Can not thank you enough Janet,it is a great starting point Kindest regards Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet C" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] James MORGAN and Sarah BROUGHTON > > Hi Jan > > Lancs BMD website has what looks like the marriage in 1839:- > > James Morgan - Sarah Broughton, at Christ Church Ainsworth, (Registers at > Bury) Ref CE3/1/126 > > If you sent for the certificate this would give you both of their fathers' > names - or maybe someone would be able to look at the register for you > (available on microfilm at some local libraries), which would give you the > same information. > > Hope this is a starting point for you! > Regards > Janet C > Lytham St Annes, Lancs >> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: >> Fri, 2 May 2008 20:21:38 +1000> Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] James MORGAN >> and Sarah BROUGHTON> > Seeking parentage of James Morgan,born >> Abt.1814,Boulton,Lancashire.,Married ,Sarah Broughton,Lancashire >> Abt.1839.Migrated to Australia on the "United Kingdom"1841 with daughter >> Alice,also any info on Sarah.> Regards> Jan> > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: >> :-+-: :-+-: :-+-:> > Except for personal messages, please post replies to >> the list.> Other people can learn from them!> > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: >> :-+-: :-+-: :-+-:> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from >> the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > Win Indiana Jones prizes with Live Search > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000002ukm/direct/01/ > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Seeking parentage of James Morgan,born Abt.1814,Boulton,Lancashire.,Married ,Sarah Broughton,Lancashire Abt.1839.Migrated to Australia on the "United Kingdom"1841 with daughter Alice,also any info on Sarah. Regards Jan

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Hi Janice, Entry on free BDMs, James Morgan Married Sarah Broughton June 1839 in Bury Janice Angell <[email protected]> wrote: Seeking parentage of James Morgan,born Abt.1814,Boulton,Lancashire.,Married ,Sarah Broughton,Lancashire Abt.1839.Migrated to Australia on the "United Kingdom"1841 with daughter Alice,also any info on Sarah. Regards Jan :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jan Lancs BMD website has what looks like the marriage in 1839:- James Morgan - Sarah Broughton, at Christ Church Ainsworth, (Registers at Bury) Ref CE3/1/126 If you sent for the certificate this would give you both of their fathers' names - or maybe someone would be able to look at the register for you (available on microfilm at some local libraries), which would give you the same information. Hope this is a starting point for you! Regards Janet C Lytham St Annes, Lancs > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 20:21:38 +1000> Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] James MORGAN and Sarah BROUGHTON> > Seeking parentage of James Morgan,born Abt.1814,Boulton,Lancashire.,Married ,Sarah Broughton,Lancashire Abt.1839.Migrated to Australia on the "United Kingdom"1841 with daughter Alice,also any info on Sarah.> Regards> Jan> > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-:> > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list.> Other people can learn from them!> > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-:> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Win Indiana Jones prizes with Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000002ukm/direct/01/

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Hi Pam, I'm a Boltonian born and bred,cracking on a bit now but still able to tell the difference in local accents. Blackburn, Darwen or ( Daren) , Manchester, and Wigan speak,like (Ganning dant Lone) , My father told me Clog kicking was called Pawing, must have been painful with the Steel or Brass toecaps knocking bits off the shins. I can alwys found Clogs comfortable and warm and did plenty of skating on the the steel irons, then they invented rubber ones. Regards Jim pamela simmons <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks Jim I live in Leigh and one can still hear people using 'parred/purred' for 'kicking' as in "yer shu'd a sin yon mon - 'e parred yon baw frum one end o't fielt to't t'other " (You should have seen that man - he kicked that ball from one end of the field to the other). Bolton, Wigan, Leigh, Atherton, Westhoughton etc. all have slightly different accents /dialects and when I was a girl it was possible to tell which town people came from just by their accents. I don't think it is as obvious any more for the smaller towns but I think there is still a noticeable difference between the bigger towns like Wigan, Bolton & St Helens . Pamela :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Derek. Peter WOOD and Bob THORNLEY are both masters of Boltonian-speak ! I think they are both on this list and I can recommend them both highly ! Best wishes, Carolyn in AUS.

Thanks Jim I live in Leigh and one can still hear people using 'parred/purred' for 'kicking' as in "yer shu'd a sin yon mon - 'e parred yon baw frum one end o't fielt to't t'other " (You should have seen that man - he kicked that ball from one end of the field to the other). Bolton, Wigan, Leigh, Atherton, Westhoughton etc. all have slightly different accents /dialects and when I was a girl it was possible to tell which town people came from just by their accents. I don't think it is as obvious any more for the smaller towns but I think there is still a noticeable difference between the bigger towns like Wigan, Bolton & St Helens . Pamela

Hello everyone, I missed the first post of this but thought this may help. These are transcripts made from some early wills in Yorkshire, as you can see everything was of value, and I do mean everything. 1723, a weavers will , to dtr Mary, black russell coat, petty coat, blew coat, pr of linen sheets, 6 napkins, table cloth, long oak linen chest, etc etc. (Sic) 1732. Will. Possessions. £20. Squab cupboard, lamp, pepper pot, cheese plate, 2 tin dish covers, funnels, grater, coffee pot, cannister, 5 delft plates dishes, mugs, toasting iron, looking glass. (Sic) 1656 will. Purse & apparel 3s,Pair of shoes, table, form, etc 23s 4d. Bed & chist(chest?) 10s. codware, brass pot 3s4d one whie 36s 8d sum £4.2.0. Owing £3.4.11. 1682. Daughter of Jn Storr 1 of my best pewter dishes, Wife of Wm Hawson 1 of my best pewter dishes. Regards Maureen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "judy olsen" <[email protected]>To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Old Wills I think you have been seriously misinformed. Perhaps your informant was misled by the fact that many wills include clothing. This is because wearing apparel was comparatively expensive - everything was hand sewn and finer fabrics were imported and very costly. The old clothes you see in wills are items of value and could be altered to fit the next owner. Even in the 19th clothing was valuable enough to inspire the crime of child stripping in cities - a well dressed child would be dragged off the street and their clothes taken and sold. Judy On 28 Apr 2008, at 18:04, Margaret Horrocks wrote: > although I was assured at Preston, that > every one made a will, even if it was only old clothes they were > leaving. :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List Well done Pamela thats a very good translation, the word Purrin was common in the Wigan area where Purrin or Clog kicking fights or contests were common in the Mining areas. It involved contestants holding each other face to face kicking each others legs until one gave way. Jim pamela simmons <[email protected]> wrote: "Yes" replied the plaintiff "I have called and I dare not call again because the last time I went I said 'Now Thomas are you going to pay me a small amount towards what you owe and he said 'O yes, if you will stay a minute or two whilst I put my clogs on, I will pay you off all at once; I will give you such a kicking as you have not had in a long time" And they say the good old days!!!!! Pamela :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Margaret Meg is correct. Only about one third of adults make wills now and probably 90% have some assets to leave to leave. historically property (all descriptions) owning was considerably less. if a person had nothing to leave there was no need to pay a solicitor to prepare a will. Also, until the Married Women's Property Act 1870 (from memory) i believe what belonged to a wife also belonged to her husband and no will was necessary to transfer its ownership on death. Certainly that Act gave women the right to own and control personal property. Personal Property is effectively everything except freehold land. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meg Galley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Old Wills >I think it is most unlikely that everyone made a Will. They certainly >don't > today and I would have thought numbers would have been even lower then > especially for those who died in the Workhouse. > > Meg Galley-Taylor > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Margaret > Horrocks > Sent: 28 April 2008 18:04 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Old Wills > > Many thanks for the replies to my question about John Ainsworth Horrocks > who > > died 1841 and John Horrocks who died in Fishpool Workhouse, Farnworth on > 4th > > December 1871. I have looked at Preston, and tried the other sites, do > you > think they did not make a will? although I was assured at Preston, that > every one made a will, even if it was only old clothes they were leaving. > I will just have to keep on looking and hoping one will turn up. Margaret > Horrocks > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Derek i beleive it translates something like:- I called until I dared not to call any more, for the last time I called I said " Now Thomas. are you going to pay me something on account of what you owe me, and he said "" Oh yes' if you wait a minute or two whilst I put my clogs on I will pay you off all at once- I will give you a kicking such as you have not had lately" David ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:02 AM Subject: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Translation required > > Translation required for the following into English........The Judge > asked > Mrs CROMPTON at the Bolton court of Requests "Have you ever called upon > him > for the money?" > "Ay," replied the plaintiff, > "I've cawd ten aw dare not caw no longer: fer th'last time aw went aw > said, > 'Neaw, Tummus, are not yow gooin t' pay me a bit o' summut towrt it:' un > he > said 'Oh ya, if theaw'l stop a minute or two, well aw put my clugs on, > awl pay > thee off aw at once; awl gi'e the sich a purrin' as theaw's not had > lately.' > " > > Article from the Liverpool Mercury, Friday, July 24, 1840 > (nowt other info known. ) > > Derek Crompton > London South-East > > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

"Yes" replied the plaintiff "I have called and I dare not call again because the last time I went I said 'Now Thomas are you going to pay me a small amount towards what you owe and he said 'O yes, if you will stay a minute or two whilst I put my clogs on, I will pay you off all at once; I will give you such a kicking as you have not had in a long time" And they say the good old days!!!!! Pamela

In a message dated 30/04/2008 09:57:18 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: "Have you ever called upon him for the money?" "Ay," replied the plaintiff, "I've cawd ten aw dare not caw no longer: fer th'last time aw went aw said, 'Neaw, Tummus, are not yow gooin t' pay me a bit o' summut towrt it:' un he said 'Oh ya, if theaw'l stop a minute or two, well aw put my clugs on, awl pay thee off aw at once; awl gi'e the sich a purrin' as theaw's not had lately.' "Yes" "I've called till I dare not call no longer, for the last time I went I said, Now, Thomas, are not you going to pay me a bit of someting towards it, and he said. "Oh yes, if you will stay there a minute or two, wel, I'll put my clogs on, I'll pay you of all at once. I'll give you such a punching as you've not had lately". Dosnt sound half as good when its poshed up, does it. Jacqui Kilcoyne

Derek, Best I can do for you, not sure about the (sich a purrin) - but could mean " such a put in" meaning large amount?? "I, replied the plaintif. "I have called ten, and dare not called no longer, for the last time I went I said, Now Thomas, are not you going to pay me a bit of somthing towards it" and he said " Oh yes, if you will stop a minute or two, while I put my clogs on, I will pay you off all at once, I will give you ? ? ? as you have not had lately" Hope this is OK - Pam Clarke may be able to help ?? Regards Andrea

Translation required for the following into English........The Judge asked Mrs CROMPTON at the Bolton court of Requests "Have you ever called upon him for the money?" "Ay," replied the plaintiff, "I've cawd ten aw dare not caw no longer: fer th'last time aw went aw said, 'Neaw, Tummus, are not yow gooin t' pay me a bit o' summut towrt it:' un he said 'Oh ya, if theaw'l stop a minute or two, well aw put my clugs on, awl pay thee off aw at once; awl gi'e the sich a purrin' as theaw's not had lately.' " Article from the Liverpool Mercury, Friday, July 24, 1840 (nowt other info known. ) Derek Crompton London South-East

Have a look at the case of 10 year old Mary Wade in 1789 on the Old Bailey site. She was found guilty of stealing the clothes of another girl and sentenced to death. There was an appeal for clemency but the judge said that it was such a serious offence that he could not be lenient. http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t17890114-58-punish305&div=t178 90114-58#highlight She was transported to Australia because they needed more women so offered many convicted prisoners the option of transportation though some preferred death to Australia (no comment!) Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > joyce stevens > Sent: 29 April 2008 14:31 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Old Wills > > I was shocked to read of children being stripped of their > clothes if the clothes were valuable. > Then thought of nowadays the same thing occurs routinely when > kids wear expensive jackets and tennis shoes with designer labels. > Nothing new under the sun except the style of the clothes. > Joyce Stevens