Singing taught with good results by the pupil teacher ; the instruction active and efficient; the teaching of the pupil teacher, and of the candidates for apprenticeship, was particularly good ; great pains had clearly been taken to make it so. I regretted to hear that the master had resigned ; he is to be succeeded by another from the Battersea Training Institution. Girls' School.-One apprentice. Average attendance 104. Girls arranged in seven classes ; there is an assistant mistress besides the pupil teacher ; each monitor serves one day in the week. Order and attention not very good. Instruction in rather a better state than last year, and more of it ; but there was too great a tendency to answering by rote, and a want of active intelligence. The mistress could not be induced to pass the requisite examination, but promised to attend the next examination for certificates of merit. Dea ne, Jane 11. One apprentice. The day was unfortunate for my examination of the school, as it happened to be the annual school-feast day> and few of the younger children were present. Usual attendance between 40 and 50; of the first class, six boys were over 13, and four were 12 years old; arranged in five classes. Order good. The instruction came quite up to, and in some respects exceeded, the standard of last year. One buy worked simple and quadratic equations fairly. The boys sang by note pleasingly. The master has obtained a certificate of merit. Bolton, Christchurch, June 2. Fine school buildings, lately erected. The girls' school, on the first floor, is a particularly fine room. Boys' school, on the ground floor, only opened five months ago, since which time there have been three masters, and the present one has only been there two months. Children very young. Number present 93. Arranged in six classes. Order fair for the circumstances. Catechism well repeated, but moderately understood. Religious knowledge moderate. Reading very fair. Writing fair. Writing from memory fair. Arithmetic moderate. The school may probably be in a good state after reasonable time for producing results. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS

    04/20/2008 05:41:22
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] St Peters Halliwell - graveyard
    2. Janet C
    3. Thanks you so much Bob... more information than I could have hoped for, I very much appreciate you kindness. Regards Janet Curran> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 00:32:18 +0100> Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] St Peters Halliwell - graveyard> > Hi Janet,> I have an image of the grave entry that I'll send off list. The grave is in> section B, number 383. I'll try to help you to find it.> > On the general question of transcribing data for your local church, it> depends whether you have in mind transcribing the monumental inscriptions in> the churchyard, or whether you plan to transcribe the church registers. If> the latter, then it depends to some extent whether the registers have been> filmed and where they are now kept. It's generally necessary to obtain the> permission of the record holder. That can be the vicar or the local or> county record office.> > If you are just planning to do the MIs the requirements are less stringent,> but it would certainly be courteous to seek the approval of the vicar before> embarking on a large project. If there is serious doubt about approval> being forthcoming, in some circumstances it can be worth considering whether> it might be easier to get forgiveness than it would be to get permission.> > If you do decide to have a go LAN-OPC would be very interested in supporting> your efforts and subsequently publishing them on the web for free access.> Please get in touch again if you decide to go ahead and you're interested in> getting involved.> > Regards, Bob Thornley, Bolton> > -----Original Message-----> From: [email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Janet C> Sent: 14 April 2008 19:59> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] St Peters Halliwell - graveyard> > > Hi Bob> > Thanks for your interest. There are six burials listed which I think are> 'mine', as follows:-> > Burial: 12 Feb 1904 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, EnglandRobert AITKIN -> Age: 14 Abode: 6 Avondale Street Register: Burials 1895 - 1904, Page> 185, Entry 1480> Burial: 8 Apr 1916 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, EnglandWalter AITKEN -> Age: 35 Abode: 31 Horrocks Street Bolton Register: Burials 1913 -> 1922, Page 45, Entry 360> Burial: 11 Mar 1920 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, EnglandHarry AITKEN -> Age: 3 Abode: 3 Bowen Street Bolton Register: Burials 1913 - 1922,> Page 140, Entry 1120> Burial: 13 Mar 1929 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, EnglandJoyce AITKEN -> Age: 9 months Abode: 54 Mona Street Register: Burials 1922 - 1930,> Page 172, Entry 1371> Burial: 10 Jul 1931 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, EnglandThomas Walter> AITKEN - Age: 73 Abode: 31 Horrocks Street ( died at Thornley's> Hospital) Register: Burials 1930 - 1940, Page 22, Entry 175> Burial: 8 Dec 1936 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, EnglandLouisa AITKEN -> Age: 76 Abode: 25 Shackleton Grove Bolton Register: Burials 1930 -> 1940, Page 137, Entry 1095> > but I'm primarily interested in the last two - Thomas Walter and Louisa> Aitken, who were my great-grandparents. > > If you can offer any help or advice, I would of course be delighted!> > Could I just ask a general question about the MI/graves project? Did you> have to get the permission of the current vicar to start such a project? I> live opposite a church with a graveyard, and have been wondering if I might> be able to do something similar in the future - at the moment, other> commitments mean I don't have the time to spare, but I feel it could be a> useful thing to do, and also very interesting.> > Look forward to hearing from you.> > Regards,> Janet Curran> From: [email protected]> To:> [email protected]> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:59:22 +0100> Subject:> Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] St Peters Halliwell - graveyard> > Hi Janet,> You're> not wrong about the potential difficulty of finding the grave.> > There are> getting on for 18,000 burials in the churchyard, and many of the> headstones> have not survived.> > We are working on a complete grave transcription to be> linked to the burial> transcripts, and ultimately we hope also to link in> MIs and photographs of> the headstones. It's a massive project, of course,> and not at all> straightforward so I can't make any immediate predictions> for when the> additional data might begin to appear.> > But you do know how> to win friends - thanks or your kind comments.> > If you'll send me the> details you've found so far I'll see if it's possible> to locate the grave> for you.> > Regards, Bob Thornley>> _________________________________________________________________> Welcome to the next generation of Windows Live> http://www.windowslive.co.uk/get-live> > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-:> > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list.> Other people can learn from them!> > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-:> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-:> > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list.> Other people can learn from them!> > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-:> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile. 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    04/15/2008 01:11:47
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] St Peters Halliwell - graveyard
    2. Bob Thornley
    3. Hi Janet, I have an image of the grave entry that I'll send off list. The grave is in section B, number 383. I'll try to help you to find it. On the general question of transcribing data for your local church, it depends whether you have in mind transcribing the monumental inscriptions in the churchyard, or whether you plan to transcribe the church registers. If the latter, then it depends to some extent whether the registers have been filmed and where they are now kept. It's generally necessary to obtain the permission of the record holder. That can be the vicar or the local or county record office. If you are just planning to do the MIs the requirements are less stringent, but it would certainly be courteous to seek the approval of the vicar before embarking on a large project. If there is serious doubt about approval being forthcoming, in some circumstances it can be worth considering whether it might be easier to get forgiveness than it would be to get permission. If you do decide to have a go LAN-OPC would be very interested in supporting your efforts and subsequently publishing them on the web for free access. Please get in touch again if you decide to go ahead and you're interested in getting involved. Regards, Bob Thornley, Bolton -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Janet C Sent: 14 April 2008 19:59 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] St Peters Halliwell - graveyard Hi Bob Thanks for your interest. There are six burials listed which I think are 'mine', as follows:- Burial: 12 Feb 1904 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, EnglandRobert AITKIN - Age: 14 Abode: 6 Avondale Street Register: Burials 1895 - 1904, Page 185, Entry 1480 Burial: 8 Apr 1916 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, EnglandWalter AITKEN - Age: 35 Abode: 31 Horrocks Street Bolton Register: Burials 1913 - 1922, Page 45, Entry 360 Burial: 11 Mar 1920 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, EnglandHarry AITKEN - Age: 3 Abode: 3 Bowen Street Bolton Register: Burials 1913 - 1922, Page 140, Entry 1120 Burial: 13 Mar 1929 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, EnglandJoyce AITKEN - Age: 9 months Abode: 54 Mona Street Register: Burials 1922 - 1930, Page 172, Entry 1371 Burial: 10 Jul 1931 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, EnglandThomas Walter AITKEN - Age: 73 Abode: 31 Horrocks Street ( died at Thornley's Hospital) Register: Burials 1930 - 1940, Page 22, Entry 175 Burial: 8 Dec 1936 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, EnglandLouisa AITKEN - Age: 76 Abode: 25 Shackleton Grove Bolton Register: Burials 1930 - 1940, Page 137, Entry 1095 but I'm primarily interested in the last two - Thomas Walter and Louisa Aitken, who were my great-grandparents. If you can offer any help or advice, I would of course be delighted! Could I just ask a general question about the MI/graves project? Did you have to get the permission of the current vicar to start such a project? I live opposite a church with a graveyard, and have been wondering if I might be able to do something similar in the future - at the moment, other commitments mean I don't have the time to spare, but I feel it could be a useful thing to do, and also very interesting. Look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Janet Curran> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:59:22 +0100> Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] St Peters Halliwell - graveyard> > Hi Janet,> You're not wrong about the potential difficulty of finding the grave.> > There are getting on for 18,000 burials in the churchyard, and many of the> headstones have not survived.> > We are working on a complete grave transcription to be linked to the burial> transcripts, and ultimately we hope also to link in MIs and photographs of> the headstones. It's a massive project, of course, and not at all> straightforward so I can't make any immediate predictions for when the> additional data might begin to appear.> > But you do know how to win friends - thanks or your kind comments.> > If you'll send me the details you've found so far I'll see if it's possible> to locate the grave for you.> > Regards, Bob Thornley> _________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the next generation of Windows Live http://www.windowslive.co.uk/get-live :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/14/2008 06:32:18
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] St Peters Halliwell - graveyard
    2. Janet C
    3. Hi Bob Thanks for your interest. There are six burials listed which I think are 'mine', as follows:- Burial: 12 Feb 1904 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, EnglandRobert AITKIN - Age: 14 Abode: 6 Avondale Street Register: Burials 1895 - 1904, Page 185, Entry 1480 Burial: 8 Apr 1916 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, EnglandWalter AITKEN - Age: 35 Abode: 31 Horrocks Street Bolton Register: Burials 1913 - 1922, Page 45, Entry 360 Burial: 11 Mar 1920 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, EnglandHarry AITKEN - Age: 3 Abode: 3 Bowen Street Bolton Register: Burials 1913 - 1922, Page 140, Entry 1120 Burial: 13 Mar 1929 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, EnglandJoyce AITKEN - Age: 9 months Abode: 54 Mona Street Register: Burials 1922 - 1930, Page 172, Entry 1371 Burial: 10 Jul 1931 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, EnglandThomas Walter AITKEN - Age: 73 Abode: 31 Horrocks Street ( died at Thornley's Hospital) Register: Burials 1930 - 1940, Page 22, Entry 175 Burial: 8 Dec 1936 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, EnglandLouisa AITKEN - Age: 76 Abode: 25 Shackleton Grove Bolton Register: Burials 1930 - 1940, Page 137, Entry 1095 but I'm primarily interested in the last two - Thomas Walter and Louisa Aitken, who were my great-grandparents. If you can offer any help or advice, I would of course be delighted! Could I just ask a general question about the MI/graves project? Did you have to get the permission of the current vicar to start such a project? I live opposite a church with a graveyard, and have been wondering if I might be able to do something similar in the future - at the moment, other commitments mean I don't have the time to spare, but I feel it could be a useful thing to do, and also very interesting. Look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Janet Curran> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:59:22 +0100> Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] St Peters Halliwell - graveyard> > Hi Janet,> You're not wrong about the potential difficulty of finding the grave.> > There are getting on for 18,000 burials in the churchyard, and many of the> headstones have not survived.> > We are working on a complete grave transcription to be linked to the burial> transcripts, and ultimately we hope also to link in MIs and photographs of> the headstones. It's a massive project, of course, and not at all> straightforward so I can't make any immediate predictions for when the> additional data might begin to appear.> > But you do know how to win friends - thanks or your kind comments.> > If you'll send me the details you've found so far I'll see if it's possible> to locate the grave for you.> > Regards, Bob Thornley> _________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the next generation of Windows Live http://www.windowslive.co.uk/get-live

    04/14/2008 12:58:52
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] St Peters Halliwell - graveyard
    2. Bob Thornley
    3. Hi Janet, You're not wrong about the potential difficulty of finding the grave. There are getting on for 18,000 burials in the churchyard, and many of the headstones have not survived. We are working on a complete grave transcription to be linked to the burial transcripts, and ultimately we hope also to link in MIs and photographs of the headstones. It's a massive project, of course, and not at all straightforward so I can't make any immediate predictions for when the additional data might begin to appear. But you do know how to win friends - thanks or your kind comments. If you'll send me the details you've found so far I'll see if it's possible to locate the grave for you. Regards, Bob Thornley From: Janet C Does anyone know if there is an index to the graves at St Peter's Halliwell? I recently discovered - courtesy of the PR transcriptions on Lancs OPC site (and a huge thank you to the wonderful volunteers who do this transcription!) - that at least one of my direct ancestors is buried there. I would love to go and see the grave next time I'm able to get to Bolton, but have looked at the aerial shots of the graveyard on Google Maps, and realise it could be difficult to find a particular grave without some clues! Any advice would be greatly appreciated Janet Curran Lytham St Annes, Lancs

    04/14/2008 10:59:22
    1. [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] St Peters Halliwell - graveyard
    2. Janet C
    3. Does anyone know if there is an index to the graves at St Peter's Halliwell? I recently discovered - courtesy of the PR transcriptions on Lancs OPC site (and a huge thank you to the wonderful volunteers who do this transcription!) - that at least one of my direct ancestors is buried there. I would love to go and see the grave next time I'm able to get to Bolton, but have looked at the aerial shots of the graveyard on Google Maps, and realise it could be difficult to find a particular grave without some clues! Any advice would be greatly appreciated Janet Curran Lytham St Annes, Lancs _________________________________________________________________ Win 100’s of Virgin Experience days with BigSnapSearch.com http://www.bigsnapsearch.com

    04/14/2008 09:27:53
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Identifying unifoms help asked
    2. Valerie lirakis
    3. Hello Jean, I would love to display your photos on my website. Could you please scan them to me in their original size. My e-mail address is [email protected] Looking forward to receiving your photos. Best Regards, Valerie On 09/04/2008, Jean Cloherty <[email protected]> wrote: > > Valerie > I read a message about someone identifying something for another member I > was wondering if you would display some photos for me as I don't know > whether the unifroms are Army, Navy or Air Force and don't even know if they > are British, where they were born (UK or Ireland), or American, which is a > possibility as they emigrated, and would love some help on this. There are > no members of the family still alive for me to ask. > Please le me know how I can send you the photos. > Many thanks > Jean > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/10/2008 05:21:10
    1. [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Identifying unifoms help asked
    2. Jean Cloherty
    3. Valerie I read a message about someone identifying something for another member I was wondering if you would display some photos for me as I don't know whether the unifroms are Army, Navy or Air Force and don't even know if they are British, where they were born (UK or Ireland), or American, which is a possibility as they emigrated, and would love some help on this. There are no members of the family still alive for me to ask. Please le me know how I can send you the photos. Many thanks Jean

    04/09/2008 01:38:57
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Bolton Artillery
    2. Perle
    3. > Perle sent me a picture of her medal and I took this along to the > Firepower > Museum in Woolwich this morning. > http://www.army.mod.uk/royalartillery/ > The assumption is the thing is a sporting award. > Between 1928 and 1930 it was mechanised and re-named 53 (Bolton) Field > Regiment RA(TA) > [three- 18 pounder batteries; one- 4.5 inch howitzer battery; each with 4 > guns.] > So any young man of the area. Would of known and have been interested in > playing with these boy's toys! Hello Derek. Many thanks for taking the time I really appreciate you doing so, it certainly clears things up for me. As I said in a previous email to the list, Dad was a fabulous shot so the above explains it. Again Derek, many thanks. Regards. Perle Brooking. Younghusband. South Australia.

    04/09/2008 01:38:28
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Bolton Artillery
    2. Perle
    3. > I would try contacting either someone in local RA battery or the RA museum > to confirm the number as it probably has changed quite a number of times. Hello again Martin. Thanks for that, much appreciated. Regards. Perle Brooking. Younghusband. South Australia.

    04/08/2008 11:32:01
    1. [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Fw: [ENG-SHROP] Shrops Gene Pool
    2. Margaret Horrocks
    3. This was posted on the Shropshire Site, do we have anything like it in the North West. Margaret > > For anyone who has, or is thinking of, getting their DNA tested there is a > project which may interest them. It is called the British Isles DNA > Project and its main aims are "to assemble a detailed haplogroup map of > the British Isles by county, corresponding to the DNA profile of the > region's early history and settlement." I interpret this as trying to > establish whether the "gene pools" of counties can be identified. > > Shrops surnames listed are:- > > COTTRELL > EDWARDS > ELSON > HARWOOD > LARRANCE > LEE > OAKELEY > PLATT > STOKES > TIPTON > > The project's address is http://www.britishislesdna.com/index.htm > > I hope this is of interest and that some of you consider adding your > results to this study so that we can get a better picture of the county's > genes. > > :-) > _________________________________________________________________ > Amazing prizes every hour with Live Search Big Snap > http://www.bigsnapsearch.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/08/2008 07:41:57
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Bolton Artillery
    2. Perle
    3. > The number 216 seems to be associated with Bolton so I wonder if > there is a worn bit or a scratch and you have misread it. Whilst > there seems to be one battery number for Bolton now, I suspect that > in the 1920s each battery had a separate number. Hello Judy. Thanks for your email, much appreciated. The number is definately 210 as the medal/medallion is in perfect condition with not a mark or a scratch so I haven't misread it, again many thanks. Regards. Perle Brooking. Younghusband. South Australia.

    04/08/2008 05:36:01
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Bolton Artillery
    2. Perle
    3. > The Bolton Royal Artillery battery were based at the Drill Hall > Silverwell Street Bolton as a Territorial battery until the 1980s, I think > that was their HQ prior to WW1. Hello Jim. Thanks for your email, it was much appreciated. Regards. Perle Brooking. Younghusband. South Australia.

    04/08/2008 05:26:46
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Bolton Artillery
    2. Perle
    3. Hello Martin. Thanks for your email, it gave me some insight but I still wonder what a 17 year old was doing, would it be like our Army Reserves. I know Dad was a fabulous shot. Regards. Perle Brooking. Younghusband. South Australia.

    04/08/2008 05:25:19
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Bolton Artillery
    2. Perle sent me a picture of her medal and I took this along to the Firepower Museum in Woolwich this morning. http://www.army.mod.uk/royalartillery/ The assumption is the thing is a sporting award. >From Lieutenant- Colonel AnthonyJ WINGFIELD of Tottington Road, Hillside, Bolton (1976) book. Reformed in 1920 as 53 (East Lancashire) Brigade RFA(TA) Lt-Col. BPalin DOBSON TD Between 1928 and 1930 it was mechanised and re-named 53 (Bolton) Field Regiment RA(TA) [three- 18 pounder batteries; one- 4.5 inch howitzer battery; each with 4 guns.] So any young man of the area. Would of known and have been interested in playing with these boy's toys! Lt.-Col's (no dates) between the wars...... BP DOBSON TD Sir J NALL DSO TD MP D BROWN DSO TD F KNOWLES MC TD MD SCOWCROFT TD WRH WALKER TD G BENNETT TD (TD =Territorial Decoration 20 years commissioned service) >From History of the Royal Regiment of Artillery by Major General BP HUGHES(1992) in July 1920....53rd (Bolton) 42nd Division Silverwell Street, Bolton. Lieut.-Col. G BENNETT TD Adjt. THOMPSON, NG Capt. RA (12/10/34) 209 Bty. Major WINGFIELD, AJ 210 Bty. Major WILLIAMS, W 211H Bty Major WILSON, GE 212H Bty Major DOBSON, BAP Derek Crompton London South-East

    04/08/2008 02:55:37
    1. Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Bolton Artillery
    2. Martin Briscoe
    3. There could have been high unemployment in 1928 so perhaps he saw joining the TA as a way of getting some training and a route into possibly joining the regular army. I think could have been like your current reserves where members attend an evening each week, some weekends and an annual camp. Some would have joined the TA directly and others have already served in the regular Army (I think they were required to spend a period in the Reserve). I would try contacting either someone in local RA battery or the RA museum to confirm the number as it probably has changed quite a number of times. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Perle > Sent: 08 April 2008 02:55 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Bolton Artillery > > Hello Martin. > > Thanks for your email, it gave me some insight but I still > wonder what a 17 year old was doing, would it be like our > Army Reserves. I know Dad was a fabulous shot.

    04/08/2008 02:38:15