Hi John, It is on the Old Parish Reg. web site..... but unfortunately there is no follow up from it..... it comes under Billinge...Blackburn. The only other one I can find in the Billinge area is St Aidans..... (which is on the OPR's and goes back to the 1700 hundreds) both of them, are in the Revidge area of Blackburn. Sorry I couldn't help you more. -----Original Message----- From: John Hanson via Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 10:22 AM To: eng-lan-blackburn@rootsweb.com Cc: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [BLACKBURN] St Silas, Blackburn Can anyone help me please. I know from Lancashire BMD that Martha Annie Shaw married Frederick SCHOLES at St Silas in 1917. The church seems to have been built in Victorian times but it does not appear to have been listed in Lancashire OPC nor is it in the list of church on Ancestry's Lancashire Collection. Was it known as something else? Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! See http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Genealogical_Materials/GEN-MAT-UKI.html :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BLACKBURN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Happy Lancashire Day to all. Manchester Evening News has ways to celebrate plus a quiz to test knowledge about Lancashire at http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/lancashire-day-quiz-ways-celebrate-8186770?ptnr_rid=92034&icid=EM_MEN_Nletter_DailyNews_Features_Recommended_headline_Story1-1 or http://tinyurl.com/onlakx3 I raise my glass in a toast to Lancashire and to all of us. Kindest regards, Lynne

John I know St Silas very well having grown up in that area - I don't think it has ever been known by any other name. The list of parish registers held at Lancashire Archives in Preston list marriages 1901-1971 for St Silas (ref PR 3428) , but only as the original register. There is no mention of any microfilm copy, so I suspect it hasn't yet been digitised which would explain why it isn't part of the LanOPC or Ancestry collections. Regards Antony Marr -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-blackburn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-blackburn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Hanson via Sent: 27 November 2015 10:22 To: eng-lan-blackburn@rootsweb.com Cc: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [BLACKBURN] St Silas, Blackburn Can anyone help me please. I know from Lancashire BMD that Martha Annie Shaw married Frederick SCHOLES at St Silas in 1917. The church seems to have been built in Victorian times but it does not appear to have been listed in Lancashire OPC nor is it in the list of church on Ancestry's Lancashire Collection. Was it known as something else? Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! See http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Genealogical_Materials/GEN-MA T-UKI.html :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BLACKBURN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anne It may well be but it still doesn't answer the question about the online records. Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: Anne [mailto:pne.anne@ntlworld.com] Sent: 27 November 2015 11:04 To: John Hanson; lancsgen@rootsweb.com; eng-lan-blackburn@rootsweb.com Cc: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAN] St Silas, Blackburn Hi John, Is this the church. It comes under Billinge in the district of Blackburn. Church of England 1.St Silas, Preston New Road, Billinge, BB2 6PS St Silas is located at OS Grid Reference - SD 666284 Founded: 1894 Anne (Bolton, Lancashire). -----Original Message----- From: John Hanson via Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 10:22 AM To: eng-lan-blackburn@rootsweb.com Cc: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] St Silas, Blackburn Can anyone help me please. I know from Lancashire BMD that Martha Annie Shaw married Frederick SCHOLES at St Silas in 1917. The church seems to have been built in Victorian times but it does not appear to have been listed in Lancashire OPC nor is it in the list of church on Ancestry's Lancashire Collection. Was it known as something else? Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone help me please. I know from Lancashire BMD that Martha Annie Shaw married Frederick SCHOLES at St Silas in 1917. The church seems to have been built in Victorian times but it does not appear to have been listed in Lancashire OPC nor is it in the list of church on Ancestry's Lancashire Collection. Was it known as something else? Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk

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Hello listers, Apologies for the absence of posts regarding the Lancashire Online Parish Clerks website. Unfortunately my life was swamped by looking after my mum who sadly died last month. This post, therefore, is VERY long as it contains the details of the records added since 11th May! The search engine has been updated to include all records added up until 24th September and results will be returned in any general searches carried out. 24 September 2015 Baptisms 1892 to 1910 from the Workhouse of the Roman Catholic Church of St Joseph, Blackburn Baptisms 1855 to 1865 from the Church of All Saints, in the District of Chorlton-on-Medlock, Manchester Burials 1819 to 1823 from the New Jerusalem Temple, Salford Baptisms 1894 to 1896 from the Church of St Paul in the Parish of Stalybridge 17 September 2015 Baptisms 1900 to 1918 from the Church of St Cuthbert, in the Parish of Darwen Completing the Register of Baptisms for 1895 to 1918 Baptisms 1902 to 1904 from the Church of St Ambrose, Pendleton Baptisms 1895 to 1901 from the Church of St George, Pendleton Baptisms 1889 to 1904 from the Church of St Thomas, Pendleton Marriages 1936 to 1961 from the Church of St Paul in the Parish of Warrington Baptisms 1599 to 1730, Marriages 1608 to 1729 and Burials 1607 to 1729 from Newchurch Parish Church, Culcheth in the Parish of Winwick Including Papist and Presbyterian Baptisms from this period 7 September 2015 Burials 1813 to 1829 from the Church of St Margaret, Hollinwood Burials 1826 to 1832 from the Church of St Michael, Liverpool Burials 1945 to 1949 from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Pendlebury Completing the Register of Burials for 1840 to 1849 3 September 2015 Burials 1923 to 1940 and 1960 to 1984 from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Pendlebury Baptisms 1827 to 1850, Marriages 1880 to 1895 and Burials 1827 to 1848 from All Saints, Stand in the Parish of Whitefield Records of Baptisms and Burials 1827 to 1846 from the Bishop's Transcripts replaced with contents of the Parish Registers and extended to complete the respective Register 1 September 2015 Banns 1881 to 1889 from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Accrington Baptisms 1900 to 1905 from the Church of All Souls, in the District of Ancoats, Manchester Marriages 1916 to 1929, 1992 to 1994 and 2011 to 2014 from the Church of St Andrew, in the Parish of Burnley Baptisms 1937 to 1960 and Marriages 1911 to 1927 from the Church of St James in the Parish of Burnley Marriages 1902 to 1911 from the Church of St Margaret, in the Parish of Burnley Marriages 1857 to 1866 and 1877 to 1881 and Burials 1890 to 1901 from the Church of St Matthew, Chadderton Marriages 1907 to 1912 from the Church of St Cuthbert, in the District of Everton, Liverpool Completion of the the Register of Marriages for 1899 to 1912 Marriages 1870 to 1877 from the Church of St Peter, in the District of Everton, Liverpool Marriages 1899 to 1908 from the Church of St Saviour, in the District of Everton, Liverpool Baptisms 1853 to 1871 from the Church of St James, Haslingden Banns 1894 to 1900 from the Church of St Peter, Haslingden Baptisms 1813 to 1826 from the Church of St Margaret of Antioch, Hollinwood Baptisms 1871 to 1872 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool 17 August 2015 Marriages 1888 to 1899 from the Church of St Saviour, in the district of Everton, Liverpool Burials 1949 to 1960 from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Pendlebury Marriages 1875 to 1893 and 1901 to 1909 from the Church of St George, Pendleton Confirmations 1900 to 1950 from the Roman Catholic Church of the Mother of God & St James, Pendleton Baptisms 1920 to 1932 from the Church of St Paul in the Parish of Warrington Baptisms 1911 to 1915 and Marriages 1913 to 1918 from the Church of St Luke, in the District of Weaste, Salford Marriages 1872 to 1882 from the Church of St Thomas, Werneth, Oldham Baptisms 1853 to 1875 from the Church of St Bartholomew, Westhoughton Baptisms 1882 to 1932 from the Church of St James The Great, Daisy Hill, Westhoughton Baptisms 1826 to 1845 from the Church of St Peter, in the district of Woolton, Liverpool 11 August 2015 Banns 1871 to 1881 from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Accrington Marriages 1892 to 1920 from the Church of St James the Less , in the District of Ancoats, Manchester Marriages 1869 to 1939 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Mary in the Parish of Bamber Bridge Burials 1614 to 1637 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn Marriages 1920 to 1931 from the Church of St George the Martyr, Daubhill, Bolton le Moors Baptisms 1894 to 1905 from the Church of St Saviour, in the district of Everton, Liverpool Marriages 1897 to 1906 from the Church of St Mark, in the District of Gorton, Manchester Baptisms 1905to 1915 from Christ Church, Ince Marriages 1863 to 1874 And 1879 to 1892 from the Church of the Holy Trinity and St Mary Magdalene, Liverpool Burials 1721 to 1754 from All Saints in the Town of Wigan 5 August 2015 Baptisms 1903 to 1910 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Aloysius, in the District of Ardwick, Manchester Marriages 2000 to 2014 from the Church of St John the Baptist, Bretherton Burials 1901 to 1913 from the Church of St Matthew, Chadderton Baptisms 1653 to 1685 from the Church of St Michael and All Angels in the Parish of Croston A new transcription from the Original Register, containing many additional entries Baptisms 1837 to 1853 from the Church of St James, Haslingden Burials 1831 to 1846 from the Church of St Luke, Heywood Baptisms 1947 to 1960 from the Church of St Mary, Ince Marriages 1837 to 1848 from the Church of St Luke, Liverpool Burials 2012 to 2015 from the Church of St Leonard, Padiham More recent entries added Burials 2014 to 2015 from Padiham Public Cemetery More recent entries added Trustees 1845 to 2007 from Nazareth Unitarian Chapel, Padiham Baptisms 1853 to 1879 from St Mary in the Town of Preston Baptisms 1786 to 1812 from the Church of St James the Less in the Parish of Tatham Burials 1759 to 1769 from the Church of St Anne in the Parish of Turton Deaths 1911 to 1915 from the Roman Catholic Church of All Souls and St John Vianney, in the District of Weaste, Salford Banns 1867 to 1967 from the Church of St John, Yealand Conyers 4 August 2015 Marriages 1900 to 1911 from the Church of St James in the Parish of Burnley Completing the Register of Marriages for 1896 to 1911 Burials 2014 to 2015 from Burnley Cemetery More burials added the end of 2014 and beginning of 2015 Births 1778 to 1847, Burials 1787 to 1847 and Church Roll 1808 to 1843 from Ebenezer Baptist, Burnley Lane 3 August 2015 Baptisms 1844 to 1938 from the Church of St James, Brindle Updated to add two missing pages Burials 1821 to 1851 from Rusholme Rd Cemetery, in the District of Chorlton-on-Medlock, Manchester Baptisms 1828 to 1919, Marriages 1858 to 1915 and Burials 1828 to 1933 from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Ellel Baptisms 1878 to 1917, Banns 1965 to 1974 and Marriages 1918 to 1979 from the Church of St Laurence, Morecambe 20 July 2015 Banns 1951 to 2013 from the Church of St Matthew, Bolton le Moors Marriages 1984 to 1999 from the Church of St John the Baptist, Bretherton Marriages 1940 to 1952 from the Church of St Luke the Evangelist, Brierfield Baptisms 1900 to 1910, 1920 to 1936 and 1960 to 1990 from the Church of St James in the Parish of Burnley Burials 1877 to 1890 from the Church of St Matthew, Chadderton Marriages 1976 to 1988 from the Church of St Mary, Ince Marriages 1874 to 1879 from the Church of the Holy Trinity and St Mary Magdalene, Liverpool Baptisms 1873 and Marriages 1860 to 1861 and 1863 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool Marriages 1888 to 1897 from St Mary in the Town of Preston Baptisms 1721 to 1778 and Marriages 1721 to 1754 from All Saints in the Town of Wigan Deaths 1918 to 1921 and 1928 to 1930 from the Roman Catholic Church of All Souls and St John Vianney, in the District of Weaste, Salford Baptisms 1732 to 1752, Marriages 1733 to 1754 and Burials 1733 to 1752 from the Church of St Bartholomew, Westhoughton 25 June 2015 Marriages 1863 to 1905 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Aloysius, in the District of Ardwick, Manchester Baptisms 1862 to 1866 and 1903 to 1922 Baptisms the Roman Catholic Church of St Mary in the Parish of Ashton under Lyne Banns 1843 to 2014 and Marriages 1973 to 1984 from the Church of St John the Baptist, Bretherton Burials 1813 to 1862 from the Church of St James, Brindle Updated to add a missing page Baptisms 1835 to 1837 from Curzon St Primitive Methodist in the Parish of Burnley Adding a page missing from the original source Burials 1942 to 1947 from the Church of St Matthew, Chadderton Burials 1653 to 1680 from the Church of St Michael and All Angels in the Parish of Croston Reworked with additional entries added Baptisms 1944 to 2013 from the Church of St Paul, Halliwell, Bolton Baptisms 1863 to 1874 from the Church of St James the Less, in the district of Kirkdale, Liverpool Church Roll 1859 to 1916 from the Independent Chapel, Little Lever in Bolton le Moors Marriages 1850 to 1863 from the Church of the Holy Trinity and St Mary Magdalene, Liverpool Baptisms 1837 to 1838 and 1869 to 1870 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool Marriages 1871 to 1893 from the Church of the Holy Trinity, Oldham Baptisms 1665 to 1683 from the Church of St Chad, Rochdale Updated using the Parish Register as the source Baptisms 1907 to 1920 from the Church of St Paul in the Parish of Warrington Deaths 1915 to 1918 from the Roman Catholic Church of All Souls and St John Vianney, in the District of Weaste, Salford 18 June 2015 Marriages 1953 to 2010 from the Church of St Matthew, Bolton le Moors Marriages 1927 to 1940 from the Church of St Luke the Evangelist, Brierfield Marriages 1885 to 1899 from Victoria Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, in the District of Cheetham, Manchester Baptisms 1876 to 1885 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, Eccles Marriages 1837 to 1873 from the Church of St Luke, Heywood Baptisms 1849 to 1899 from the Church of St Mary in the Baum, Wardleworth in the Parish of Rochdale 9 June 2015 Baptisms 1910 to 1921 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Aloysius, in the District of Ardwick, Manchester Marriages 1884 to 1924 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Peter and St Paul, Bolton le Moors Church Roll 1863 to 1925 from St George's Rd Congregational Church, Little Bolton Church Roll 1805 to 1863 from Duke's Alley Chapel, Bolton le Moors Burials 1857 to 1867 from the Church of St Matthew, Chadderton Baptisms 1911 to 1944 from the Church of St Paul, Halliwell, Bolton Marriages 1961 to 1985 from the Church of St Nathaniel, in the Parish of Hindley Marriages 1826 to 1835 from the Church of St Michael, Liverpool Deaths 1922 to 1928 and Burials 1938 to 1942 from the Roman Catholic Church of All Souls and St John Vianney, in the District of Weaste, Salford 22 May 2015 Baptisms 1842 to 1855 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Peter and St Paul, Bolton le Moors Marriages 1744 to 1754 from the Church of St Michael in the Parish of Cockerham Burials 1852 to 1865 from the Church of St Margaret, Hollinwood Baptisms 1899 to 1905 from Christ Church, Ince Baptisms 1880 to 1889 and 1910 to 1914 from the Church of St Thomas, Pendleton Marriages 1892 to 1922 from the Church of Holy Trinity and St Mary Magdalene, Liverpool Baptisms 1873 to 1874 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool Baptisms 1902 to 1919 from the Church of St Barnabas in the Parish of Warrington Regards, Sally

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I have a John Walsh in my family history.He was born in Blackburn in 1827 , married Ester Braithwaite in 1851 they then had a daughter Ann in 1850,a son Henry in 1852,Christopher in 1859 and another daughter in 1860.Mary. Ann was my Great Grandmother,these are probably nothing to do with the John Walsh you are looking for but they may be a help. Regards On 26 July 2015 at 01:11, willybe via <eng-lan-blackburn@rootsweb.com> wrote: > HOLDEN....ECCLES...HERIOT...WALSH....I am researching the family of John > Walsh & families mid to late 1870"s...Found the other families on > Ancestry but unfortunately didn't add them to my tree. Now I am having > difficulties trying to remember how they are connected ...Hoping someone > will be able put me out of my misery.....Regards...Lillian OZ > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > See > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Genealogical_Materials/GEN-MAT-UKI.html > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-BLACKBURN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

>From Jane Milne 17921 Bolton FHS programme Coordinator/ publicist newsletter editor "Just to remind/ invite you all to our next meeting which will be on Wednesday August 5th at 7.30pm. We have Elaine Taylor MA, nationally acclaimed garden historian and Chair of the Association of Garden Trusts, coming to tell us about the creation of some local stately gardens, and in particular about Thomas Mawson who helped Lord Leverhulme design his Rivington estate. http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/section/26/rivington-terraced-gardens/. "The venue as usual is Bolton Cricket Club, off Green Lane Farnworth BL3 2JB and the usual help desks and magazine recycle desks will be available. "NB We also plan to have a book stall with a difference this month, as one of our longest serving members, is having to down size his house, and his family have offered his genealogy colleagues first option on his extensive personal collection of books on mainly Lancashire history and genealogy. There are some real gems here apparently. We are still processing these but some will be available for viewing and purchasing at very competitive prices at this meeting. For further information please email boltongenies@mlfhs.org.uk or Secretary Barbara Owen on 01204 309515 "Can I also just take this opportunity to remind you of our website http://www.bolton.mlfhs.org.uk/ and newsletter archive http://www.bolton.mlfhs.org.uk/Newsletter.php "Many thanks "Jane Milne 17921 Bolton FHS programme Coordinator/ publicist newsletter editor"

And I'd also put odds on Alice being : Name: Alice Smith Gender: Female Christening Date: 20 Apr 1823 Christening Place: RIBCHESTER-RC,RIBCHESTER,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND Birth Date: 19 Apr 1823 Father's Name: Jeromiah Smith Mother's Name: Alice Bolton Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P00674-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 942 B4C V. 36 Reference ID: The family are living in Cleaver St, Blackburn in 1851 with Jeromiah going under the name Jeremy. As Alice later named a son Jeremiah (Elizabeth's younger brother) there is a good connection there. Does this all make sense, my initial problem was there were two Henry and Alice Holdens of the same approximate age both with a daur Elizabeth born in the right area. Alice is baptised RC which is why she would have a civil marriage (probably the religious one's records aren't public). BobC On 01/08/2015 12:18, familyhistory via wrote: > Scrub the last part of that - I've just looked at the 1861 and 1871 > censuses and it shows Elizabeth with a brother, Jeremiah, a much better > name to check on and also a Rodger : > > Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1858 > HOLDEN Jeremiah Chipping Preston SMITH CH/5/70 > > Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1859 > HOLDEN Roger Chipping Preston SMITH CH/5/95 > > and to complete the picture we have > > Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1854 > HOLDEN Elizabeth Chipping Preston SMITH CH/4/87 > > The 1861 census shows them all born at Woodfields, 1871 shows Alice born > Woodfields, Stoneyhurst > So things point to a Alice Smith who married Henry Holden at Blackburn > Register Office in 1852. (RM/11/20) > > BobC > > On 01/08/2015 10:22, familyhistory via wrote: >> I've had a quick look at the Lancashire BMD registrations for 1853 and >> there are no Elizabeth Holden's registered for Blackburn. However there >> are two for the Chipping Sub-District R.D. and two for Garstang. >> Looking at the indexes using FMP there are two for Clitheroe which is >> where I would expect for a Stoneyhurst birth (these may be the Chipping >> ones in LBMD) >> >> HOLDEN Elizabeth Chipping Preston BOLTON CH/4/79 >> HOLDEN Elizabeth Chipping Preston ISHERWOOD CH/4/73 >> HOLDEN Elizabeth Garstang Preston WAINMAN GAR/6/74 >> HOLDEN Elizabeth Garstang Preston WOODS GAR/6/74 >> >> Of course this all depends on Elizabeth having been born in 1853, >> widening the search by a couple of years will add to the possibilities. >> >> There is the marriage of a Henry Holden to Alice Bolton in 1852 - a >> "Ribble" Register Office amrriage in 1852 whic would fit in well with >> CH/4/79 above. If they had a civil marriage then looking for a baptism >> may be a little optimistic, I would guess they were R.C or non-conformist. >> >> HTH BobC >> >> On 01/08/2015 05:26, John Hanson via wrote: >>> Barbara >>> It looks like the record is for the Bishops Transcripts. The other places >>> listed with St Mary are the Chapelries (sister churches) attached to St >>> Mary. >>> >>> Have you looked at Lancashire BMD www.lancashirebmd.org.uk - it lists the >>> mothers maiden name for all of the Elizabeth's - would be a question of >>> working through the list to find out which. Mind you could try looking for >>> the other children in the family as well >>> >>> Regards >>> John Hanson >>> Researcher, The Halsted Trust >>> Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: eng-lan-blackburn-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:eng-lan-blackburn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lewisroots via >>> Sent: 01 August 2015 03:16 >>> To: ENG-LAN-BLACKBURN@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [BLACKBURN] Need parents of Elizabeth Holden >>> >>> Listers, we have an Elizabeth HOLDEN, born 1853 to a Henry HOLDEN and >>> Alice? It's Alice's last name we need...so we need the birth certificate >>> for the child Elizabeth. >>> >>> Now, we could send for the certificate, but I always look first to see if >>> baptisms that year are listed in the lds catalog for that parish, because I >>> have access to those films. >>> >>> But, as you know, there are many churches in Blackburn..but the family was >>> listed in the 1861 census showing the location as "St. Mary's in Blackburn, >>> so I looked for that listing in the catalog and the catalog page confuses >>> me with those baptisms that go up to 1854, as shown. It just lists the >>> OTHER churches.....perhaps I'm not reading it right >>> >>> https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/617248?availability=Family%20History >>> %20Library >>> >>> Would someone get into the above link and see if you can figure out what >>> film no. those baptisms are found? >>> Unfortunately the Local BMDs haven't uploaded baptisms for that time >>> period.. >>> >>> Actually Elizabeth was shown in the census records as being born in >>> Stonyhurst...but you locals know that's not a parish, and being from an >>> outlying area, she was probably brought into the city to be baptized? >>> Perhaps someone could enlighten me on this? Or perhaps there was another >>> parish church closer to Stonyhurst? >>> >>> There is another Elizabeth HOLDEN baptized in St. Mary's abt the same year, >>> but with different parents I'd really appreciate someone's help on this. >>> >>> Barbara L. >>> -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk

Scrub the last part of that - I've just looked at the 1861 and 1871 censuses and it shows Elizabeth with a brother, Jeremiah, a much better name to check on and also a Rodger : Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1858 HOLDEN Jeremiah Chipping Preston SMITH CH/5/70 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1859 HOLDEN Roger Chipping Preston SMITH CH/5/95 and to complete the picture we have Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1854 HOLDEN Elizabeth Chipping Preston SMITH CH/4/87 The 1861 census shows them all born at Woodfields, 1871 shows Alice born Woodfields, Stoneyhurst So things point to a Alice Smith who married Henry Holden at Blackburn Register Office in 1852. (RM/11/20) BobC On 01/08/2015 10:22, familyhistory via wrote: > I've had a quick look at the Lancashire BMD registrations for 1853 and > there are no Elizabeth Holden's registered for Blackburn. However there > are two for the Chipping Sub-District R.D. and two for Garstang. > Looking at the indexes using FMP there are two for Clitheroe which is > where I would expect for a Stoneyhurst birth (these may be the Chipping > ones in LBMD) > > HOLDEN Elizabeth Chipping Preston BOLTON CH/4/79 > HOLDEN Elizabeth Chipping Preston ISHERWOOD CH/4/73 > HOLDEN Elizabeth Garstang Preston WAINMAN GAR/6/74 > HOLDEN Elizabeth Garstang Preston WOODS GAR/6/74 > > Of course this all depends on Elizabeth having been born in 1853, > widening the search by a couple of years will add to the possibilities. > > There is the marriage of a Henry Holden to Alice Bolton in 1852 - a > "Ribble" Register Office amrriage in 1852 whic would fit in well with > CH/4/79 above. If they had a civil marriage then looking for a baptism > may be a little optimistic, I would guess they were R.C or non-conformist. > > HTH BobC > > On 01/08/2015 05:26, John Hanson via wrote: >> Barbara >> It looks like the record is for the Bishops Transcripts. The other places >> listed with St Mary are the Chapelries (sister churches) attached to St >> Mary. >> >> Have you looked at Lancashire BMD www.lancashirebmd.org.uk - it lists the >> mothers maiden name for all of the Elizabeth's - would be a question of >> working through the list to find out which. Mind you could try looking for >> the other children in the family as well >> >> Regards >> John Hanson >> Researcher, The Halsted Trust >> Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eng-lan-blackburn-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:eng-lan-blackburn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lewisroots via >> Sent: 01 August 2015 03:16 >> To: ENG-LAN-BLACKBURN@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [BLACKBURN] Need parents of Elizabeth Holden >> >> Listers, we have an Elizabeth HOLDEN, born 1853 to a Henry HOLDEN and >> Alice? It's Alice's last name we need...so we need the birth certificate >> for the child Elizabeth. >> >> Now, we could send for the certificate, but I always look first to see if >> baptisms that year are listed in the lds catalog for that parish, because I >> have access to those films. >> >> But, as you know, there are many churches in Blackburn..but the family was >> listed in the 1861 census showing the location as "St. Mary's in Blackburn, >> so I looked for that listing in the catalog and the catalog page confuses >> me with those baptisms that go up to 1854, as shown. It just lists the >> OTHER churches.....perhaps I'm not reading it right >> >> https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/617248?availability=Family%20History >> %20Library >> >> Would someone get into the above link and see if you can figure out what >> film no. those baptisms are found? >> Unfortunately the Local BMDs haven't uploaded baptisms for that time >> period.. >> >> Actually Elizabeth was shown in the census records as being born in >> Stonyhurst...but you locals know that's not a parish, and being from an >> outlying area, she was probably brought into the city to be baptized? >> Perhaps someone could enlighten me on this? Or perhaps there was another >> parish church closer to Stonyhurst? >> >> There is another Elizabeth HOLDEN baptized in St. Mary's abt the same year, >> but with different parents I'd really appreciate someone's help on this. >> >> Barbara L. >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> >> :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: >> >> Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. >> Other people can learn from them! >> >> Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. 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I've had a quick look at the Lancashire BMD registrations for 1853 and there are no Elizabeth Holden's registered for Blackburn. However there are two for the Chipping Sub-District R.D. and two for Garstang. Looking at the indexes using FMP there are two for Clitheroe which is where I would expect for a Stoneyhurst birth (these may be the Chipping ones in LBMD) HOLDEN Elizabeth Chipping Preston BOLTON CH/4/79 HOLDEN Elizabeth Chipping Preston ISHERWOOD CH/4/73 HOLDEN Elizabeth Garstang Preston WAINMAN GAR/6/74 HOLDEN Elizabeth Garstang Preston WOODS GAR/6/74 Of course this all depends on Elizabeth having been born in 1853, widening the search by a couple of years will add to the possibilities. There is the marriage of a Henry Holden to Alice Bolton in 1852 - a "Ribble" Register Office amrriage in 1852 whic would fit in well with CH/4/79 above. If they had a civil marriage then looking for a baptism may be a little optimistic, I would guess they were R.C or non-conformist. HTH BobC On 01/08/2015 05:26, John Hanson via wrote: > Barbara > It looks like the record is for the Bishops Transcripts. The other places > listed with St Mary are the Chapelries (sister churches) attached to St > Mary. > > Have you looked at Lancashire BMD www.lancashirebmd.org.uk - it lists the > mothers maiden name for all of the Elizabeth's - would be a question of > working through the list to find out which. Mind you could try looking for > the other children in the family as well > > Regards > John Hanson > Researcher, The Halsted Trust > Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lan-blackburn-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-lan-blackburn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lewisroots via > Sent: 01 August 2015 03:16 > To: ENG-LAN-BLACKBURN@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BLACKBURN] Need parents of Elizabeth Holden > > Listers, we have an Elizabeth HOLDEN, born 1853 to a Henry HOLDEN and > Alice? It's Alice's last name we need...so we need the birth certificate > for the child Elizabeth. > > Now, we could send for the certificate, but I always look first to see if > baptisms that year are listed in the lds catalog for that parish, because I > have access to those films. > > But, as you know, there are many churches in Blackburn..but the family was > listed in the 1861 census showing the location as "St. Mary's in Blackburn, > so I looked for that listing in the catalog and the catalog page confuses > me with those baptisms that go up to 1854, as shown. It just lists the > OTHER churches.....perhaps I'm not reading it right > > https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/617248?availability=Family%20History > %20Library > > Would someone get into the above link and see if you can figure out what > film no. those baptisms are found? > Unfortunately the Local BMDs haven't uploaded baptisms for that time > period.. > > Actually Elizabeth was shown in the census records as being born in > Stonyhurst...but you locals know that's not a parish, and being from an > outlying area, she was probably brought into the city to be baptized? > Perhaps someone could enlighten me on this? Or perhaps there was another > parish church closer to Stonyhurst? > > There is another Elizabeth HOLDEN baptized in St. Mary's abt the same year, > but with different parents I'd really appreciate someone's help on this. > > Barbara L. > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > > See > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Genealogical_Materials/GEN-MA > T-UKI.html > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LAN-BLACKBURN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > See http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Genealogical_Materials/GEN-MAT-UKI.html > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BLACKBURN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Bob C http://www.bccy.org.uk and http://extra.bccy.org.uk

Barbara It looks like the record is for the Bishops Transcripts. The other places listed with St Mary are the Chapelries (sister churches) attached to St Mary. Have you looked at Lancashire BMD www.lancashirebmd.org.uk - it lists the mothers maiden name for all of the Elizabeth's - would be a question of working through the list to find out which. Mind you could try looking for the other children in the family as well Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lan-blackburn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lan-blackburn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lewisroots via Sent: 01 August 2015 03:16 To: ENG-LAN-BLACKBURN@rootsweb.com Subject: [BLACKBURN] Need parents of Elizabeth Holden Listers, we have an Elizabeth HOLDEN, born 1853 to a Henry HOLDEN and Alice? It's Alice's last name we need...so we need the birth certificate for the child Elizabeth. Now, we could send for the certificate, but I always look first to see if baptisms that year are listed in the lds catalog for that parish, because I have access to those films. But, as you know, there are many churches in Blackburn..but the family was listed in the 1861 census showing the location as "St. Mary's in Blackburn, so I looked for that listing in the catalog and the catalog page confuses me with those baptisms that go up to 1854, as shown. It just lists the OTHER churches.....perhaps I'm not reading it right https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/617248?availability=Family%20History %20Library Would someone get into the above link and see if you can figure out what film no. those baptisms are found? Unfortunately the Local BMDs haven't uploaded baptisms for that time period.. Actually Elizabeth was shown in the census records as being born in Stonyhurst...but you locals know that's not a parish, and being from an outlying area, she was probably brought into the city to be baptized? Perhaps someone could enlighten me on this? Or perhaps there was another parish church closer to Stonyhurst? There is another Elizabeth HOLDEN baptized in St. Mary's abt the same year, but with different parents I'd really appreciate someone's help on this. Barbara L. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! See http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Genealogical_Materials/GEN-MA T-UKI.html :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LAN-BLACKBURN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Listers, we have an Elizabeth HOLDEN, born 1853 to a Henry HOLDEN and Alice? It’s Alice’s last name we need...so we need the birth certificate for the child Elizabeth. Now, we could send for the certificate, but I always look first to see if baptisms that year are listed in the lds catalog for that parish, because I have access to those films. But, as you know, there are many churches in Blackburn..but the family was listed in the 1861 census showing the location as “St. Mary’s in Blackburn, so I looked for that listing in the catalog and the catalog page confuses me with those baptisms that go up to 1854, as shown. It just lists the OTHER churches.....perhaps I’m not reading it right https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/617248?availability=Family%20History%20Library Would someone get into the above link and see if you can figure out what film no. those baptisms are found? Unfortunately the Local BMDs haven’t uploaded baptisms for that time period.. Actually Elizabeth was shown in the census records as being born in Stonyhurst...but you locals know that’s not a parish, and being from an outlying area, she was probably brought into the city to be baptized? Perhaps someone could enlighten me on this? Or perhaps there was another parish church closer to Stonyhurst? There is another Elizabeth HOLDEN baptized in St. Mary’s abt the same year, but with different parents I’d really appreciate someone’s help on this. Barbara L. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

HOLDEN....ECCLES...HERIOT...WALSH....I am researching the family of John Walsh & families mid to late 1870"s...Found the other families on Ancestry but unfortunately didn't add them to my tree. Now I am having difficulties trying to remember how they are connected ...Hoping someone will be able put me out of my misery.....Regards...Lillian OZ

Does anyone have any info re. John William Walsh born 1917 Darwen Lancashire he was the son of Ley Walsh ...John William died 1982 St.Johns Newfoundland Also . searching for info re. the following ...John Walsh (b) 12/7.1812....Alice Walsh (b) 15/4/1815...Richard Walsh (b) 3/3/1817...Betty Walsh (b) 16/10/1819...Alice Walsh (b) 15/12/1824....all born Lancashire...children of John Walsh & Alice Marsden married 2 Jan 1815 St. Marys Lancaster...Some of these families went to Livesy and Blackburn...John and Alice were my G.Great grandparents. Regards....Lillian

Mark your calendars: On 19th September 2015, Lancashire Family History and Heraldry Society will hold its annual fair. This annual event will bring together local researchers and organisations to celebrate Lancashire family history. Expert volunteers will be on hand offer advice to visitors in their research and invaluable books on local history, records, and fiche will be available to purchase. This will be a wonderful opportunity to meet with fellow researchers and to share ideas and findings. The fair will be held at King George's Hall, Northgate, Blackburn, BB2 1AA from 10am to 4pm. Entry to the fair is free and everyone is welcome.

>From Bolton & District FHS: The next meeting of the Bolton & District branch of MLFHS will be on July 1st, which sees Cllr John Walsh coming to take us for “A Bolton Ramble”. Many will know of John as an experienced Bolton councillor, having served intermittently since at least 1975, and also Bolton Mayor from 2002 -2003 (http://www.boltonsmayors.org.uk/walsh-j.html). He is a proud Boltonian, and remains a staunch supporter of Lancashire Day on November 27th, and a very vocal critic of the change of county boundaries in which Bolton lost its Lancashire link (http://tinyurl.com/ndrecx5). I am advised that his talks can be somewhat “unpredictable”, but always interesting and amusing. We await his anecdotes with interest!! The meeting will be as usual at 7.30pm at Bolton Cricket Club, Green Lane, Farnworth BL3 2JB. and all are welcome. A Help Desk will be available afterwards for private research help, a recycle desk for old genealogical magazines, cds, etc, and a stationery stall offering archive standarditems at discount. For further information please consult our website at http://www.bolton.mlfhs.org.uk/ , email bolton@mlfhs.org.uk, or contact Secretary Barbara Owen on 01204 309515.

----- Original Message ----- From: willybe To: eng-lan-blackburn@rootsweb.com \ Subject: Fw: Walsh ----- Original Message ----- From: willybe To: ENG-LAN-BLACBURN@rootsweb.com \ Subject: Walsh Does anyone have any info re. John William Walsh born 1917 Darwen Lancashire he was the son of Ley Walsh ...John William died 1982 St.Johns Newfoundland Also . searching for info re. the following ...John Walsh (b) 12/7.1812....Alice Walsh (b) 15/4/1815...Richard Walsh (b) 3/3/1817...Betty Walsh (b) 16/10/1819...Alice Walsh (b) 15/12/1824....all born Lancashire...children of John Walsh & Alice Marsden married 2 Jan 1815 St. Marys Lancaster...Some of these families went to Livesy and Blackburn...John and Alice were my G.Great grandparents. Regards....Lillian