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    1. [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Fear & Fun - Woodchurch during the Second World War
    2. Gary Samson
    3. 'Fear & Fun' by local authors John Pellett and Jim Addy is now available to buy online at: www.goldbern.co.uk/woodchurch/fearfun.htm John Pellett and Jim Addy have compiled a fascinating 48-page, A4 booklet of life in Woodchurch during the Second World War. All material for the book comes from first-hand accounts of older Woodchurch inhabitants who lived through those terrifying but (for young boys, especially!) exciting years when Woodchurch was very much on the front line of the war in Europe. Included are accounts of the Woodchurch Home Guard, the Battle of Britain, German air raids, the arrival of US troops and the fighter airstrip at Henghurst, enemy prisoners of war, and the build-up to D-Day. Illustrated throughout with black-and-white photographs of the contributors. This is an informal but utterly absorbing local history for anyone wanting to look beyond the official facts and figures and understand what life was like for ordinary men and women in Woodchurch on the home front. Gary Samson Canterbury, Kent *Also available* 'A Stroll Around the Green' www.goldbern.co.uk/woodchurch/stroll.htm

    04/28/2007 09:21:48
    1. [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] HENMAN family
    2. Cheri Marshall
    3. Hi list I have just joined. Is anyone else researching the HENMAN family at all? thanks Cheri Brisbane

    04/27/2007 12:44:52
    1. [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Date of Meeting
    2. BOB CHOWN
    3. Dear Josie Dear all 10.30 am July 7th 2007 at the Museum is fine with Bob and Pat Chown and afterwards at the Six Bells for lunch. Bobchown@aol.com is now redundant for everyone's records. Best wishes - Bob Chown

    04/27/2007 09:50:11
    1. Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Catherine DITTON
    2. Philip Whitehead
    3. May I also add the Swinerds also went to South Africa and Zanzibar. Most of then travelled abroad to work on various railways after having worked in the Ashford Railway works. Philip ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Swinerd" <a.swinerd@btinternet.com> To: <eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Catherine DITTON > Descendents of the Swineyard/Swinyard/Swynyard family, Woodchurch based > 1630 > to 1750, are > now living in America, Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Brazil. > Regards > Dave Swinerd > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Samson" <gsamson@goldbern.co.uk> > To: <eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 6:52 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Catherine DITTON > > >> Martin, I suspect we might have reached pandemic proportions by now! It >> would certainly be interesting to find out how many countries have >> settled and resident families that originated from Woodchurch. >> Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the US are obvious destinations that >> we already know about but I wonder how many other Woodchurch families >> there are living in less obvious, non-English-speaking countries. If you >> know of any, please let me know and I'll compile a list. >> >> Gary Samson >> Canterbury, Kent >> >> NOW Available Online! 'A Stroll Around the Green' >> www.goldbern.co.uk/woodchurch/stroll.htm >> >> >> Martin Willcocks said the following on 21.04.2007 15:40: >> > Hi all: >> > >> > It's amazing how far the Woodchurch community has spread! Though I am >> > not in a direct Ditton line, there is at least one Ditton twig in my >> > tree (John Ditton m. Bennet King 19 Oct 1806 Woodchurch) Probably a >> > bit >> > too early for Patricia's ggf but could John and Bennet be in her tree > too? >> > >> > Regards >> > Martin Willcocks >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/24/2007 01:44:01
    1. Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Catherine DITTON
    2. A Swinerd
    3. Descendents of the Swineyard/Swinyard/Swynyard family, Woodchurch based 1630 to 1750, are now living in America, Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Brazil. Regards Dave Swinerd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Samson" <gsamson@goldbern.co.uk> To: <eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Catherine DITTON > Martin, I suspect we might have reached pandemic proportions by now! It > would certainly be interesting to find out how many countries have > settled and resident families that originated from Woodchurch. > Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the US are obvious destinations that > we already know about but I wonder how many other Woodchurch families > there are living in less obvious, non-English-speaking countries. If you > know of any, please let me know and I'll compile a list. > > Gary Samson > Canterbury, Kent > > NOW Available Online! 'A Stroll Around the Green' > www.goldbern.co.uk/woodchurch/stroll.htm > > > Martin Willcocks said the following on 21.04.2007 15:40: > > Hi all: > > > > It's amazing how far the Woodchurch community has spread! Though I am > > not in a direct Ditton line, there is at least one Ditton twig in my > > tree (John Ditton m. Bennet King 19 Oct 1806 Woodchurch) Probably a bit > > too early for Patricia's ggf but could John and Bennet be in her tree too? > > > > Regards > > Martin Willcocks > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/23/2007 01:59:37
    1. Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Catherine DITTON
    2. Josie Mackie
    3. Hello Patricia, What an interesting story, thank you for sharing it. If the father isn't named on your grandfather's birth certificate, and I suppose not, then I'm at a loss apart from wondering if any of the older inhabitants of the village have long memories! 1901 is too early for anyone to remember his birth, of course, but it's only one generation too early. best wishes, Josie

    04/22/2007 02:53:57
    1. Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Catherine DITTON
    2. Josie Mackie
    3. Dear Gary, That's an interesting problem, given that you can never be really sure that the men you think are your ancestors actually are. It's always amazed me that in the early days of genealogy it was the paternal line that was considered important, and the maternal far less so, when it's usually obvious that a woman is about to give birth, but definitely not obvious who the father is. The line I, personally, am most sure about is my mother's mother's mother's etc. even though I have documentary evidence for all my other lines! (Sorry, ancestors, I'm not trying to cast aspersions!!!) Do we know when the grandfather was born, or his name? The date of his birth? Is it likely to have happened within living memory? She might try looking for the will of her supposed great-grandfather, or even his close family. But unless the grandfather is named somewhere as 'my natural son...' it seems unlikely that she will ever be able to prove it. It probably happened too late (the 18th century and before has some good examples of men being caught up with to look after putative natural offspring) for there to be parish records, but you never know. It's amazing what turns up sometimes. Josie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Samson" <gsamson@goldbern.co.uk> To: <eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 2:22 PM Subject: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Catherine DITTON > Hi Everyone, > > This morning I received a snail mail request from Patricia Courtney in > France for copies of 'Woodchurch Then & Now' and 'A Stroll Around the > Green'. In her accompanying letter she asks, "My Grandfather was born in > Woodchurch, the illegitimate son of Catherine Ditton -- I am pretty sure > I know who his natural father was, but how does one prove such a thing > as the evidence is anecdotal?" Now, I appreciate that really isn't much > to go on at all, but does that ring a bell for any of you researching > the Ditton family? > > All the best > > Gary Samson > Canterbury, Kent > > *Now Available* 'A Stroll Around the Green' > www.goldbern.co.uk/woodchurch/stroll.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/22/2007 09:25:41
    1. Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Catherine DITTON
    2. Hi, I am that Patricia Courtney in France who still uses snail mail, and Catherine Ditton was my great grandmother, the evidence I have is this: My grandfather always said his mother was not allowed to marry his natural father as he was blind, and I suppose in 1901 that could be so, however, I have a letter in my possesion from a lady (I will mention no names) saying her brother had died, this was in 1960 and he had left my grandad £50, his name was Alfred, same as grandads and when I have looked at the 1901 census he lived very near, maybe even next door, he was also marked as blind, so although I have no real proof everything points to him. It would just be nice to tie up a loose end. Afterwards Catherine Jane married John Poune, whom grandad said was very kind to him "and treated him as his own". Yours Patricia Courtney ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    04/22/2007 05:21:56
    1. Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Pearson s from Woodchurch
    2. lindsay pearson
    3. Hi Peter, I have attached a copy of Marriage certificate for William Pearson and Ann Weaver. As for the dates you mentioned they are circa only at this stage based on the age of William and the date of marriage on the marriage cert and the birth date of their children. Ann's date of death should be aft 1855. Sorry about the error. I have amended my tree Cheers Lindsay >From: "Peter Walker" <peter.john.walker@gmail.com> >Reply-To: peter.john.walker@gmail.com, eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com >To: <eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Pearson s from Woodchurch >Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:53:26 +0100 > >eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Hi Peter. > > William Pearson b 23Jun1803 d 25Aug1858 m 21Apr1845 to Ann Weaver c > > 1824 d after 1881 > > Their Children; > > Henry b7May 1845 d 14 Dec 1909 m 10 May 1899 to Esther Holyer > > b abt 1874 > >Am slightly confused over Ann Weaver's birthdate. You quote c1824. In the >1851 census she quotes 34 (=1817) and in the 1861 40 (=1821). What is your >source for 1824? You suggest died after 1881 - does this mean you have >found >her in the 1881 census? I couldn't spot her. > >Esther Holyer was registered Q4 1873. > >Best Wishes > >Peter Walker > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: 1000s of Sexy Singles online now at Lavalife - Click here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D27782&_t=762229680&_r=lavalife_apr07_1000sexysingles&_m=EXT

    04/21/2007 04:47:19
    1. Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Pearson s from Woodchurch
    2. Peter Walker
    3. eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com wrote: > Hi Peter. > William Pearson b 23Jun1803 d 25Aug1858 m 21Apr1845 to Ann Weaver c > 1824 d after 1881 > Their Children; > Henry b7May 1845 d 14 Dec 1909 m 10 May 1899 to Esther Holyer > b abt 1874 Am slightly confused over Ann Weaver's birthdate. You quote c1824. In the 1851 census she quotes 34 (=1817) and in the 1861 40 (=1821). What is your source for 1824? You suggest died after 1881 - does this mean you have found her in the 1881 census? I couldn't spot her. Esther Holyer was registered Q4 1873. Best Wishes Peter Walker

    04/21/2007 02:53:26
    1. Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Catherine DITTON
    2. Gary Samson
    3. Martin, I suspect we might have reached pandemic proportions by now! It would certainly be interesting to find out how many countries have settled and resident families that originated from Woodchurch. Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the US are obvious destinations that we already know about but I wonder how many other Woodchurch families there are living in less obvious, non-English-speaking countries. If you know of any, please let me know and I'll compile a list. Gary Samson Canterbury, Kent NOW Available Online! 'A Stroll Around the Green' www.goldbern.co.uk/woodchurch/stroll.htm Martin Willcocks said the following on 21.04.2007 15:40: > Hi all: > > It's amazing how far the Woodchurch community has spread! Though I am > not in a direct Ditton line, there is at least one Ditton twig in my > tree (John Ditton m. Bennet King 19 Oct 1806 Woodchurch) Probably a bit > too early for Patricia's ggf but could John and Bennet be in her tree too? > > Regards > Martin Willcocks

    04/21/2007 12:52:02
    1. [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Catherine DITTON
    2. Gary Samson
    3. Hi Everyone, This morning I received a snail mail request from Patricia Courtney in France for copies of 'Woodchurch Then & Now' and 'A Stroll Around the Green'. In her accompanying letter she asks, "My Grandfather was born in Woodchurch, the illegitimate son of Catherine Ditton -- I am pretty sure I know who his natural father was, but how does one prove such a thing as the evidence is anecdotal?" Now, I appreciate that really isn't much to go on at all, but does that ring a bell for any of you researching the Ditton family? All the best Gary Samson Canterbury, Kent *Now Available* 'A Stroll Around the Green' www.goldbern.co.uk/woodchurch/stroll.htm

    04/21/2007 08:22:22
    1. Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Catherine DITTON
    2. Martin Willcocks
    3. Hi all: It's amazing how far the Woodchurch community has spread! Though I am not in a direct Ditton line, there is at least one Ditton twig in my tree (John Ditton m. Bennet King 19 Oct 1806 Woodchurch) Probably a bit too early for Patricia's ggf but could John and Bennet be in her tree too? Regards Martin Willcocks Gary Samson wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >This morning I received a snail mail request from Patricia Courtney in >France for copies of 'Woodchurch Then & Now' and 'A Stroll Around the >Green'. In her accompanying letter she asks, "My Grandfather was born in >Woodchurch, the illegitimate son of Catherine Ditton -- I am pretty sure >I know who his natural father was, but how does one prove such a thing >as the evidence is anecdotal?" Now, I appreciate that really isn't much >to go on at all, but does that ring a bell for any of you researching >the Ditton family? > >All the best > >Gary Samson >Canterbury, Kent > >*Now Available* 'A Stroll Around the Green' >www.goldbern.co.uk/woodchurch/stroll.htm > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

    04/21/2007 02:40:38
    1. Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Pearson s from Woodchurch
    2. lindsay pearson
    3. Hi Peter. William Pearson b 23Jun1803 d 25Aug1858 m 21Apr1845 to Ann Weaver c 1824 d after 1881 Their Children; Henry b7May 1845 d 14 Dec 1909 m 10 May 1899 to Esther Holyer b abt 1874 Mary b 4 Dec 1846 d 4Oct 1886 m 19 Jun 1867 to Edward Weeks b 21 June 1843 d 9 Apr 1926 Elizabeth b 3 Oct 1848 William b 6 Oct 1849 d 30 May 1921 m 16 Aug 1877 to Harriet Marwick b 1852 d 16 Jun 1914 Charles b 28 March 1855 d after 1889 married to Ellen Richards b abt 1853 I have descendants of the above children if you want them and if you can fill me in with info on missing info above I would appreciate it, Cheerio Lindsay >From: BOB CHOWN <bob.chown@btinternet.com> >Reply-To: eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com >To: peter.john.walker@gmail.com, eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Pearson s from Woodchurch >Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 07:38:01 +0100 (BST) > >Dear Lindsay > > I have a Pearson ancestor, Sarah Pearson who married Thomas Fullagar at >Woodchurch 16 Sept 1777. She was a parishioner of Bethersden at the time of >her marriage. She died 10th August 1804 and her age was given as 72 so >probably born about 1732. I could find no christening of a Sarah Pearson at >Bethersden 1727-1737. Can you help with her and her parents please? > > Best wishes - Bob Chown > >Peter Walker <peter.john.walker@gmail.com> wrote: > eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com wrote: > > I am descended from Thomas Pearson (originally from Betherden > > but later of > > Woodchurch) and Ann Wilkinson (originally from Linton) Their children > > were, John b 1720, Mary b 2 May 1722, Thomas b 15 Aug 1723, Ann b 10 > > April 1726, Catherine b 20 June 1734, Thomas II b 5 Jun 1737 and > > Susanna > > b 22 Oct 1743. > > Marriages into the Pearson family include Bourne, Ditton, > > Fuggle, Fullagher, > > Hart, King, Hollyer, Markwick and Turner. If you have any connection > > with these names I would like to hear from you. I have completed > > about 90% of > > this family line but there are a few bare branches which need > > to be filled. > > Can you help? > > Cheers > > Lindsay Pearson > >Lindsay, > >I'm intrigued. From my extensive database of Holyer/Hollyer I can only find >one Holyer/Pearson marriage, that of Esther Holyer to Henry Pearson on 10 >May 1899 at Woodchurch. He was the son of William Pearson and Ann Weaver. >If >you have other marriages from the 18th century period you quote above, I >would be keen to know about them. > >Peter Walker >Hollyer~Holyer~Hollier One Name Study >Web: http://www.hollyer.name >Blog: http://hollyer.blogspot.com/ >DNA: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Hollyer > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Visit LetsShop.com to WIN Fabulous Books Weekly http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eletsshop%2Ecom%2FLetsShopBookClub%2Ftabid%2F866%2FDefault%2Easpx&_t=751480117&_r=HM_Tagline_books&_m=EXT

    04/19/2007 04:58:09
    1. Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Fisher
    2. g f
    3. Hi jon, thanks for your reply, i't's really interesting to hear even small information about my family as i have none. Basically i'm after all the usual information one seeks when researching family history, where the fisher's were from, who the"fishers'' were ect... You mentioned that the shop was sold around 1910, do you know what became of the fisher family? Obvoiusly some or one of them emigrated to australia at some point, but could there be any relations of mine still residing in the kent/sussex area? i read that a John b Fisher was buried or cremated at woodchurch parish in 1988, and lived on shirkoak rd or something of the sort. Sorry for crapping on, but any info would be greatly appreciated. thanks mate, Gerald Fisher --- Jon Chaplin <jon@frontrd.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Hi G (Fisher) > > I live in Woodchurch 100 yards from the shop that > Mr.Fischer had early in > the 20th century. Recently I was trawling the > censuses (1841-1891) to figure > out who lived in that property and its neighbours. > Mr.Fisher arrived there > after 1901, buying the shop from a Horace Jarvis. I > know an Yvonne Russell > whose family bought the shop from Mr.Fisher about > 1910 I think. She knows a > lot about your Mr.Fisher but I am unclear what you > are trying to find out. > > I have no more time now as I have to go off for 3 > hours to fetch > grandchildren for a stay here. > > Let me know what you want to find out and maybe I > can oblige > > Cheers - Jon (Chaplin) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Peter Walker > Sent: 09 April 2007 09:06 > To: eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com; > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Fisher > > eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com wrote: > > To whom it may concern, > > I'm a young guy from australia researching(sort > of) my > > family history and as i am getting no help from my > > immediate family, i thought i might call on you > guys > > as you seem the most likely option. My family name > is > > Fisher, and my understanding is that the Fisher's > > we're from Rye, but i have a postcard sent to my > great > > aunt Gwen Fisher(now deceased) with the woodchurch > > parish in the backgroud, Gwen as a child is in the > > picture along with two large buildings behind her, > > with the initials W.A Fisher grocer, draper on the > > entrance to one. I was wondering if any of you > have > > any information concerning the Fisher family as i > am > > at a loss. i would like to know where my family > came > > from, and it is a touchy subject for the > grandfather > > so i thought i might travel down other paths to > get > > any information possible. Even a reply to this > e-mail > > would be greatly appreciated. cheers, G Fisher > > Dear 'G', > > The important thing with tracing your family history > is to start from what > you know and work backwards. I think to get any help > you would need to give > more information about your immediate ancestors, > names, dates etc What is > the date on the postcard? > > The booklet "Then and Now" says that at the > beginning of the 20th century, > the shop at 1-3 The Green at Woodchurch was both a > grocery and a drapery and > was owned by Mr Jarvis, who sold out in 1906 to Mr > Fisher. This sounds like > the same shop. > > Peter Walker > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the > word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

    04/16/2007 05:14:07
    1. Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Mary Pearson 1781-1832
    2. Josie Mackie
    3. Thanks for your long and very interesting reply, Bob. I'm glad I asked! No doubt I will bump into you at the Archives soon. Josie

    04/16/2007 01:55:15
    1. Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] 1871 Census [was: Mary Pearson 1781-1832]
    2. Gary Samson
    3. Dear Bob, Josie, Jon and I have finished transcribing and proofing the 1871 census. I've been a little tardy in adjusting the formatting, stitching our contributions together and carrying out a final proofread. I intend to have this ready for the website very soon, together with your 1891 transcript. Gary Samson Canterbury, Kent NOW AVAILABLE ONLINE! 'A Stroll Around the Green' www.goldbern.co.uk/woodchurch/stroll.htm BOB CHOWN said the following on 16.04.2007 01:35: > In addition to the Woodchurch 1891 Census, I have now finished the > 1861 and 1841 Censuses. I wondered how the group are progressing with > the 1871 Census?

    04/16/2007 01:44:31
    1. Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Mary Pearson 1781-1832
    2. BOB CHOWN
    3. Dear Josie Sarah Barman, my great great great grandmother was christened on 7th November 1813 at All Saints, Woodchurch, the fourth child of William Barman and Mary Pearson. Another sister had been christened Sarah in 1809 but had died the next year. No sentiment there. Nothing is known of Sarah until 9th December 1831 when her illegitimate son Robert was christened Robert Ransley Barman at All Saints, Woodchurch. Robert Ransley Barman was buried in All Saints Churchyard a month later on 1st January 1832. And a bitterly cold miserable affair it must have been. Within a few months, Sarah was pregnant again presumably also by Robert Ransley and this time the shotgun came out and the couple were married at All Saints, Woodchurch on 7th November 1832. Robert Ransley originally came from High Halden. Their son Richard was christened at All Saints on 11th February 1833. Their third child, my great great grandmother, Mary Ann Ransley, was christened at Woodchurch on 23rd July 1834. Sarah appears never to have recovered from this last birth and was buried at Woodchurch on 27th March 1835. Her age was given as 22. Robert did not survive her long being buried in All Saints churchyard on 16th May 1838. His age was given as 30. There are no gravestones for the two Roberts or Sarah. The orphaned children, Richard and Mary Ann survived to ripe old ages. One of my earliest photographs is of Mary Ann Ransley in 1878. My mother, now 91, still remembers meeting Mary Ann Bingham nee Ransley who died in Woodchurch in 1922. There was no family history concerning Richard and Sarah so I may have romanticized a trifle but what a sad story. In 1969 my great aunt Bertha Moore nee Fullagar emigated back to Kent from Vancouver, Canada. She had married a Canadian serviceman just after WWI. She remembered the nursery rhyme and my mother, luckily, wrote it down with another poem Aunt Bertha recited composed by my grandfather. Another Easter to me hath come And soon I shall behold my home The dear ones that I long to see Will be the first to welcome me My mother dear I shall embrace And see the love writ on her face My father's hand again I'll clasp And feel the love within his grasp. Then my brothers dear once more Will bid me welcome at the door Dear Nelson's hand within my own And Arthur's arm around me thrown. My sisters dear though young as yet Their brother they cannot forget I'll kiss them all with hearty glee For all of them are fond of me. Then neighbours, friends from far and near Will welcome me with Easter cheer And in that happy home of mine I'll spend a jolly Easter time. The days seem slow in passing by And patiently I watch them fly And soon will come the looked for train To take me to my home again. Ernest Fullagar 1893 aged 13 - The family lived at Brickwall Cottage now named Brickwall Bungalow. My mother never told me of the two pieces that I found when my wife and I spent three days sorting out my parents papers when they went into a nursing home two years ago. I read both to the assembled family of about fourty at my mother's 90th birthday celebration. Very nearly lost! In addition to the Woodchurch 1891 Census, I have now finished the 1861 and 1841 Censuses. I wondered how the group are progressing with the 1871 Census? We leave Hawaii for San Francisco tomorrow and will return to Canterbury and the Archives no doubt, on May 6th. Best wishes - Bob Chown Josie Mackie <josie.mackie@tesco.net> wrote: Dear Bob, You can't possibly leave it like that! Why was Sarah tragic and where did the nursery rhyme come from? Or have I missed a posting? Best wishes, Josie ----- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/15/2007 07:35:31
    1. Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Mary Pearson 1781-1832
    2. Josie Mackie
    3. Dear Bob, You can't possibly leave it like that! Why was Sarah tragic and where did the nursery rhyme come from? Or have I missed a posting? Best wishes, Josie -----

    04/15/2007 01:35:37
    1. Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Mary Pearson 1781-1832
    2. BOB CHOWN
    3. Dear Lindsay Another Pearson for you, a direct ancestor this time. My 4G Grandmother Mary Pearson married William Barman in May 1806 at Ashford. She was a parisioner of Ashford at the time of her marriage. She had 13 children by William of which the tragic Sarah, the fourth, was my 3G Grandmother. She died in Woodchurch in 1832, her age given as 51. She may have been the source of the Woodchurch Nursery Rhyme; Mary Barman is my name And England is my Nation Woodchurch is my dwelling place And Christ is my Salvation When I am dead and in my grave And all my bones are rotten When this you see, remember me When I am quite forgotten. That is all I have on Mary Pearson. Do you have any details on her parents please? Many thanks Bob Chown lindsay pearson <lkpearson@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi Bob, Thanks for your e-mail. I am affraid I have nothing to give yo regarding Sarah Pearson/Thomas Fullagar except that; Sarah Pearson married Thomas Fullagar on 16th Sept 1777 at All Saints , Woodchurch. Sarah was 45 years old when she married Thomas. It was Thomas' second marriage. Neither marriage produced any children. I have no info on Sarah's parents however; John Pearson c 1685 married Susanna ? c 1690 Their children: Thomas c1713, Jane c1717 and Susanna ? That is all I have, but it might be worth looking int a bit deeper because if Thomas c1713 married at around age 20 the it might be that Sarah c1732 is the daughter of Thomas. This , I feel needs further investigation. Keep in touch, Cheerio Lindsay Pearson _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.ninemsn.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext&_t=762942039&_r=seek_apr07_yourfuturestartshere&_m=EXT

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