Martin I have noticed that the Bolton Journal often reports individuals going off to be missionaries, sometimes as (Congregational) church reports. It would be well worth checking at the time of the marriage and also checking the indexes (far from complete) of the BJ/BEN in Bolton Library Unfortunately the BJ is not on the list of C19th newspapers to be on the Gale/BL site There may also be something at Dr William's Library in London - but their indexes are not brilliant Michael [email protected] on 27 May 2008 at 23:08 +0000 wrote: >I have been looking at one branch of the family today. > >Part of the family emigrated to the US in 1881 but we think that one of >their daughters, Elizabeth Ann ALLANSON, married Ebenezer Vicessimus >COOPER >in Bolton in 1880. She was from Farnworth and he from Bolton. > >I can't find him on the 1881/1891/1901 censuses but he appears to have >died >in Bolton in 1902. > >She is said to have ... > >"Her second daughter went to the South Sea Islands as a missionary after 2 >years was called to her heavenly reward" > >And he seems to have been a missionary > >On December 18, 1900, the chiefs of Tutuila congratulated U.S. President >William McKinley on his re-election, and expressed their admiration for >Governor Benjamin Franklin Tilley, saying "...you gave us a leader, a >Governor, a High Chief, whom we have learned to love and respect." The >Reverend Ebenezer Vicesimus Cooper of the London Missionary Society added >his praise, writing that "I cannot conceive of your finding a better man >to >represent your government in such delicate matters as must always be >associated with the task of 'annexing' than Commander Tilley." > >They appear to have been Congregationalists. I just wondered whether >anyone >had come across his name, not one that is easily forgotten!

Hello everyone, It's taken me a while but I've finally added the F and G surnames of the soldiers who served in the 2/6th Battalion Liverpool Kings (WW1) to my website: http://www.freewebs.com/liverpoolkings/ It's taking me longer than I thought to find the time to add it all, but if you have an ancestor you would like me to look up in the meantime, just let me know, only to happy to check the book, Tamara - Australia.

____________________________________ From: DJMFLAG To: [email protected] Sent: 5/18/2008 6:30:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Hannah Haworth I am looking for the parents of my ggg grandmother Hannah (nee Haworth) Sharples born in about 1803 and married Adam Sharples. She could also be listed under Ann Haworth Sharples. I have information about a marriage of a Thomas Haworth and Jane Tunstall in circa 1799. Hannah's first child Jane Sharples was born in 1827 to Adam and Hannah (Ann) Sharples and c. St. Mary's Virgin Church, Blackburn. Her first son was Thomas Sharples and because of that I am wondering if anyone has any information about Thomas and Jane Tunstall, particularly Jane as I am wondering where she was from Donna Collinge Martens, Muskegon, Michigan ____________________________________ Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? _Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food_ (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) . **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

Making quite a bit of progress on them overnight, I have pasted some answers below. Busy night, also been relaying some messages about a miner from Bristol whose grave has been found in Mexico! Nothing to do with Bolton but these are the pictures of the grave http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/J--M--B/JMGRAVE.jpg http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/J--M--B/HPIM5119a.jpg Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS Re: Missionaries « Reply #8 on: Today at 11:55:21 » ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Consular Death Indexes, 1881-1885: Elizabeth Ann Cooper, Tahiti, vol. 7, page 898 with the same reference, a Herbert Cooper - possibly her son? Consular Birth Indexes, 1881-1885: Herbert Wilson Cooper, Tahiti, Vol 7, page 1036 also, Consular Marriage Indexes, 1881-1885 Ebenezer Vicessimus Cooper, Vol 7, page 552. (There is at least one later birth reference which might be from Ebenezer's second marriage) Re: Missionaries « Reply #10 on: Today at 13:36:51 » ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- The Consular indexes are on a few sites (e.g. findmypast, familyrelatives, not sure if Ancestry has them). I recommend www.familyrelatives.com for free access to the overseas indexes. Copies of BMDs from the overseas indexes can be ordered from the GRO. I think the birth of Herbert Wilson Cooper and the death of Herbert whose middle name I can't quite read are probably the same child. Quite possibly mother and child died soon after Herbert's birth from complications of the delivery. The indexes do not give any information about Ebenezer's second wife - unless we can find a possible surname out from elsewhere and double-check. (Actually, it looks like there are only 62 pages of marriage indexes for that time-period, so you could work your way through looking for women married in Tahiti and then see who matches up with the reference). http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~funeralnotices/C2.html Here is a reference for his widows' death (from Auckland). Blanche Clara - doesn't help us with her maiden name, though. The Times, Monday, Apr 13, 1891; pg. 7; Issue 33297; col E It has been deemed expedient by the directors of the London Missionary Society to hand over their work in Tahiti, which began over 96 years ago, to the Paris Protestant Missionary Society. The Rev. E. V. Cooper, the last of the missionaries there, has sailed for England, and is expected about May 13. The Times, Thursday, Oct 27, 1892; pg. 5; Issue 33780; col F - reference to Rev. E. V. Cooper, who was present at a meeting in England of the London Missionary Society, and headed for Tutuila, Samoan Islands. The Times, Saturday, May 10, 1902; pg. 8; Issue 36764; col C Services For To-Morrow Christ Church, Westminster-bridge road - the Rev. E. V. Cooper, 6 30, London Missionary Society sermons. ETA: Evangelical Magazine and Missionary Chronicle 1883 seems to have an entry for the marriage - Ebenezer V. Cooper and Blanche Clara Henry. Marriage indexes shows Blanche Clara Henry at Vol 7 page 552, and also Julia Henry at Vol 7 page 552 (sister marrying at the same time?) There may be some info on this family in: Tahitiens: répertoire bio-bibliographique de la Polynésie française, although finding a copy might be a touch difficult.

Martin Trevor Griffiths used the data from the Hulton Colliery Explosion [1910] Relief Fund archives as a major source for his book, and his PhD research. Trevor is from Blackburn originally, and now lecturing at Edinburgh University. He agreed to help us with our LAN-OPC Pretoria Pit Disaster site, and provided a lot of information from his database which otherwise we would not have had access to, as current privacy rules have closed the archives (there are a lot of personal data in the archive) for 100 years from when the last recipient died - in 1973! There is also a lot of cotton spinning industry information in the book which makes interesting reading - mind you, the book is a product of detailed academic research, and written in that manner. Regards Peter Wood >Some books are only readable online. This one seems to have quite a lot on the history of Bolton. >The Lancashire Working Classes c. 1880-1930 >by Trevor Griffiths >Oxford University Press (2001) >408 pagesISBN: 9780199247387 >Martin Briscoe >Fort William

Yes seen that, fairly sure it must be her as everything else fits - there can't be many other people in Bolton marrying a South Seas missionary around then! :=) Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barb Baker > Sent: 28 May 2008 00:18 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Ebenezer Vicessimus COOPER > > There are matching entries for Ebenezer Vicessimus COOPER and > Elizabeth Ann ALLANSON in the FreeBMD Index. Second Quarter > of 1880, Volume 8c, Page 486, Bolton.

:=) I have found a reference to him The Missionary Year-book for 1889 has for Tahiti Mr Seville left in 1874, from ill-health, and for a time native pastors carried on the work; eventually Rev E V Cooper became the resident missionary and he still occupies the field It looks as if perhaps did marry to go out to Tahiti and then stayed there for the duration of his service (there are worse places to be as Jon Pertwee found when he failed to admit to his knowledge of French during WWII so a friend of his spent the rest of the war surrounded by dusky maidens on Tahiti whilst he went around RN Dockyards). Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Lynn Ransom Burton > Sent: 27 May 2008 23:14 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] Ebenezer Vicessimus COOPER > > Or > Congratulationists > -Lynn

I have been looking at one branch of the family today. Part of the family emigrated to the US in 1881 but we think that one of their daughters, Elizabeth Ann ALLANSON, married Ebenezer Vicessimus COOPER in Bolton in 1880. She was from Farnworth and he from Bolton. I can't find him on the 1881/1891/1901 censuses but he appears to have died in Bolton in 1902. She is said to have ... "Her second daughter went to the South Sea Islands as a missionary after 2 years was called to her heavenly reward" And he seems to have been a missionary On December 18, 1900, the chiefs of Tutuila congratulated U.S. President William McKinley on his re-election, and expressed their admiration for Governor Benjamin Franklin Tilley, saying "...you gave us a leader, a Governor, a High Chief, whom we have learned to love and respect." The Reverend Ebenezer Vicesimus Cooper of the London Missionary Society added his praise, writing that "I cannot conceive of your finding a better man to represent your government in such delicate matters as must always be associated with the task of 'annexing' than Commander Tilley." They appear to have been Congregationalists. I just wondered whether anyone had come across his name, not one that is easily forgotten! Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS

There are matching entries for Ebenezer Vicessimus COOPER and Elizabeth Ann ALLANSON in the FreeBMD Index. Second Quarter of 1880, Volume 8c, Page 486, Bolton. Barb, Ontario, Canada. -----

Or Congratulationists -Lynn Martin Briscoe wrote: > I have been looking at one branch of the family today. > > Part of the family emigrated to the US in 1881 but we think that one of > their daughters, Elizabeth Ann ALLANSON, married Ebenezer Vicessimus COOPER > in Bolton in 1880. She was from Farnworth and he from Bolton. > > I can't find him on the 1881/1891/1901 censuses but he appears to have died > in Bolton in 1902. > > She is said to have ... > > "Her second daughter went to the South Sea Islands as a missionary after 2 > years was called to her heavenly reward" > > And he seems to have been a missionary > > On December 18, 1900, the chiefs of Tutuila congratulated U.S. President > William McKinley on his re-election, and expressed their admiration for > Governor Benjamin Franklin Tilley, saying "...you gave us a leader, a > Governor, a High Chief, whom we have learned to love and respect." The > Reverend Ebenezer Vicesimus Cooper of the London Missionary Society added > his praise, writing that "I cannot conceive of your finding a better man to > represent your government in such delicate matters as must always be > associated with the task of 'annexing' than Commander Tilley." > > They appear to have been Congregationalists. I just wondered whether anyone > had come across his name, not one that is easily forgotten! > > > Martin Briscoe > Fort William > M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Someone mentioned on the MLFHS that Microsoft Live Book Search is closing so I have been busy seeing what I can find. http://search.live.com/books Must have downloaded quite a few hundred MB! Some books are only readable online. This one seems to have quite a lot on the history of Bolton. The Lancashire Working Classes c. 1880-1930 by Trevor Griffiths Oxford University Press (2001) 408 pagesISBN: 9780199247387 http://tinyurl.com/create.php Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS

Alice, Many thanks for the message, I have written to the NCH to ask if they have any records for this area. I will let you know the outcome. Margaret

I hope you get a helpful reply. Good luck with your search Alice

Hi, I have just sent for the Will of my great gradmother Ellen Lewis, who died on the 4th January 1904, because her husband had died 4 months earlier, she said in her Will that her daughters Frances Ellen and Gerturde and her son Arthur are to be cared for in a suitable Home for children and would expect the resident Wesleyan Minister to choose a suitable home. They lived on Chorley New Road, Horwich. My question is does any one know how I could find out which Childrens Home they were cared for in. Margaret Horrocks

Pam what suprised me that families from Halliwell are also represented in the baptisms at Deane church St Mary's Jim Pam Clarke <[email protected]> wrote: Hi List, After the postings regarding Kerenhappuch Howarth, I thought I would post my own HOWARTH ancestors to the List. My Great Grandfather was Abraham Howarth 1851-1932 he married Alice Ann Howarth 1860 -1918. They married at St Mary's Deane, Nov. 1882. As you can see there are now two sets of Howarth's. Abraham's father was William Howarth 1811-1881 (Wm.1) Alice Ann's father was also named William Howarth 1820-1897.(Wm.2) The Father of William Howarth (1) was James Howarth 1775-1851 I am still searching for the baptism/birth date of William Howarth (2) I have his age of 77 from his death certificate in 1897. The families were from Chew Moor, Lostock and Westhoughton (well Over Hulton as it was in those days). Have not done much on my own Howarth tree for years - must get back to it! Pam Clarke in Westhoughton. :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pam what suprised me that families from Halliwell are also represented in the baptisms at Deane church St Mary's Jim Pam Clarke <[email protected]> wrote: Hi List, After the postings regarding Kerenhappuch Howarth, I thought I would post my own HOWARTH ancestors to the List. My Great Grandfather was Abraham Howarth 1851-1932 he married Alice Ann Howarth 1860 -1918. They married at St Mary's Deane, Nov. 1882. As you can see there are now two sets of Howarth's. Abraham's father was William Howarth 1811-1881 (Wm.1) Alice Ann's father was also named William Howarth 1820-1897.(Wm.2) The Father of William Howarth (1) was James Howarth 1775-1851 I am still searching for the baptism/birth date of William Howarth (2) I have his age of 77 from his death certificate in 1897. The families were from Chew Moor, Lostock and Westhoughton (well Over Hulton as it was in those days). Have not done much on my own Howarth tree for years - must get back to it! Pam Clarke in Westhoughton. :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List, After the postings regarding Kerenhappuch Howarth, I thought I would post my own HOWARTH ancestors to the List. My Great Grandfather was Abraham Howarth 1851-1932 he married Alice Ann Howarth 1860 -1918. They married at St Mary's Deane, Nov. 1882. As you can see there are now two sets of Howarth's. Abraham's father was William Howarth 1811-1881 (Wm.1) Alice Ann's father was also named William Howarth 1820-1897.(Wm.2) The Father of William Howarth (1) was James Howarth 1775-1851 I am still searching for the baptism/birth date of William Howarth (2) I have his age of 77 from his death certificate in 1897. The families were from Chew Moor, Lostock and Westhoughton (well Over Hulton as it was in those days). Have not done much on my own Howarth tree for years - must get back to it! Pam Clarke in Westhoughton.

The main Methodist childrens' homes were run by the National Childrens Home and Orphanage, today known just as NCH _www.nch.org.uk_ (http://www.nch.org.uk) It might be worth contacting them to ask about the location of their homes in those days and possible records. The only NCHO home I know of in the NorthWest was in Frodsham, Cheshire but I expect there would have been others closer. Best wishes Alice Clarke

Pamela: Maybe your Howarth family and mine are related?? I have a detailed tree on line. Not much on the Howarth family, only in the U.S. If you want to see it email me and I'll send you the link and password. Janice USA Colorado In a message dated 5/22/2008 8:35:14 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi List, After the postings regarding Kerenhappuch Howarth, I thought I would post my own HOWARTH ancestors to the List. My Great Grandfather was Abraham Howarth 1851-1932 he married Alice Ann Howarth 1860 -1918. They married at St Mary's Deane, Nov. 1882. As you can see there are now two sets of Howarth's. Abraham's father was William Howarth 1811-1881 (Wm.1) Alice Ann's father was also named William Howarth 1820-1897.(Wm.2) The Father of William Howarth (1) was James Howarth 1775-1851 I am still searching for the baptism/birth date of William Howarth (2) I have his age of 77 from his death certificate in 1897. The families were from Chew Moor, Lostock and Westhoughton (well Over Hulton as it was in those days). Have not done much on my own Howarth tree for years - must get back to it! Pam Clarke in Westhoughton. :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

Janice Deane by Bolton, St Mary the Virgin, transcriptions of the following records online show the following, Baptisms - 1604 to 1750, Marriages - 1613 to 1750 Burials 1604 to 1684 with regards to daughter Keria you could obtain a birth cetificate for her, she was born September 1837 two months after the civil registration act came into force July that year, it would be available from the Bolton registry office. A copy of this would give date of birth, mothers former name , and home address of parents.