Dear Bob Do they show a source for this internet posting? If so, I will check it against the original Parish Register. Best wishes - Bob Chown robertbourne <robert.bourne4@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi Bob kindredkonnections website shows Elizabeth1740 as the daughter of George 1712 .Could this be a mistake ? Regards Bob M/st ----- Original Message ----- From: "BOB CHOWN" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] The Family of George Bourne 1712-1790 > Dear Bob > > Catching up with some of a mountain of emails. > > Why do you think Elizabeth Bourne, the daughter of George Bourne and > Elizabeth Brown was born in 1740? > > Best wishes - Bob Chown > > robertbourne wrote: > As one of your kin I would like like a copy please. I have Elizabeth > Bourne > as being a daughter of George 1712and Elizabeth Brown she was born 1740 > m.John Fullager 06/07/1782 d 1827. Another Elizabeth 1738 daughter of > Thomas > 1710 and she married Gamm Tilden 09/09/1762. regards Bob Bourne Maidstone > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BOB CHOWN" > To: "Josie Mackie" ; "Woodchurch Ancestry Group" > > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:35 AM > Subject: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] The Family of George Bourne 1712-1790 > > >> Dear Josie >> >> I attach what we have been able to find out, beyond doubt, about the >> family of George Bourne 1712-1790 and Elizabeth Brown (-1794) showing >> details of their ten children. I also include images of three marriage >> entries from Parish Registers where William Bourne, I believe, wrote his >> signature. They are images of photocopies so not the absolute best. I >> think they were all done by the same hand. >> >> There are many questions still unanswered. Among these are: >> >> 1. We have searched for the baptism of Elizabeth Bourne circa 1760 in all >> the Parish Registers around Warehorne, including the whole of Romney >> Marsh >> using David Hill's Baptism Index for that District, to no avail. He age >> when buried, the monumental inscription with her husband John Fullagar, >> the details in her father's will giving her parents, the fact that she >> was >> not a minor at marriage in 1782, her marriage in the Church of England >> that required the parties to have been baptised as did burial in the >> churchyard, make us believe that she was baptized probably at Warehorne >> or >> Woodchurch, but that her baptism appears to have been 'lost', >> >> 2. The are two marriages that could be those of Joseph (1746-) and Thomas >> (1749-1778) the first at Leeds and the second at Lydd but both are 'of >> this parish' and there are no Bourne witnesses. Inconclusive based on >> that >> evidence, >> >> 3. One of the marriage entries involving William Bourne is for a George >> Bourne of Warehorne and Ann Waddell at Ruckinge in 1772. A George Bourne >> is buried at Warehorne in 1776 and an Ann Bourne widow remarries at >> Warehorne in 1784. Was he another brother of William, a second bearing >> that name, whose baptism was also missed? Due to his early death, he >> would >> not have been mentioned in his father's will in 1788. There is another >> George Bourne baptised around the same year as William but in >> Kenardington >> and at least two more who could be about the right age in Appledore. None >> of these are sons of a George and Elizabeth Bourne. Cousins perhaps. >> >> I am very interested in what you think and whether you can add anything? >> >> If any WAG member would like copies of what I sent to Josie Mackie they >> need to contact me on a one to one basis and I will sent them as >> attachments. Josie and I, whose joint ancestors this family are, would be >> very interested in any additional information, backed by irrefutable >> sources, that members can provide. Eek! is this English? >> >> Best wishes - Bob Chown >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob, I believe this may have come from me. According to WHBourne who compiled much original data in 1915 she wasbaptised at Warehorne. I cheched the BT transcipts at Canterbury and found the date to be 22nd Feb 1840. Regards Ken. ----- Original Message ----- From: "BOB CHOWN" <bob.chown@btinternet.com> To: <eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] The Family of George Bourne 1712-1790 > Dear Bob > > Catching up with some of a mountain of emails. > > Why do you think Elizabeth Bourne, the daughter of George Bourne and > Elizabeth Brown was born in 1740? > > Best wishes - Bob Chown > > robertbourne <robert.bourne4@btinternet.com> wrote: > As one of your kin I would like like a copy please. I have Elizabeth > Bourne > as being a daughter of George 1712and Elizabeth Brown she was born 1740 > m.John Fullager 06/07/1782 d 1827. Another Elizabeth 1738 daughter of > Thomas > 1710 and she married Gamm Tilden 09/09/1762. regards Bob Bourne Maidstone > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BOB CHOWN" > To: "Josie Mackie" ; "Woodchurch Ancestry Group" > > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:35 AM > Subject: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] The Family of George Bourne 1712-1790 > > >> Dear Josie >> >> I attach what we have been able to find out, beyond doubt, about the >> family of George Bourne 1712-1790 and Elizabeth Brown (-1794) showing >> details of their ten children. I also include images of three marriage >> entries from Parish Registers where William Bourne, I believe, wrote his >> signature. They are images of photocopies so not the absolute best. I >> think they were all done by the same hand. >> >> There are many questions still unanswered. Among these are: >> >> 1. We have searched for the baptism of Elizabeth Bourne circa 1760 in all >> the Parish Registers around Warehorne, including the whole of Romney >> Marsh >> using David Hill's Baptism Index for that District, to no avail. He age >> when buried, the monumental inscription with her husband John Fullagar, >> the details in her father's will giving her parents, the fact that she >> was >> not a minor at marriage in 1782, her marriage in the Church of England >> that required the parties to have been baptised as did burial in the >> churchyard, make us believe that she was baptized probably at Warehorne >> or >> Woodchurch, but that her baptism appears to have been 'lost', >> >> 2. The are two marriages that could be those of Joseph (1746-) and Thomas >> (1749-1778) the first at Leeds and the second at Lydd but both are 'of >> this parish' and there are no Bourne witnesses. Inconclusive based on >> that >> evidence, >> >> 3. One of the marriage entries involving William Bourne is for a George >> Bourne of Warehorne and Ann Waddell at Ruckinge in 1772. A George Bourne >> is buried at Warehorne in 1776 and an Ann Bourne widow remarries at >> Warehorne in 1784. Was he another brother of William, a second bearing >> that name, whose baptism was also missed? Due to his early death, he >> would >> not have been mentioned in his father's will in 1788. There is another >> George Bourne baptised around the same year as William but in >> Kenardington >> and at least two more who could be about the right age in Appledore. None >> of these are sons of a George and Elizabeth Bourne. Cousins perhaps. >> >> I am very interested in what you think and whether you can add anything? >> >> If any WAG member would like copies of what I sent to Josie Mackie they >> need to contact me on a one to one basis and I will sent them as >> attachments. Josie and I, whose joint ancestors this family are, would be >> very interested in any additional information, backed by irrefutable >> sources, that members can provide. Eek! is this English? >> >> Best wishes - Bob Chown >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bob kindredkonnections website shows Elizabeth1740 as the daughter of George 1712 .Could this be a mistake ? Regards Bob M/st ----- Original Message ----- From: "BOB CHOWN" <bob.chown@btinternet.com> To: <eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] The Family of George Bourne 1712-1790 > Dear Bob > > Catching up with some of a mountain of emails. > > Why do you think Elizabeth Bourne, the daughter of George Bourne and > Elizabeth Brown was born in 1740? > > Best wishes - Bob Chown > > robertbourne <robert.bourne4@btinternet.com> wrote: > As one of your kin I would like like a copy please. I have Elizabeth > Bourne > as being a daughter of George 1712and Elizabeth Brown she was born 1740 > m.John Fullager 06/07/1782 d 1827. Another Elizabeth 1738 daughter of > Thomas > 1710 and she married Gamm Tilden 09/09/1762. regards Bob Bourne Maidstone > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BOB CHOWN" > To: "Josie Mackie" ; "Woodchurch Ancestry Group" > > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:35 AM > Subject: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] The Family of George Bourne 1712-1790 > > >> Dear Josie >> >> I attach what we have been able to find out, beyond doubt, about the >> family of George Bourne 1712-1790 and Elizabeth Brown (-1794) showing >> details of their ten children. I also include images of three marriage >> entries from Parish Registers where William Bourne, I believe, wrote his >> signature. They are images of photocopies so not the absolute best. I >> think they were all done by the same hand. >> >> There are many questions still unanswered. Among these are: >> >> 1. We have searched for the baptism of Elizabeth Bourne circa 1760 in all >> the Parish Registers around Warehorne, including the whole of Romney >> Marsh >> using David Hill's Baptism Index for that District, to no avail. He age >> when buried, the monumental inscription with her husband John Fullagar, >> the details in her father's will giving her parents, the fact that she >> was >> not a minor at marriage in 1782, her marriage in the Church of England >> that required the parties to have been baptised as did burial in the >> churchyard, make us believe that she was baptized probably at Warehorne >> or >> Woodchurch, but that her baptism appears to have been 'lost', >> >> 2. The are two marriages that could be those of Joseph (1746-) and Thomas >> (1749-1778) the first at Leeds and the second at Lydd but both are 'of >> this parish' and there are no Bourne witnesses. Inconclusive based on >> that >> evidence, >> >> 3. One of the marriage entries involving William Bourne is for a George >> Bourne of Warehorne and Ann Waddell at Ruckinge in 1772. A George Bourne >> is buried at Warehorne in 1776 and an Ann Bourne widow remarries at >> Warehorne in 1784. Was he another brother of William, a second bearing >> that name, whose baptism was also missed? Due to his early death, he >> would >> not have been mentioned in his father's will in 1788. There is another >> George Bourne baptised around the same year as William but in >> Kenardington >> and at least two more who could be about the right age in Appledore. None >> of these are sons of a George and Elizabeth Bourne. Cousins perhaps. >> >> I am very interested in what you think and whether you can add anything? >> >> If any WAG member would like copies of what I sent to Josie Mackie they >> need to contact me on a one to one basis and I will sent them as >> attachments. Josie and I, whose joint ancestors this family are, would be >> very interested in any additional information, backed by irrefutable >> sources, that members can provide. Eek! is this English? >> >> Best wishes - Bob Chown >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

To continue to muddy the waters: April Wood Ashton wrote that William Bourne had given an affadavit at the burial of Richard Beeching in 1820. I note that Richard Beeching, bachelor of Shadoxhurst, married Martha Wood, spinster of Shadoxhurst in Shadoxhurst on 8 Oct 1804. Lois ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Dear Josie Many thanks for this. Noted for next generation back. Bob Josie Mackie <josie.mackie@tesco.net> wrote: Dear Bob, Thank you. Curiouser and curiouser! Some time ago Derek Wells kindly sent me some Bourne information. Accordingly to this, the marriage between William Bourne and Eleanor Evernden did take place, on October 16 1770, but it was to William Bourne, son of Thomas and Elizabeth Bourne, Thomas being the elder brother of George Bourne, father of 'my' William. So the two of them were cousins. I do not know where the marriage took place: Newington records have been published by the Folkestone Family History Society apparently, but I do not have them. The 'other' William Bourne, the one who married Jane Louisa East in 1806, was another cousin, the son of John Bourne (married Grace), the younger brother of Thomas and our George, according to both Derek and Ken. If only they'd thought of their descendants two hundred years later and named them Ezekiel, Nebuchadnezzer and .........whatever! best wishes, Josie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear April No connection so far. Bob Chown April Ashton <ahashton@focalplane.com> wrote: Dear Bob: I have this on my records: Hothfield PR's: < William Bourne gave affidavit at burial of RICHARD BEECHING - 1820 Jan 16 Burial age 67> Not sure about the accurancy as I made this rather poor note when I was new to F.H. ! My own interest is with Dorcas Bourne b 1725, dau of Daniel & Dorcas in Hothfield; there are many records of BOURNES to be found around this time in Hothfield; Dorcas Bourne b 1725 = 1) Robert Wood & 2) William Wood; the WOOD and BOURNE families seem to have many links throughout the generations- there are MI's to both in the same area of Hothfield Churchyard. I hope this is of help to someone/ anyone! Best regards April (wood- Ashton) On 23 Oct 2007, at 10:43, BOB CHOWN wrote: > Dear Josie > > I found this entry in Warehorne Parish Banns. > > '1770 William Bourne of this parish, bachelor and Elianar Evenden of > the parish of Newington, spinster 23/09 30/09 07/10 - no marriage > [Mid-Kent Index] - no signatures'. > > I cannot find any evidence of another William Bourne in Warehorne at > this time but I may be wrong. Could this be a reason he left Warehorne > - jilted! He was 'of Woodchurch' when we think he married Mary Wood at > Shadoxhurst 15th October the following year, 1771. > > The Banns books are the only place that show the intended marriages > that did not take place. I am transcribing Woodchurch Banns 1754-1837 > and there are a few like this. > > Best wishes - Bob Chown > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Bob Catching up with some of a mountain of emails. Why do you think Elizabeth Bourne, the daughter of George Bourne and Elizabeth Brown was born in 1740? Best wishes - Bob Chown robertbourne <robert.bourne4@btinternet.com> wrote: As one of your kin I would like like a copy please. I have Elizabeth Bourne as being a daughter of George 1712and Elizabeth Brown she was born 1740 m.John Fullager 06/07/1782 d 1827. Another Elizabeth 1738 daughter of Thomas 1710 and she married Gamm Tilden 09/09/1762. regards Bob Bourne Maidstone ----- Original Message ----- From: "BOB CHOWN" To: "Josie Mackie" ; "Woodchurch Ancestry Group" Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:35 AM Subject: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] The Family of George Bourne 1712-1790 > Dear Josie > > I attach what we have been able to find out, beyond doubt, about the > family of George Bourne 1712-1790 and Elizabeth Brown (-1794) showing > details of their ten children. I also include images of three marriage > entries from Parish Registers where William Bourne, I believe, wrote his > signature. They are images of photocopies so not the absolute best. I > think they were all done by the same hand. > > There are many questions still unanswered. Among these are: > > 1. We have searched for the baptism of Elizabeth Bourne circa 1760 in all > the Parish Registers around Warehorne, including the whole of Romney Marsh > using David Hill's Baptism Index for that District, to no avail. He age > when buried, the monumental inscription with her husband John Fullagar, > the details in her father's will giving her parents, the fact that she was > not a minor at marriage in 1782, her marriage in the Church of England > that required the parties to have been baptised as did burial in the > churchyard, make us believe that she was baptized probably at Warehorne or > Woodchurch, but that her baptism appears to have been 'lost', > > 2. The are two marriages that could be those of Joseph (1746-) and Thomas > (1749-1778) the first at Leeds and the second at Lydd but both are 'of > this parish' and there are no Bourne witnesses. Inconclusive based on that > evidence, > > 3. One of the marriage entries involving William Bourne is for a George > Bourne of Warehorne and Ann Waddell at Ruckinge in 1772. A George Bourne > is buried at Warehorne in 1776 and an Ann Bourne widow remarries at > Warehorne in 1784. Was he another brother of William, a second bearing > that name, whose baptism was also missed? Due to his early death, he would > not have been mentioned in his father's will in 1788. There is another > George Bourne baptised around the same year as William but in Kenardington > and at least two more who could be about the right age in Appledore. None > of these are sons of a George and Elizabeth Bourne. Cousins perhaps. > > I am very interested in what you think and whether you can add anything? > > If any WAG member would like copies of what I sent to Josie Mackie they > need to contact me on a one to one basis and I will sent them as > attachments. Josie and I, whose joint ancestors this family are, would be > very interested in any additional information, backed by irrefutable > sources, that members can provide. Eek! is this English? > > Best wishes - Bob Chown > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Josie, I have George in my Family -- my Great Great Grandmother was Ellen George who married Walter Tickner (1859 - Tenterden, Kent, England). Please put him in touch. George Kent member #11034 > From: josie.mackie@tesco.net> To: eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:07:09 +0100> Subject: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] GEORGE Family> > Dear All,> I have been contacted via the website by a man descended from the George Family. Do we have members who would like to be put in touch with him or can help him?> Thanks, Josie> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook – together at last.  Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033

Dear All, I have been contacted via the website by a man descended from the George Family. Do we have members who would like to be put in touch with him or can help him? Thanks, Josie

Hello Bob, I was a bit confused by your emails, but I think it was because, somehow, your second email arrived in my inbox before the first one. Computers are a bit odd sometimes! Anyhow, the William who married Jane Louisa East was the builder/carpenter. TheWilliam I am interested in, who is my 4x great-grandfather, was William the farmer, who farmed Hengehurst before the Schreibers came to the village. Thanks, Josie

Ref last post it was william 1742 who married twice sorry ,son of John 1716 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josie Mackie" <josie.mackie@tesco.net> To: <eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] William Bourne 1744-1824 > Dear Bob, > Thank you. Curiouser and curiouser! > Some time ago Derek Wells kindly sent me some Bourne information. > Accordingly to this, the marriage between William Bourne and Eleanor > Evernden did take place, on October 16 1770, but it was to William Bourne, > son of Thomas and Elizabeth Bourne, Thomas being the elder brother of > George > Bourne, father of 'my' William. So the two of them were cousins. I do not > know where the marriage took place: Newington records have been published > by > the Folkestone Family History Society apparently, but I do not have them. > The 'other' William Bourne, the one who married Jane Louisa East in 1806, > was another cousin, the son of John Bourne (married Grace), the younger > brother of Thomas and our George, according to both Derek and Ken. > If only they'd thought of their descendants two hundred years later and > named them Ezekiel, Nebuchadnezzer and .........whatever! > best wishes, > Josie > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Josie William 1770 marriage to Jane Louisa East was his second ,He married her in Woodchurch 17/10/1806 Mary Wood died on 26/04/1822 ,so did William divorce Mary The plot thickens Regards Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josie Mackie" <josie.mackie@tesco.net> To: <eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] William Bourne 1744-1824 > Dear Bob, > Thank you. Curiouser and curiouser! > Some time ago Derek Wells kindly sent me some Bourne information. > Accordingly to this, the marriage between William Bourne and Eleanor > Evernden did take place, on October 16 1770, but it was to William Bourne, > son of Thomas and Elizabeth Bourne, Thomas being the elder brother of > George > Bourne, father of 'my' William. So the two of them were cousins. I do not > know where the marriage took place: Newington records have been published > by > the Folkestone Family History Society apparently, but I do not have them. > The 'other' William Bourne, the one who married Jane Louisa East in 1806, > was another cousin, the son of John Bourne (married Grace), the younger > brother of Thomas and our George, according to both Derek and Ken. > If only they'd thought of their descendants two hundred years later and > named them Ezekiel, Nebuchadnezzer and .........whatever! > best wishes, > Josie > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Bob, Thank you. Curiouser and curiouser! Some time ago Derek Wells kindly sent me some Bourne information. Accordingly to this, the marriage between William Bourne and Eleanor Evernden did take place, on October 16 1770, but it was to William Bourne, son of Thomas and Elizabeth Bourne, Thomas being the elder brother of George Bourne, father of 'my' William. So the two of them were cousins. I do not know where the marriage took place: Newington records have been published by the Folkestone Family History Society apparently, but I do not have them. The 'other' William Bourne, the one who married Jane Louisa East in 1806, was another cousin, the son of John Bourne (married Grace), the younger brother of Thomas and our George, according to both Derek and Ken. If only they'd thought of their descendants two hundred years later and named them Ezekiel, Nebuchadnezzer and .........whatever! best wishes, Josie

Dear Bob: I have this on my records: Hothfield PR's: < William Bourne gave affidavit at burial of RICHARD BEECHING - 1820 Jan 16 Burial age 67> Not sure about the accurancy as I made this rather poor note when I was new to F.H. ! My own interest is with Dorcas Bourne b 1725, dau of Daniel & Dorcas in Hothfield; there are many records of BOURNES to be found around this time in Hothfield; Dorcas Bourne b 1725 = 1) Robert Wood & 2) William Wood; the WOOD and BOURNE families seem to have many links throughout the generations- there are MI's to both in the same area of Hothfield Churchyard. I hope this is of help to someone/ anyone! Best regards April (wood- Ashton) On 23 Oct 2007, at 10:43, BOB CHOWN wrote: > Dear Josie > > I found this entry in Warehorne Parish Banns. > > '1770 William Bourne of this parish, bachelor and Elianar Evenden of > the parish of Newington, spinster 23/09 30/09 07/10 - no marriage > [Mid-Kent Index] - no signatures'. > > I cannot find any evidence of another William Bourne in Warehorne at > this time but I may be wrong. Could this be a reason he left Warehorne > - jilted! He was 'of Woodchurch' when we think he married Mary Wood at > Shadoxhurst 15th October the following year, 1771. > > The Banns books are the only place that show the intended marriages > that did not take place. I am transcribing Woodchurch Banns 1754-1837 > and there are a few like this. > > Best wishes - Bob Chown > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Josie I found this entry in Warehorne Parish Banns. '1770 William Bourne of this parish, bachelor and Elianar Evenden of the parish of Newington, spinster 23/09 30/09 07/10 - no marriage [Mid-Kent Index] - no signatures'. I cannot find any evidence of another William Bourne in Warehorne at this time but I may be wrong. Could this be a reason he left Warehorne - jilted! He was 'of Woodchurch' when we think he married Mary Wood at Shadoxhurst 15th October the following year, 1771. The Banns books are the only place that show the intended marriages that did not take place. I am transcribing Woodchurch Banns 1754-1837 and there are a few like this. Best wishes - Bob Chown

Dear Bob, Thanks again for the information. Regarding Elizabeth Bourne's missing baptism: From the Poor Rate Assessments I know that Thomas Webb was at Little World, Redbrook Street, in June 1753. The first reference I have to George Bourne living there is in 1760, which means that he moved to Woodchurch at some point between June 1753 and 1760. James Bourne was baptised at Warehorne in 1754, so probably after that date. It should be easy to check at what point George arrived in the village, down to the nearest 6 months, by checking the assessments in between 1753 and 1760, and therefore to have some idea whether Elizabeth was baptised at Woodchurch or Warehorne. Do the BTs exist for Warehorne/Woodchurch at that date? If she didn't make it to the Parish Regs, she just might be in the BTs. (Forgive me if you've already looked there and told me!!) Shall now go away and think some more. Best wishes, Josie

As one of your kin I would like like a copy please. I have Elizabeth Bourne as being a daughter of George 1712and Elizabeth Brown she was born 1740 m.John Fullager 06/07/1782 d 1827. Another Elizabeth 1738 daughter of Thomas 1710 and she married Gamm Tilden 09/09/1762. regards Bob Bourne Maidstone ----- Original Message ----- From: "BOB CHOWN" <bob.chown@btinternet.com> To: "Josie Mackie" <josie.mackie@tesco.net>; "Woodchurch Ancestry Group" <ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:35 AM Subject: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] The Family of George Bourne 1712-1790 > Dear Josie > > I attach what we have been able to find out, beyond doubt, about the > family of George Bourne 1712-1790 and Elizabeth Brown (-1794) showing > details of their ten children. I also include images of three marriage > entries from Parish Registers where William Bourne, I believe, wrote his > signature. They are images of photocopies so not the absolute best. I > think they were all done by the same hand. > > There are many questions still unanswered. Among these are: > > 1. We have searched for the baptism of Elizabeth Bourne circa 1760 in all > the Parish Registers around Warehorne, including the whole of Romney Marsh > using David Hill's Baptism Index for that District, to no avail. He age > when buried, the monumental inscription with her husband John Fullagar, > the details in her father's will giving her parents, the fact that she was > not a minor at marriage in 1782, her marriage in the Church of England > that required the parties to have been baptised as did burial in the > churchyard, make us believe that she was baptized probably at Warehorne or > Woodchurch, but that her baptism appears to have been 'lost', > > 2. The are two marriages that could be those of Joseph (1746-) and Thomas > (1749-1778) the first at Leeds and the second at Lydd but both are 'of > this parish' and there are no Bourne witnesses. Inconclusive based on that > evidence, > > 3. One of the marriage entries involving William Bourne is for a George > Bourne of Warehorne and Ann Waddell at Ruckinge in 1772. A George Bourne > is buried at Warehorne in 1776 and an Ann Bourne widow remarries at > Warehorne in 1784. Was he another brother of William, a second bearing > that name, whose baptism was also missed? Due to his early death, he would > not have been mentioned in his father's will in 1788. There is another > George Bourne baptised around the same year as William but in Kenardington > and at least two more who could be about the right age in Appledore. None > of these are sons of a George and Elizabeth Bourne. Cousins perhaps. > > I am very interested in what you think and whether you can add anything? > > If any WAG member would like copies of what I sent to Josie Mackie they > need to contact me on a one to one basis and I will sent them as > attachments. Josie and I, whose joint ancestors this family are, would be > very interested in any additional information, backed by irrefutable > sources, that members can provide. Eek! is this English? > > Best wishes - Bob Chown > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Dear Josie I attach what we have been able to find out, beyond doubt, about the family of George Bourne 1712-1790 and Elizabeth Brown (-1794) showing details of their ten children. I also include images of three marriage entries from Parish Registers where William Bourne, I believe, wrote his signature. They are images of photocopies so not the absolute best. I think they were all done by the same hand. There are many questions still unanswered. Among these are: 1. We have searched for the baptism of Elizabeth Bourne circa 1760 in all the Parish Registers around Warehorne, including the whole of Romney Marsh using David Hill's Baptism Index for that District, to no avail. He age when buried, the monumental inscription with her husband John Fullagar, the details in her father's will giving her parents, the fact that she was not a minor at marriage in 1782, her marriage in the Church of England that required the parties to have been baptised as did burial in the churchyard, make us believe that she was baptized probably at Warehorne or Woodchurch, but that her baptism appears to have been 'lost', 2. The are two marriages that could be those of Joseph (1746-) and Thomas (1749-1778) the first at Leeds and the second at Lydd but both are 'of this parish' and there are no Bourne witnesses. Inconclusive based on that evidence, 3. One of the marriage entries involving William Bourne is for a George Bourne of Warehorne and Ann Waddell at Ruckinge in 1772. A George Bourne is buried at Warehorne in 1776 and an Ann Bourne widow remarries at Warehorne in 1784. Was he another brother of William, a second bearing that name, whose baptism was also missed? Due to his early death, he would not have been mentioned in his father's will in 1788. There is another George Bourne baptised around the same year as William but in Kenardington and at least two more who could be about the right age in Appledore. None of these are sons of a George and Elizabeth Bourne. Cousins perhaps. I am very interested in what you think and whether you can add anything? If any WAG member would like copies of what I sent to Josie Mackie they need to contact me on a one to one basis and I will sent them as attachments. Josie and I, whose joint ancestors this family are, would be very interested in any additional information, backed by irrefutable sources, that members can provide. Eek! is this English? Best wishes - Bob Chown

Thank you, Bob, I now know I didn't imagine it! I think what I read may have been in a Parish magazine of that time. Pity it was 1907; as you say, it was probably too late for Joseph Kingsnorth who would have been 87...but there may be something in the Local Paper for that year. Thanks again, Josie