eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com wrote: > Bob > > I sent 1881 census to you but I have recieved a message mail held > because it is over 40kb and to big for the site to handle? > Do you have another e-mail I can send it to? To send big files across the net, I recommend: http://www.yousendit.com/ Peter Walker

Bob I sent 1881 census to you but I have recieved a message mail held because it is over 40kb and to big for the site to handle? Do you have another e-mail I can send it to? Robert

Dear Robert Please send it to me as an attachment in its present form and I will see what I can do. Many thanks in anticipation. Bob Chown Robert Sear <robert.sear@ntlworld.com> wrote: Gary Just searched through the census, great so much easier than laborious page by page search on the Disks. I see you have others in line to come on but not 1881! I have it in Excel format, any use. Think I mentioned it before but not sure. See you on 7/7/7 Robert ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bob, Thank you for your kind offer, an Excel copy of the 1881 census would be very welcome indeed, and will certainly speed up our putting online a full 1841-1901 set of censuses. Don't forget that we're meeting at 7.07am on 07/07/07 Gary PS. Only joking about the meet time! Robert Sear said the following on 13.05.2007 15:43: > Gary > > Just searched through the census, great so much easier than laborious page > by page search on the Disks. > I see you have others in line to come on but not 1881! I have it in Excel > format, any use. > Think I mentioned it before but not sure. > > See you on 7/7/7 > > Robert

Gary Just searched through the census, great so much easier than laborious page by page search on the Disks. I see you have others in line to come on but not 1881! I have it in Excel format, any use. Think I mentioned it before but not sure. See you on 7/7/7 Robert

Hi Everyone, Bob Chown has recently transcribed the 1891 census for Woodchurch. I've transmogrified Bob's transcription into a searchable web database, which is now online at: www.goldbern.co.uk/woodchurch/census This is the first of several census transcriptions that will become available online. Bob has also completed the 1841 and 1861 censuses, and Josie, Jon and I have finished a transcript of the 1871 census. On behalf of the Woodchurch 14+ group, Bob, I'd like to thank you again for all the hard work you put in to these enormously useful resources. Gary Samson Canterbury, Kent Woodchurch Then & Now www.goldbern.co.uk/woodchurch/thenandnow.htm

Hi Sharon, My research is limited to the previous owners of the worlds wonder, and my ultimate quest was to find out who may have lived in the cottages before they were turned into the beer house known as the Worlds Wonder established in about 1860. I can send you the info I have but I would need a mail address as I cannot seem to deposit large data files through this address. I also have a couple of old pictures of Warehorne, you may or may not have already, of the green and the Leacon crossing. If you would like this info, please mail me on john@worldswonder.co.uk, or pop into the pub. John -----Original Message----- From: eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Fuller Sent: 11 May 2007 20:12 To: eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Bourne Hi John I have emailed you recnetly but not sure if you have received it, so here it is again.... I have a particular interest in Warehorne. My great Grandmother came from Warehorne & lived variously at the Leacon & Warehorne Green. The World's Wonder would certainly have been used by her father (Thomas Wooley Manning) in the Leacon days, although he may have switched to the Woolpack when living on the Green! Whilst researching my greatgrandmother's family I beame increasingly interested in the whole village of Warehorne and have begun transcribing and collating ALL the censuses for everyone who lived there from 1841 to 1901- ths is about 2/3rds complete. It is really interesting to see who did what & who were the permanent families & who who were transient. There does seem to be quite a lot of moving about. My direct family surnames for Warehorne are WOOLLEY MANNING, JENNER & BROWN. There are connections with the BOURNES by marriage. I am gradually building up a picture of Warehorne during the census years and would welcome any contribuitions such as your research on World's Wonder - I did not receive the attachment you sent, so is it possible to resend directly to me? Once I have all the census information collated I will be able to send you details of any individual or family in Warehorne. I hope to add to census information with contributions from those who have researched any of the families - either BMD's or anecdotes. I would also like any information about anything to do with Warehorne in this period (may expand later).- e.g. history of buildings, events etc. As you are likely to meet folks who may have had ancestors who were locals, it would be great if you could pass on any info. Many thanks Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: <john@worldswonder.co.uk> To: <eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Bourne > Can anyone help please? > > > > I am researching the history of the Worlds Wonder Public House, and am > trying to find details on one James Bourne of Woodchurch, born about 1839, > his wife Martha born about 1840 and nephew James B Homewood. > > > > I would appreciate any assistance ith information on any or all of the > above. > > > > Best Regards > > > > John Roberts > > Worlds Wonder > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > This email has been verified as Virus free > Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Philip, Sorry but who was Joseph in relation to James? John -----Original Message----- From: eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Philip Whitehead Sent: 10 May 2007 21:05 To: eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Bourne John I can help with James Bourne Homewood. He was the son of Richard Bourne Homewood and g grandson of Sophia Bourne. His father Richard Bourne Homewood ran the Stonebribge Arms in Woodchurch around 1891. Richards brother George married Margaret Bourne and his sister Eliza Emily married George Bourne, so there was quite a Bourne connection. James Bourne' Homewood's mother died when he was 3 years old so I guess he went to live with his aunt. Joseph can also claim to have aunts and uncles in the King, Pearson,Hart, Dunster and Cox families. Philip ----- Original Message ----- From: <john@worldswonder.co.uk> To: <eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Bourne > Can anyone help please? > > > > I am researching the history of the Worlds Wonder Public House, and am > trying to find details on one James Bourne of Woodchurch, born about 1839, > his wife Martha born about 1840 and nephew James B Homewood. > > > > I would appreciate any assistance ith information on any or all of the > above. > > > > Best Regards > > > > John Roberts > > Worlds Wonder > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob a couple of items to your excellent publican list --1847 Henry Rolf presumably Mahala's husband was innkeeper he died in 1849/50. also Sarah Godsell was the daughter of John Walter Keep up the good work Philip ----- Original Message ----- From: "BOB CHOWN" <bob.chown@btinternet.com> To: <eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 5:34 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Researching Publicans > Dear John > > I include my notes on my Pubklican research at the Bonny Cravat in > Woodchurch 1851-1982 showing my sources. Everything I used I found at the > Centre fro Kentish Studies at Maidstone. In the 20th Century it was mainly > Kelly's Dirctory published about every 5 years and the Electoral Roll > published every year except during WWII. Parish Records could > christenings, marriages or burials. Sorry about the type size. > > 1851 Mahala Rolfe Census Born 1820 Tenterden Mahala Rolfe marries Edmund > Bourne 1852 > Mahala Bourne Died at Northfleet and buried at Woodchurch 1888 > 1855 Edmund Bourne - Kelly's Directory Edmund Bourne Publican 1852-1856 > 1854 Born 1820 Woodchurch Died Woodchurch 1856 > 1856 Edmund Bourne - Parish Records > 1859 Samuel Fullagar - Kelly's Directory Samuel Fullagar Publican > 1856-1865 > 1861 Samuel Fullagar - Census Born 1830 US Subject Died 1868 Woodchurch > 1866 Charles Hillyer - Parish Records > 1867 Charles Hillyer - Kelly's Directory Charles Hillyer Publican > 1865-1872 > 1871 Charles Hillyer - Census Died at Woodchurch 1872 > 1872 Purchased by Shepherd Neame - Brewer > 1874 Frederick Lilley - Kelly's Directory Frederick Lilley Publican 1872 > est. - 1878 est. > 1878 John Walter - Kelly's Directory > 1881 John Walter Widower aged 73 Inn Keeper - Census > 1882 John Walter - Kelly's Directory John Walter Publican 1878 est. -1886 > 1883 John Walter - District Blue Book Born 1808 Woodchurch Died 1886 > Woodchurch > 1884 John Walter - District Blue Book Gravestone in All Saints Graveyard > 1887 Mrs Sarah Goodsell Mrs Sarah Goodsell Publican 1886-1899 > 1888 Mrs Sarah Goodsell Born 1834 Woodchurch Died 1899 Woodchurch > 1889 Mrs Sarah Goodsell Gravestone in All Saints Graveyard > 1900 Frederick John Milton - Kelly's Directory > 1901 Frederick John Milton - Census Frederick John Milton Publican > 1899-1943 est. > 1905 Frederick John Milton - Kelly's Directory Born Bonnington, Kent 1871 > Died 1954 Woodchurch > 1938 Frederick John Milton - Kelly's Directory > 1944 Albert V. Milton - Electoral Roll Albert V. Milton Publican 1943 > est. - 1954 > 1945 Albert V. Milton - Electoral Roll > 1953 Albert V. Milton - Commercial Directory > 1954 Edward J. Barnes - Electoral Roll > 1955 Edward J. Barnes - Electoral Roll Edward J. Barnes Publican > 1954-1956 > 1956 George C. Twyman-Musgrave - Electoral Roll > 1957 George C. Twyman-Musgrave - Electoral Roll George C. Twyman-Musgrave > Publican 1956-1959 > 1959 George E. Brown - Electoral Roll > 1960 George E. Brown - Electoral Roll George E. Brown Publican 1959-1964 > 1964 George R. Wellington - Electoral Roll > 1965 George R. Wellington - Electoral Roll George R. Wellington 1964-1967 > 1967 Robert H. Murphy - Electoral Roll > 1968 Robert H. Murphy - Electoral Roll Robert H. Murphy Publican > 1967-1982 > Est. Estimated > > Good hunting and best wishes > > Bob Chown > > john <john@worldswonder.co.uk> wrote: Hi Bob, > > Thanks for the Info. I think the pub started as a beer house in about > 1860, > where it was purchased by Thomas Knight. > > I have some record of Mr Knight from the 1881 census. He subsequently sold > the pub to James Bourne. According the 1901 census James B Homewood and > Kevin Boorman (not sure of the surname on the latter), nephews of James > Bourne were living with him and Martha; Martha name confirmed in your > mail, > Thanks. > > James or Jimmy Homewood then took over the pub un till the late 40's. > > My quests is to put some flesh on the bones of the Knight, Bourne and > Homewood families, and ultimately try to find out who may have lived in > the > cottages before conversion to a beer house in the 1860's. I also want to > find out the landlords of the pub to date. > > Any guidance on how to research this would be very much appreciated, I > have > had no luck so far at the centre of Kentish studies, or at the > magistrate's > court at Dover. > > Finally the Knights 1881 census is really strange according to the > records, > regarding children and grandchildren. > > Thanks > John Roberts > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BOB CHOWN > Sent: 11 May 2007 06:26 > To: eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Bourne > > Dear John > > Check the marriages at Woodchurch in our website in 1864 when a James > Bourne marries a Martha Wanstall. The ages seem to match and fathers are > given. > > I researched the landlords at the Bonny Cravat, Woodchurch a few years > ago. Got back to its foundation as an Inn in 1690. If you need any help on > where to find information like that - just ask. > > Best wishes - Bob Chown > > john@worldswonder.co.uk wrote: > Can anyone help please? > > > > I am researching the history of the Worlds Wonder Public House, and am > trying to find details on one James Bourne of Woodchurch, born about 1839, > his wife Martha born about 1840 and nephew James B Homewood. > > > > I would appreciate any assistance ith information on any or all of the > above. > > > > Best Regards > > > > John Roberts > > Worlds Wonder > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear John I include my notes on my Pubklican research at the Bonny Cravat in Woodchurch 1851-1982 showing my sources. Everything I used I found at the Centre fro Kentish Studies at Maidstone. In the 20th Century it was mainly Kelly's Dirctory published about every 5 years and the Electoral Roll published every year except during WWII. Parish Records could christenings, marriages or burials. Sorry about the type size. 1851 Mahala Rolfe Census Born 1820 Tenterden Mahala Rolfe marries Edmund Bourne 1852 Mahala Bourne Died at Northfleet and buried at Woodchurch 1888 1855 Edmund Bourne - Kelly's Directory Edmund Bourne Publican 1852-1856 1854 Born 1820 Woodchurch Died Woodchurch 1856 1856 Edmund Bourne - Parish Records 1859 Samuel Fullagar - Kelly's Directory Samuel Fullagar Publican 1856-1865 1861 Samuel Fullagar - Census Born 1830 US Subject Died 1868 Woodchurch 1866 Charles Hillyer - Parish Records 1867 Charles Hillyer - Kelly's Directory Charles Hillyer Publican 1865-1872 1871 Charles Hillyer - Census Died at Woodchurch 1872 1872 Purchased by Shepherd Neame - Brewer 1874 Frederick Lilley - Kelly's Directory Frederick Lilley Publican 1872 est. - 1878 est. 1878 John Walter - Kelly's Directory 1881 John Walter Widower aged 73 Inn Keeper - Census 1882 John Walter - Kelly's Directory John Walter Publican 1878 est. -1886 1883 John Walter - District Blue Book Born 1808 Woodchurch Died 1886 Woodchurch 1884 John Walter - District Blue Book Gravestone in All Saints Graveyard 1887 Mrs Sarah Goodsell Mrs Sarah Goodsell Publican 1886-1899 1888 Mrs Sarah Goodsell Born 1834 Woodchurch Died 1899 Woodchurch 1889 Mrs Sarah Goodsell Gravestone in All Saints Graveyard 1900 Frederick John Milton - Kelly's Directory 1901 Frederick John Milton - Census Frederick John Milton Publican 1899-1943 est. 1905 Frederick John Milton - Kelly's Directory Born Bonnington, Kent 1871 Died 1954 Woodchurch 1938 Frederick John Milton - Kelly's Directory 1944 Albert V. Milton - Electoral Roll Albert V. Milton Publican 1943 est. - 1954 1945 Albert V. Milton - Electoral Roll 1953 Albert V. Milton - Commercial Directory 1954 Edward J. Barnes - Electoral Roll 1955 Edward J. Barnes - Electoral Roll Edward J. Barnes Publican 1954-1956 1956 George C. Twyman-Musgrave - Electoral Roll 1957 George C. Twyman-Musgrave - Electoral Roll George C. Twyman-Musgrave Publican 1956-1959 1959 George E. Brown - Electoral Roll 1960 George E. Brown - Electoral Roll George E. Brown Publican 1959-1964 1964 George R. Wellington - Electoral Roll 1965 George R. Wellington - Electoral Roll George R. Wellington 1964-1967 1967 Robert H. Murphy - Electoral Roll 1968 Robert H. Murphy - Electoral Roll Robert H. Murphy Publican 1967-1982 Est. Estimated Good hunting and best wishes Bob Chown john <john@worldswonder.co.uk> wrote: Hi Bob, Thanks for the Info. I think the pub started as a beer house in about 1860, where it was purchased by Thomas Knight. I have some record of Mr Knight from the 1881 census. He subsequently sold the pub to James Bourne. According the 1901 census James B Homewood and Kevin Boorman (not sure of the surname on the latter), nephews of James Bourne were living with him and Martha; Martha name confirmed in your mail, Thanks. James or Jimmy Homewood then took over the pub un till the late 40's. My quests is to put some flesh on the bones of the Knight, Bourne and Homewood families, and ultimately try to find out who may have lived in the cottages before conversion to a beer house in the 1860's. I also want to find out the landlords of the pub to date. Any guidance on how to research this would be very much appreciated, I have had no luck so far at the centre of Kentish studies, or at the magistrate's court at Dover. Finally the Knights 1881 census is really strange according to the records, regarding children and grandchildren. Thanks John Roberts -----Original Message----- From: eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BOB CHOWN Sent: 11 May 2007 06:26 To: eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Bourne Dear John Check the marriages at Woodchurch in our website in 1864 when a James Bourne marries a Martha Wanstall. The ages seem to match and fathers are given. I researched the landlords at the Bonny Cravat, Woodchurch a few years ago. Got back to its foundation as an Inn in 1690. If you need any help on where to find information like that - just ask. Best wishes - Bob Chown john@worldswonder.co.uk wrote: Can anyone help please? I am researching the history of the Worlds Wonder Public House, and am trying to find details on one James Bourne of Woodchurch, born about 1839, his wife Martha born about 1840 and nephew James B Homewood. I would appreciate any assistance ith information on any or all of the above. Best Regards John Roberts Worlds Wonder ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi John I have emailed you recnetly but not sure if you have received it, so here it is again.... I have a particular interest in Warehorne. My great Grandmother came from Warehorne & lived variously at the Leacon & Warehorne Green. The World's Wonder would certainly have been used by her father (Thomas Wooley Manning) in the Leacon days, although he may have switched to the Woolpack when living on the Green! Whilst researching my greatgrandmother's family I beame increasingly interested in the whole village of Warehorne and have begun transcribing and collating ALL the censuses for everyone who lived there from 1841 to 1901- ths is about 2/3rds complete. It is really interesting to see who did what & who were the permanent families & who who were transient. There does seem to be quite a lot of moving about. My direct family surnames for Warehorne are WOOLLEY MANNING, JENNER & BROWN. There are connections with the BOURNES by marriage. I am gradually building up a picture of Warehorne during the census years and would welcome any contribuitions such as your research on World's Wonder - I did not receive the attachment you sent, so is it possible to resend directly to me? Once I have all the census information collated I will be able to send you details of any individual or family in Warehorne. I hope to add to census information with contributions from those who have researched any of the families - either BMD's or anecdotes. I would also like any information about anything to do with Warehorne in this period (may expand later).- e.g. history of buildings, events etc. As you are likely to meet folks who may have had ancestors who were locals, it would be great if you could pass on any info. Many thanks Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: <john@worldswonder.co.uk> To: <eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Bourne > Can anyone help please? > > > > I am researching the history of the Worlds Wonder Public House, and am > trying to find details on one James Bourne of Woodchurch, born about 1839, > his wife Martha born about 1840 and nephew James B Homewood. > > > > I would appreciate any assistance ith information on any or all of the > above. > > > > Best Regards > > > > John Roberts > > Worlds Wonder > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > This email has been verified as Virus free > Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net >

John Congratulations on a wonderful web site. well worth a visit Little Jimmy was probably married to Sarah Jane Gibson the daughter of an army pensioner, they had a daughter Gertrude F Homewood born in 1911 Jimmy's father and his uncle ran the Stonebridge Arms in Woodchurch for about 20 years so he must have been born with ale in his veins so running a pub came as second nature Philip ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" <john@worldswonder.co.uk> To: <eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Bourne > Hi Bob, > > Thanks for the Info. I think the pub started as a beer house in about > 1860, > where it was purchased by Thomas Knight. > > I have some record of Mr Knight from the 1881 census. He subsequently sold > the pub to James Bourne. According the 1901 census James B Homewood and > Kevin Boorman (not sure of the surname on the latter), nephews of James > Bourne were living with him and Martha; Martha name confirmed in your > mail, > Thanks. > > James or Jimmy Homewood then took over the pub un till the late 40's. > > My quests is to put some flesh on the bones of the Knight, Bourne and > Homewood families, and ultimately try to find out who may have lived in > the > cottages before conversion to a beer house in the 1860's. I also want to > find out the landlords of the pub to date. > > Any guidance on how to research this would be very much appreciated, I > have > had no luck so far at the centre of Kentish studies, or at the > magistrate's > court at Dover. > > Finally the Knights 1881 census is really strange according to the > records, > regarding children and grandchildren. > > Thanks > John Roberts > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BOB CHOWN > Sent: 11 May 2007 06:26 > To: eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Bourne > > Dear John > > Check the marriages at Woodchurch in our website in 1864 when a James > Bourne marries a Martha Wanstall. The ages seem to match and fathers are > given. > > I researched the landlords at the Bonny Cravat, Woodchurch a few years > ago. Got back to its foundation as an Inn in 1690. If you need any help on > where to find information like that - just ask. > > Best wishes - Bob Chown > > john@worldswonder.co.uk wrote: > Can anyone help please? > > > > I am researching the history of the Worlds Wonder Public House, and am > trying to find details on one James Bourne of Woodchurch, born about 1839, > his wife Martha born about 1840 and nephew James B Homewood. > > > > I would appreciate any assistance ith information on any or all of the > above. > > > > Best Regards > > > > John Roberts > > Worlds Wonder > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bob, Thanks for the Info. I think the pub started as a beer house in about 1860, where it was purchased by Thomas Knight. I have some record of Mr Knight from the 1881 census. He subsequently sold the pub to James Bourne. According the 1901 census James B Homewood and Kevin Boorman (not sure of the surname on the latter), nephews of James Bourne were living with him and Martha; Martha name confirmed in your mail, Thanks. James or Jimmy Homewood then took over the pub un till the late 40's. My quests is to put some flesh on the bones of the Knight, Bourne and Homewood families, and ultimately try to find out who may have lived in the cottages before conversion to a beer house in the 1860's. I also want to find out the landlords of the pub to date. Any guidance on how to research this would be very much appreciated, I have had no luck so far at the centre of Kentish studies, or at the magistrate's court at Dover. Finally the Knights 1881 census is really strange according to the records, regarding children and grandchildren. Thanks John Roberts -----Original Message----- From: eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BOB CHOWN Sent: 11 May 2007 06:26 To: eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Bourne Dear John Check the marriages at Woodchurch in our website in 1864 when a James Bourne marries a Martha Wanstall. The ages seem to match and fathers are given. I researched the landlords at the Bonny Cravat, Woodchurch a few years ago. Got back to its foundation as an Inn in 1690. If you need any help on where to find information like that - just ask. Best wishes - Bob Chown john@worldswonder.co.uk wrote: Can anyone help please? I am researching the history of the Worlds Wonder Public House, and am trying to find details on one James Bourne of Woodchurch, born about 1839, his wife Martha born about 1840 and nephew James B Homewood. I would appreciate any assistance ith information on any or all of the above. Best Regards John Roberts Worlds Wonder ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob I am coming to meeting on 7/7/7 but I am going to family history fair at Maidstone on Sunday and would it be a good idea to get some contact names if they are interested in having a stall? If we do not follow it up does not matter but after last years success need to look forward. Hope I am not stepping on anyones toes. Bob

Dear John Check the marriages at Woodchurch in our website in 1864 when a James Bourne marries a Martha Wanstall. The ages seem to match and fathers are given. I researched the landlords at the Bonny Cravat, Woodchurch a few years ago. Got back to its foundation as an Inn in 1690. If you need any help on where to find information like that - just ask. Best wishes - Bob Chown john@worldswonder.co.uk wrote: Can anyone help please? I am researching the history of the Worlds Wonder Public House, and am trying to find details on one James Bourne of Woodchurch, born about 1839, his wife Martha born about 1840 and nephew James B Homewood. I would appreciate any assistance ith information on any or all of the above. Best Regards John Roberts Worlds Wonder ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John I can help with James Bourne Homewood. He was the son of Richard Bourne Homewood and g grandson of Sophia Bourne. His father Richard Bourne Homewood ran the Stonebribge Arms in Woodchurch around 1891. Richards brother George married Margaret Bourne and his sister Eliza Emily married George Bourne, so there was quite a Bourne connection. James Bourne' Homewood's mother died when he was 3 years old so I guess he went to live with his aunt. Joseph can also claim to have aunts and uncles in the King, Pearson,Hart, Dunster and Cox families. Philip ----- Original Message ----- From: <john@worldswonder.co.uk> To: <eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Bourne > Can anyone help please? > > > > I am researching the history of the Worlds Wonder Public House, and am > trying to find details on one James Bourne of Woodchurch, born about 1839, > his wife Martha born about 1840 and nephew James B Homewood. > > > > I would appreciate any assistance ith information on any or all of the > above. > > > > Best Regards > > > > John Roberts > > Worlds Wonder > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Can anyone help please? I am researching the history of the Worlds Wonder Public House, and am trying to find details on one James Bourne of Woodchurch, born about 1839, his wife Martha born about 1840 and nephew James B Homewood. I would appreciate any assistance ith information on any or all of the above. Best Regards John Roberts Worlds Wonder

Dear Liz Thanks for your email. The site recommended by Bob Chown is very helpful for filling in gaps. My trail is Susannah and by her marriage to the Pilcher family. Good Luck in your search. Sally -----Original Message----- From: eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Shoosmith Sent: 09 May 2007 08:28 To: eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Message to the Woodchurch list Dear Sally Not sure if this is relevant as I haven't looked into it in detail. My GG grandmother was Eliza Ransley who married Richard Fowle in Q3, 1854, in Appledore. She died in childbirth in 1857, also in Appledore. They had 2 daughters, Frances and Emma (my G Grandmother). Bob, thanks for the link, I will have a look. Liz Shoosmith (nee Baker) PS Please note: my email address has changed as I'm now on broadband. BOB CHOWN wrote: > Dear Sally > > I have no William (1793-1837) in my ancestry but I suggest you look at - > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=davidhills&id=I47 > > David is a friend of mine and his site should give you the information you want. > > Best wishes - Bob Chown > > Michael Jones <spikemj@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Dear Bob > > I was interested to see the name Ransley. I wonder if Mary Ann has any > connections to my Ransleys. My great grandmother was Susannah Ransley, b > 1833 in Woodchurch. Her father was William Ransley 1793 - 1837 and her > mother Martha Morris b1795 or 1801 who, after William's death married > Charles Bourne 1811 - 1859. Do you have any other information, please? > > Sally > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Bob Many, many thanks for this information. Filled in a few gaps and gone back another generation too. I will contact David too. Sally -----Original Message----- From: eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BOB CHOWN Sent: 08 May 2007 22:17 To: eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Message to the Woodchurch list Dear Sally I have no William (1793-1837) in my ancestry but I suggest you look at - http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=davidhills&id=I47 David is a friend of mine and his site should give you the information you want. Best wishes - Bob Chown Michael Jones <spikemj@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: Dear Bob I was interested to see the name Ransley. I wonder if Mary Ann has any connections to my Ransleys. My great grandmother was Susannah Ransley, b 1833 in Woodchurch. Her father was William Ransley 1793 - 1837 and her mother Martha Morris b1795 or 1801 who, after William's death married Charles Bourne 1811 - 1859. Do you have any other information, please? Sally -----Original Message----- From: eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BOB CHOWN Sent: 07 May 2007 04:35 To: eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Message to the Woodchurch list Dear Merilyn and Josie Thomas Bingham (1776-), father of Mary Bingham (1802-1880) who married David Couchman (1813-1896) at Woodchurch on 19th April 1840, was my 4X great grandfather. Mary (1802-1880) was the second of 11 children, my 3X great grandfather, William Bingham (1822-1885) being the tenth. Thomas Bingham (1776-) married Mary King (1782-1856) approximately May 1800 at St. Mary's, Great Chart. Banns were read in Woodchurch and Great Chart. Thomas was christened 26th November 1776 at Woodchurch and Mary 25th December 1782 at Great Chart. Mary, Widow, died at Sly Corner, Kenardington on 29th October 1856. I have a copy of her death certificate. I have not found the death/burial details of Thomas Bingham (1776-) yet. Thomas (1776-) was the eldest of 8 children of James Bingham (1752 approximately -1828) and Mary Henman (1752 calculated - 1834). They married at Woodchurch 30th July 1775. Both were parishioners of Woodchurch at the time of their marriage. Both were buried at Woodchurch. No known graves. William Bingham (1822-1885), my 3X great grandfather, married Mary Ann Ransley (1834-1922) at St Mary's Kenardington on 12th April 1856. My mother now 91, remembers Mary Ann Ransley Bingham clearly. They had 7 children, Sarah Ann, my great grandmother (1863-1951) being the third. I remember her from when I stayed with her in 1947 at Staplehurst, the only great grandparent I knew. The 6th child of William (1822-1885) and Mary Ann (1834-1922) was Thomas Bingham, my great great uncle, christened at Woodchurch 4th April 1871 (privately so probably sickly at birth) and buried at Woodchurch 4th April 1878. No known grave. I now know he died 28th March 1878. Many thanks Josie. I have been unable to trace Mary Henman's ancestors. I hope that tidy's a few things up. Pat and I returned from the US yesterday. Best wishes - Bob Chown Josie Mackie wrote: Dear Merilyn, While looking for something else just now I found a memorial card given to me by my great-aunt Lily Beslee. It is of a Thomas Bingham. Obviously not your Thomas Bingham, too late, too young, but I wondered if he was anything to do with you? I would love to know who he was. The card would probably have come to my aunt from either the Beslee, Bourne, or Chapling families, all of whom lived at Redbrook Street. Josie The details are as follows: An affectionate remembrance of Thomas Bingham, who died 28th march 1878, aged 7 years. Weep not dear sister for thy child, Bid sorrow come no more, Consider that thy darling is, Not lost, but gone before. No doubt but you remember well, The happy looks he wore, But now that smiling face is cold, Not lost, but gone before. 'Tis true, while here on earth he stayed, Great suffering he bore, But now he lives with Christ above, Not lost, but gone before. Till thou shalt enter with thy child, Through the celestial door, Do not forgot thy darling is, Not lost, but gone before. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Sally Not sure if this is relevant as I haven't looked into it in detail. My GG grandmother was Eliza Ransley who married Richard Fowle in Q3, 1854, in Appledore. She died in childbirth in 1857, also in Appledore. They had 2 daughters, Frances and Emma (my G Grandmother). Bob, thanks for the link, I will have a look. Liz Shoosmith (nee Baker) PS Please note: my email address has changed as I'm now on broadband. BOB CHOWN wrote: > Dear Sally > > I have no William (1793-1837) in my ancestry but I suggest you look at - > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=davidhills&id=I47 > > David is a friend of mine and his site should give you the information you want. > > Best wishes - Bob Chown > > Michael Jones <spikemj@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Dear Bob > > I was interested to see the name Ransley. I wonder if Mary Ann has any > connections to my Ransleys. My great grandmother was Susannah Ransley, b > 1833 in Woodchurch. Her father was William Ransley 1793 - 1837 and her > mother Martha Morris b1795 or 1801 who, after William's death married > Charles Bourne 1811 - 1859. Do you have any other information, please? > > Sally > >