For those who are following Bob Chown's progress to restore the Fullagar tomb at Woodchurch, there's an update here: www.goldbern.co.uk/woodchurch/fullagartomb.htm Gary Samson Canterbury, Kent Woodchurch Then & Now www.goldbern.co.uk/woodchurch/thenandnow.htm

Hello Philip, Woodchurch Museum would be delighted to have a copy of your tree in the Study Centre. Quite a few others have done the same, and these resources give a lot of pleasure and satisfaction to those visiting the museum to do genealogical research. Charles Boxer -----Original Message----- From: eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Philip Paine Sent: 04 March 2007 22:13 To: ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Message to the Woodchurch list Hi, After a lot of compiling but surprisingly not too much effort to research, I have managed to get my family tree back to 1690 and for two generations at least we resided in Woodchurch. My family are the Paine's of who you appear to be interested in for genealogy purposes and my grand-father (1909-1977) married into the large Bingham clan from Shadoxhurst in whom you again have an interest. I have photographed our old houses and sites of house and traced 5 generations of graves and added photographs of my schools and work places so not surprisingly it runs to about 28 pages and then there are 8 birth/dearth/marriage certificates too. Can I drop a photocopy of it off with someone? Philip Paine. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, After a lot of compiling but surprisingly not too much effort to research, I have managed to get my family tree back to 1690 and for two generations at least we resided in Woodchurch. My family are the Paine's of who you appear to be interested in for genealogy purposes and my grand-father (1909-1977) married into the large Bingham clan from Shadoxhurst in whom you again have an interest. I have photographed our old houses and sites of house and traced 5 generations of graves and added photographs of my schools and work places so not surprisingly it runs to about 28 pages and then there are 8 birth/dearth/marriage certificates too. Can I drop a photocopy of it off with someone? Philip Paine.

Good Evening to the List, This came from a friend yesterday and through I would send it on to others for food for thought what will happen to all of our hard work and the joy of finding someone that we cannot find when we do find them.... There was a question to the list concerning what will happen to our genealogy files at death. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gazetteer2000/codicil.htm Cheers for now and have a nice day Alice in Qld,Aus

Hi Martin Rather than writing out all the parishes of what the CD covers if you go online to Kent FHS website and then go to publications or something - look for CD Rom 12 which is entitled Parish Register - Vol 3 incorporating the Mary Wigan Transcripts. This gives you all the parishes the cd covers and yes would like to know what possibly parish he came from and will look it up. Benjamin by trade was a linen weaver. Suzanne King FAMILY HISTORY NAMES I AM SEARCHING Bean - Roxeth/Harrow, Middlesex and East London Brown - East London and Plymouth, Devon Clark - Welwyn, Hertfordshire and Hornsey, Harringey in Middlesex Eastcott and variants - England, Australia, New Zealand, America, Canada (Guild of One Name Study - Registered) Frost - Jacobstow, Inwardleigh, Sampford Courtenay and Okehampton, Devon Hendry - East London King - Woodchurch, Kent, East Sussex and New Forest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Willcocks" <martinwill2@comcast.net> To: <eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Benjamin King born c1706 > Thanks very much, Suzanne. > > Quite interesting, as there is a ROWE connection on my paternal side in > Cornwall. > I would like to know which parishes you CD-ROM covers, and may be able > to suggest a few possibilities of names we may have in common that could > be on this CD. > > Regards > Martin Willcocks > Taylorsville, UT, USA. > > suzanne.king2 wrote: > >>Hi all to the King researchers >> >>Just bought from the Kent FHS CD Rom 12 that covers Cranbrook (as well as >>others) baps from 1559 in the search for Benjamin King's baptisms c1706. >>He is not there, so seeing that he married Mary KOWE on 21/10/1731 in >>Cranbrook thought I would look for their marriage. She has been >>transcribed as Mary ROWE (which is more believable than KOWE) and he was a >>SOJOURNER which means at time of his marriage he was temporary resident in >>Cranbrook and thus not necessarily born or baptised there. I will at some >>point look through the other parishes to find his baptism and let you >>know. >> >>Suzanne King >> >>FAMILY HISTORY NAMES I AM SEARCHING >> >>Bean - Roxeth/Harrow, Middlesex and East London >>Brown - East London and Plymouth, Devon >>Clark - Welwyn, Hertfordshire and Hornsey, Harringey in Middlesex >>Eastcott and variants - England, Australia, New Zealand, America, Canada >>(Guild of One Name Study - Registered) >>Frost - Jacobstow, Inwardleigh, Sampford Courtenay and Okehampton, Devon >>Hendry - East London >>King - Woodchurch, Kent, East Sussex and New Forest >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good Afternoon All, Just a quick message to let you all know that I have received the first 14+ contribution for our 2008 Summer Exhibition. Thank you, Alan, for a very interesting piece on your Woodchurch ancestors in 1871. We are eagerly awaiting others now...!!! Josie

Thanks very much, Suzanne. Quite interesting, as there is a ROWE connection on my paternal side in Cornwall. I would like to know which parishes you CD-ROM covers, and may be able to suggest a few possibilities of names we may have in common that could be on this CD. Regards Martin Willcocks Taylorsville, UT, USA. suzanne.king2 wrote: >Hi all to the King researchers > >Just bought from the Kent FHS CD Rom 12 that covers Cranbrook (as well as others) baps from 1559 in the search for Benjamin King's baptisms c1706. He is not there, so seeing that he married Mary KOWE on 21/10/1731 in Cranbrook thought I would look for their marriage. She has been transcribed as Mary ROWE (which is more believable than KOWE) and he was a SOJOURNER which means at time of his marriage he was temporary resident in Cranbrook and thus not necessarily born or baptised there. I will at some point look through the other parishes to find his baptism and let you know. > >Suzanne King > >FAMILY HISTORY NAMES I AM SEARCHING > >Bean - Roxeth/Harrow, Middlesex and East London >Brown - East London and Plymouth, Devon >Clark - Welwyn, Hertfordshire and Hornsey, Harringey in Middlesex >Eastcott and variants - England, Australia, New Zealand, America, Canada (Guild of One Name Study - Registered) >Frost - Jacobstow, Inwardleigh, Sampford Courtenay and Okehampton, Devon >Hendry - East London >King - Woodchurch, Kent, East Sussex and New Forest > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi all to the King researchers Just bought from the Kent FHS CD Rom 12 that covers Cranbrook (as well as others) baps from 1559 in the search for Benjamin King's baptisms c1706. He is not there, so seeing that he married Mary KOWE on 21/10/1731 in Cranbrook thought I would look for their marriage. She has been transcribed as Mary ROWE (which is more believable than KOWE) and he was a SOJOURNER which means at time of his marriage he was temporary resident in Cranbrook and thus not necessarily born or baptised there. I will at some point look through the other parishes to find his baptism and let you know. Suzanne King FAMILY HISTORY NAMES I AM SEARCHING Bean - Roxeth/Harrow, Middlesex and East London Brown - East London and Plymouth, Devon Clark - Welwyn, Hertfordshire and Hornsey, Harringey in Middlesex Eastcott and variants - England, Australia, New Zealand, America, Canada (Guild of One Name Study - Registered) Frost - Jacobstow, Inwardleigh, Sampford Courtenay and Okehampton, Devon Hendry - East London King - Woodchurch, Kent, East Sussex and New Forest

Hello, browsing on eBay, noticed an item up for auction - Probate dated 1872, the will of Richard Reader of Woodchurch, mentions the names; Henry Hook, Samuel R Fullagar & Eliza M Fullagar, in case any of you were interested. Many thanks to all that gave me information on the Woodchurch Clubs, regards Sarah

Hi There, Just wondering if anyone happens to know anything about Richard Ditton b.c1780 who married Amy (Elizabeth?) Pearson April 4, 1813. I believe a son, George, was born about 9 years before the marriage. I seem to have a lot of earlier Dittons on my tree and was curious if any were connected to this particular Richard. Would very much appreciate any help you can give me with this. Regards, Gillian (from a very cold, snowy Canada - how I miss the English Spring!) _________________________________________________________________ Buy what you want when you want it on Sympatico / MSN Shopping http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca/content/shp/?ctId=2,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=081805

Dear Charles, I have read both your and Josie's emails, at last perhaps ,I will find the in formation I have been seeking.. My grandfather Edward Pearce was the postman Tenterden to Woodchurch for some 36 years until his retirement in 1902..Edward was born in the village , son of John(shoemaker) and grandson of James Pearce , the Parish clerk for some 20 years. I have been given to understand the Edward was a member of the Woodchurch String Band; as well as being a member of the Tenterden and the 2ndVB East Kent Regimentbands. does the Museum have any information on these organisations/photos that I could have copies of , or any thing else that will give more "flesh" to put on the bones of my ancestor? I will gladly reimburse any costs which I may incur. Regards to all Sheila Windsor (Pearce) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Boxer" <charles.boxer@woodchurchmuseum.com> To: <eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com>; <sarahroberts1976@fsmail.net> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Woodchurch Club Hello all, The Woodchurch Provident Society (The Woodchurch Club) was a very important organisation in the village in the late 19th/early 20th century. In the museum we have photos of "Club Day" taken in Edwardian times. It was a great day of celebration, and the "Club" displayed its banner, which was modelled on the classic Trades Union-type banners of the time (ie a large painted silk banner held up by two poles. Its function was indeed as outlined by Josie. It must have had a considerable membership, and had the support of the worthies of the village, as one of the photos was taken in the grounds of the Rectory. Charles -----Original Message----- From: eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Josie Mackie Sent: 24 February 2007 16:02 To: sarahroberts1976@fsmail.net; eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Woodchurch Club Dear Sarah, Woodchurch seems to be good place to live if you want to join a club. In "Then and Now" http://goldbern.co.uk/woodchurch/thenandnow.htm are listed over 70 clubs, many of which are still going strong. I don't know for sure if the following is the club you are looking for, but it seems likely. It is a report from the local Ashford (Kentish Express, I think?) paper from May 1908. It seems to suggest that it was a kind of mutual aid society, with people paying in money to help others in times of trouble/sickness, and there are several names that others on the list may be interested in. TheW Beslee, vice-chair, was, I presume, my great-uncle, William Beslee, who lived at Redbrook Farm, and Mr Kenward was headmaster of the Village School. Hope this helps, Josie The Woodchurch Club The anniversary in connection with the Woodchurch Provident Society was held on Wednesday. The brethren assembled at the Bonny Cravat at nine o'clock to transact business and at 10:30, headed by the Woodchurch Brass Band, under Bandmaster W Ditton, paraded the village till twelve o'clock, when they attended service in the parish church. Canon Hardy (rector of Lydd) preached. Service over, the members repaired to a spacious tent adjoining the Bony Cravat, where an excellent dinner was served by Host Milton. Doctor Doughty presided, and was supported by Messrs T B Marchant, S S Millen, C Orpin jun., Ernest Orpin, G C Marshall, H Jarvis, G Law-Watts, A Law-Watts, W Pearson, H Pearson, W Baker, C Lindridge jun, H Wells sen, and H Wells jun, Mr W Beslee, the newly-elected vice-president of the society, occupied the vice-chair. Ample justice having been done to the good things provided, the Chairman proposed the loyal and clerical toasts, Mr S S Millen, an old churchwarden, responding to the latter. The Chairman next gave "The Navy and Army" and Mr T B Marchant, and old member of the Imperial Yeomanry, responded. In proposing "success to the Woodchurch Provident Society" the chairman spoke of the good the society had done, and was still doing, and trusting it would still continue to flourish for very many years to come. He coupled with the toast the name of the energetic and indefatigable secretary, Mr T C Kenward. Mr Kenward in responding, stated that the total receipts for the year amounted to £311 10sh, and the expenditure to £302 19sh 1d., leaving a working balance of £8 10sh 11d, which, with the interest on the reserve fund and donations, £46 11sh 3d, made a net gain on the year of £55 2sh 2d. They had had a heavy year of sickness, which had absorbed the sum of £173 1sh, which was £19 3sh in excess of the sum paid for sickness last year. They had also paid £32 for deaths. The total value of the funds of the society amounted to £1224 4sh. The number of members on the books was 219. He regretted to inform them that he wished to tender his resignation, such resignation to take place on the first Monday in October next. Mr C Orpin in eulogistic terms, proposed the health of "The Chairman", and the latter, in reply, said that on looking over the register at the church he found that about three hundred years ago, there was a certain Wm Doughty in the parish, who, like himself, had an only daughter, and stranger still, that daughter bore the same Christian name as his daughter did. He had one more toast to propose to them, and that was the health of "The Visitors and Their Host and Hostess." Host Milton very suitably responded. The Woodchurch Brass Band gave some capital selections and dance music throughout the day, and Messrs H George and W Elliott contributed a capital supply of songs. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Boxer" <charles.boxer@woodchurchmuseum.com> To: <eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com>; <sarahroberts1976@fsmail.net> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Woodchurch Club Hello all, The Woodchurch Provident Society (The Woodchurch Club) was a very important organisation in the village in the late 19th/early 20th century. In the museum we have photos of "Club Day" taken in Edwardian times. It was a great day of celebration, and the "Club" displayed its banner, which was modelled on the classic Trades Union-type banners of the time (ie a large painted silk banner held up by two poles. Its function was indeed as outlined by Josie. It must have had a considerable membership, and had the support of the worthies of the village, as one of the photos was taken in the grounds of the Rectory. Charles -----Original Message----- From: eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Josie Mackie Sent: 24 February 2007 16:02 To: sarahroberts1976@fsmail.net; eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Woodchurch Club Dear Sarah, Woodchurch seems to be good place to live if you want to join a club. In "Then and Now" http://goldbern.co.uk/woodchurch/thenandnow.htm are listed over 70 clubs, many of which are still going strong. I don't know for sure if the following is the club you are looking for, but it seems likely. It is a report from the local Ashford (Kentish Express, I think?) paper from May 1908. It seems to suggest that it was a kind of mutual aid society, with people paying in money to help others in times of trouble/sickness, and there are several names that others on the list may be interested in. TheW Beslee, vice-chair, was, I presume, my great-uncle, William Beslee, who lived at Redbrook Farm, and Mr Kenward was headmaster of the Village School. Hope this helps, Josie The Woodchurch Club The anniversary in connection with the Woodchurch Provident Society was held on Wednesday. The brethren assembled at the Bonny Cravat at nine o'clock to transact business and at 10:30, headed by the Woodchurch Brass Band, under Bandmaster W Ditton, paraded the village till twelve o'clock, when they attended service in the parish church. Canon Hardy (rector of Lydd) preached. Service over, the members repaired to a spacious tent adjoining the Bony Cravat, where an excellent dinner was served by Host Milton. Doctor Doughty presided, and was supported by Messrs T B Marchant, S S Millen, C Orpin jun., Ernest Orpin, G C Marshall, H Jarvis, G Law-Watts, A Law-Watts, W Pearson, H Pearson, W Baker, C Lindridge jun, H Wells sen, and H Wells jun, Mr W Beslee, the newly-elected vice-president of the society, occupied the vice-chair. Ample justice having been done to the good things provided, the Chairman proposed the loyal and clerical toasts, Mr S S Millen, an old churchwarden, responding to the latter. The Chairman next gave "The Navy and Army" and Mr T B Marchant, and old member of the Imperial Yeomanry, responded. In proposing "success to the Woodchurch Provident Society" the chairman spoke of the good the society had done, and was still doing, and trusting it would still continue to flourish for very many years to come. He coupled with the toast the name of the energetic and indefatigable secretary, Mr T C Kenward. Mr Kenward in responding, stated that the total receipts for the year amounted to £311 10sh, and the expenditure to £302 19sh 1d., leaving a working balance of £8 10sh 11d, which, with the interest on the reserve fund and donations, £46 11sh 3d, made a net gain on the year of £55 2sh 2d. They had had a heavy year of sickness, which had absorbed the sum of £173 1sh, which was £19 3sh in excess of the sum paid for sickness last year. They had also paid £32 for deaths. The total value of the funds of the society amounted to £1224 4sh. The number of members on the books was 219. He regretted to inform them that he wished to tender his resignation, such resignation to take place on the first Monday in October next. Mr C Orpin in eulogistic terms, proposed the health of "The Chairman", and the latter, in reply, said that on looking over the register at the church he found that about three hundred years ago, there was a certain Wm Doughty in the parish, who, like himself, had an only daughter, and stranger still, that daughter bore the same Christian name as his daughter did. He had one more toast to propose to them, and that was the health of "The Visitors and Their Host and Hostess." Host Milton very suitably responded. The Woodchurch Brass Band gave some capital selections and dance music throughout the day, and Messrs H George and W Elliott contributed a capital supply of songs. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Peter, Thanks for your answer. I doubt myself that the lady is in the right place withWoodchurch and I presume that Hook is a fairly common surname, but you never know with these old family traditions...there may well be a grain of truth in it. I shall tell you a story to prove my point :-) : Back in the early seventies, when I started my family tree, my grandparents were all dead, so my aunt took me to visit my great-aunt Emily, whom I'd never met before. She was a lovely lady and told me a lot about her family. One thing in particular stuck with me though: she showed me phots of her and her sisters when they were young. They were beautiful, very dark hair and tanned-looking skin. She said that they were very often thought to be Spanish because of this..... And then proceeded to tell me that her father's great-grandfather was a Spanish gardener who had run off with a lord's daughter. Well, I've always been a bit sceptical by nature and took it with a pinch of salt and anyway I'd already traced back the requisite number of generations to know this couldn't be right. Time passed, Aunt Em died and I carried on.... Now, although all my Back family (Aunt Em's and my maiden name) were very poor right back to the Benjamin Back who died in Woodchurch in 1757 "in the poor house" , I found to my astonishment that his grandfather and great-grandfather had actually been lords of the Manor of Raymonds in Wye (just north of Ashford). There was my 'lord'! Then I found that another of our ancestors was John Gardiner, who died in Woodchurch in 1738, and owned the house by the original Wesleyan Chapel. There's our Gardener! Now, the Spaniard...well, there was a family called Spain in the village, late 18th- early 19th, from whom my paternal grandmother is descended, so not an ancestor of my Aunt Em...unless well, you never know! I'm working on that part! There's a few illegitimate births in the family then. And if they are called Spain, there is probably an original Spaniard somewhere back there. So although my aunt's story wasn't entirely correct, I shouldn't have discounted it altogether, !!! Don't you just love family history, never know what you'll find!!!!....... Best wishes, Josie

Hello all, The Woodchurch Provident Society (The Woodchurch Club) was a very important organisation in the village in the late 19th/early 20th century. In the museum we have photos of "Club Day" taken in Edwardian times. It was a great day of celebration, and the "Club" displayed its banner, which was modelled on the classic Trades Union-type banners of the time (ie a large painted silk banner held up by two poles. Its function was indeed as outlined by Josie. It must have had a considerable membership, and had the support of the worthies of the village, as one of the photos was taken in the grounds of the Rectory. Charles -----Original Message----- From: eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Josie Mackie Sent: 24 February 2007 16:02 To: sarahroberts1976@fsmail.net; eng-ken-woodchurch@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH] Woodchurch Club Dear Sarah, Woodchurch seems to be good place to live if you want to join a club. In "Then and Now" http://goldbern.co.uk/woodchurch/thenandnow.htm are listed over 70 clubs, many of which are still going strong. I don't know for sure if the following is the club you are looking for, but it seems likely. It is a report from the local Ashford (Kentish Express, I think?) paper from May 1908. It seems to suggest that it was a kind of mutual aid society, with people paying in money to help others in times of trouble/sickness, and there are several names that others on the list may be interested in. TheW Beslee, vice-chair, was, I presume, my great-uncle, William Beslee, who lived at Redbrook Farm, and Mr Kenward was headmaster of the Village School. Hope this helps, Josie The Woodchurch Club The anniversary in connection with the Woodchurch Provident Society was held on Wednesday. The brethren assembled at the Bonny Cravat at nine o'clock to transact business and at 10:30, headed by the Woodchurch Brass Band, under Bandmaster W Ditton, paraded the village till twelve o'clock, when they attended service in the parish church. Canon Hardy (rector of Lydd) preached. Service over, the members repaired to a spacious tent adjoining the Bony Cravat, where an excellent dinner was served by Host Milton. Doctor Doughty presided, and was supported by Messrs T B Marchant, S S Millen, C Orpin jun., Ernest Orpin, G C Marshall, H Jarvis, G Law-Watts, A Law-Watts, W Pearson, H Pearson, W Baker, C Lindridge jun, H Wells sen, and H Wells jun, Mr W Beslee, the newly-elected vice-president of the society, occupied the vice-chair. Ample justice having been done to the good things provided, the Chairman proposed the loyal and clerical toasts, Mr S S Millen, an old churchwarden, responding to the latter. The Chairman next gave "The Navy and Army" and Mr T B Marchant, and old member of the Imperial Yeomanry, responded. In proposing "success to the Woodchurch Provident Society" the chairman spoke of the good the society had done, and was still doing, and trusting it would still continue to flourish for very many years to come. He coupled with the toast the name of the energetic and indefatigable secretary, Mr T C Kenward. Mr Kenward in responding, stated that the total receipts for the year amounted to £311 10sh, and the expenditure to £302 19sh 1d., leaving a working balance of £8 10sh 11d, which, with the interest on the reserve fund and donations, £46 11sh 3d, made a net gain on the year of £55 2sh 2d. They had had a heavy year of sickness, which had absorbed the sum of £173 1sh, which was £19 3sh in excess of the sum paid for sickness last year. They had also paid £32 for deaths. The total value of the funds of the society amounted to £1224 4sh. The number of members on the books was 219. He regretted to inform them that he wished to tender his resignation, such resignation to take place on the first Monday in October next. Mr C Orpin in eulogistic terms, proposed the health of "The Chairman", and the latter, in reply, said that on looking over the register at the church he found that about three hundred years ago, there was a certain Wm Doughty in the parish, who, like himself, had an only daughter, and stranger still, that daughter bore the same Christian name as his daughter did. He had one more toast to propose to them, and that was the health of "The Visitors and Their Host and Hostess." Host Milton very suitably responded. The Woodchurch Brass Band gave some capital selections and dance music throughout the day, and Messrs H George and W Elliott contributed a capital supply of songs. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

eng-ken-woodchurch-bounces@rootsweb.com wrote: > Dear All, > I have received an enquiry via the website as follows. I > have replied to the lady saying that I have never heard of > Queen Victoria ever having visited Woodchurch. I would > presume also that she would have acted as Godmother and not > done the actual baptism herself! Any suggestions anyone? Is > anyone actually researching the Hook family of Woodchurch? Thanks, > Josie > This has to be complete tosh. The Mary baptised in 1847 is Mary Jane, not Mary Ida and the 1851 and 1861 censuses confirm her birth date as c1847. There is no sign of a brother William. The Church as we all know is All Saints, not St Marys. FreeBMD shows no Mary Ida Hook at all. There is a Mary Ida Stocker born 1843 in London. Sigh.... Peter Walker Hollyer~Holyer~Hollier One Name Study Web: http://www.hollyer.name Blog: http://hollyer.blogspot.com/ DNA: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Hollyer

Dear All, I have received an enquiry via the website as follows. I have replied to the lady saying that I have never heard of Queen Victoria ever having visited Woodchurch. I would presume also that she would have acted as Godmother and not done the actual baptism herself! Any suggestions anyone? Is anyone actually researching the Hook family of Woodchurch? Thanks, Josie I am looking for information on a woman named Mary Ida Hook. She was born in 1844. It has been said she was baptised by Queen Victoria at Little Mary's Wood Church. (I am wondering if it might be Woodchurch.) I would assume that perhaps Queen Victoria performed "mass" baptisms but do not know what the explanation might be. I see from your (very nice) site that you have some Hook families in the area and wonder if she might be related. MANY thanks. I have been trying to figure this out for years. There is a Mary Hook in your baptism records of 11 April 1847. I have been told by another genealogist that this is probably her, but it sure doesn't match the "Queen Victoria Story" and Little Mary's Wood Church (whatever or wherever that is). She could have been baptised when she was three years old, but I wouldn't know WHY if she was already baptised. On THAT Mary, she has a brother named William, and I SUSPECT that a William (b. England) that shows up near her family later in the U.S. census could be related. Maybe that is my Mary, but the Queen Victoria thing is so fascinating to me that I can't seem to give up trying to find what it means. MANY thanks for your response and help. You can't imagine how frustrating this has been over the years, and it's doubly hard trying to do it from such a far distance.

Dear Sarah, Woodchurch seems to be good place to live if you want to join a club. In "Then and Now" http://goldbern.co.uk/woodchurch/thenandnow.htm are listed over 70 clubs, many of which are still going strong. I don't know for sure if the following is the club you are looking for, but it seems likely. It is a report from the local Ashford (Kentish Express, I think?) paper from May 1908. It seems to suggest that it was a kind of mutual aid society, with people paying in money to help others in times of trouble/sickness, and there are several names that others on the list may be interested in. TheW Beslee, vice-chair, was, I presume, my great-uncle, William Beslee, who lived at Redbrook Farm, and Mr Kenward was headmaster of the Village School. Hope this helps, Josie The Woodchurch Club The anniversary in connection with the Woodchurch Provident Society was held on Wednesday. The brethren assembled at the Bonny Cravat at nine o'clock to transact business and at 10:30, headed by the Woodchurch Brass Band, under Bandmaster W Ditton, paraded the village till twelve o'clock, when they attended service in the parish church. Canon Hardy (rector of Lydd) preached. Service over, the members repaired to a spacious tent adjoining the Bony Cravat, where an excellent dinner was served by Host Milton. Doctor Doughty presided, and was supported by Messrs T B Marchant, S S Millen, C Orpin jun., Ernest Orpin, G C Marshall, H Jarvis, G Law-Watts, A Law-Watts, W Pearson, H Pearson, W Baker, C Lindridge jun, H Wells sen, and H Wells jun, Mr W Beslee, the newly-elected vice-president of the society, occupied the vice-chair. Ample justice having been done to the good things provided, the Chairman proposed the loyal and clerical toasts, Mr S S Millen, an old churchwarden, responding to the latter. The Chairman next gave "The Navy and Army" and Mr T B Marchant, and old member of the Imperial Yeomanry, responded. In proposing "success to the Woodchurch Provident Society" the chairman spoke of the good the society had done, and was still doing, and trusting it would still continue to flourish for very many years to come. He coupled with the toast the name of the energetic and indefatigable secretary, Mr T C Kenward. Mr Kenward in responding, stated that the total receipts for the year amounted to £311 10sh, and the expenditure to £302 19sh 1d., leaving a working balance of £8 10sh 11d, which, with the interest on the reserve fund and donations, £46 11sh 3d, made a net gain on the year of £55 2sh 2d. They had had a heavy year of sickness, which had absorbed the sum of £173 1sh, which was £19 3sh in excess of the sum paid for sickness last year. They had also paid £32 for deaths. The total value of the funds of the society amounted to £1224 4sh. The number of members on the books was 219. He regretted to inform them that he wished to tender his resignation, such resignation to take place on the first Monday in October next. Mr C Orpin in eulogistic terms, proposed the health of "The Chairman", and the latter, in reply, said that on looking over the register at the church he found that about three hundred years ago, there was a certain Wm Doughty in the parish, who, like himself, had an only daughter, and stranger still, that daughter bore the same Christian name as his daughter did. He had one more toast to propose to them, and that was the health of "The Visitors and Their Host and Hostess." Host Milton very suitably responded. The Woodchurch Brass Band gave some capital selections and dance music throughout the day, and Messrs H George and W Elliott contributed a capital supply of songs.

This is a very tenuous reply to an inquiry about the queen attending a christening in the area. But the timing could be right.. My family has a tradition that my great-grandmother, Ann Rebecca Wood (born 1844 at Little Goldwell farm between Hothfield and Great Chart), was given a christening dress by a lady-in-waiting to the queen. Little Goldwell was owned at that time by Lord Thanet, but I don't know if his wife ever was a lady in waiting or even if the story is true. However my family still has the dress and the female descendants have worn it, up to the present. I am not suggesting that the queen attended Ann Rebecca's christening, but perhaps that was a tradition at the time? Were there crown lands near W oodchurch? However, I am always looking for connections to the Wood family who did live in Woodchurch for some generations before moving to Great Chart. Also looking for connections in Little Chart, Kenardington, Hothfield and High Halden. plus surnames including Chittenden, Noakes, Elvy, Small, Brown, Wraight. Lois Squire. <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Non-Woodchurch-Gen: Though I know nothing about whether Queen Victoria ever visited Woodchurch, she did spend a lot of time on the Royal Yacht, Victoria & Albert II, where my grandfather was the sick berth steward and dispenser. He had previously been sick berth steward on the Royal Yacht Osborne. There is, therefore, some level of truth in my father's claim that the Queen had given him the title of "Chief Dispensing Chemist to Her Majesty's Navy", (possibly a humorous aside rather than an official title, though.) Do not discount your family stories - it took me years to find out my grandfather's real relationship to Her Majesty! I believe the Woodchurch parish church is dedicated to All Saints, not Mary. Have you tried searching Genuki for this parish? FamilySearch has a William HOOK chr. Tenterden, Kent, s/o Richard HOOK & Elizabeth BARNES (m. 15 Nov 1838 at Tenterden) on 19 Oct 1842; he has siblings Richard, 30 Jun 1839; Caroline, 14 Feb 1841; George, 30 Jun 1844; Sion, 4 Mar 1849; Alfred, 6 Jul 1849; and Elizabeth, 21 Jul 1850 & 8 Sep 1850. The latter two baptisms are probably a private one soon after birth and a public reception later, which often happened when an infant was in danger of dying soon after birth. No Mary, though. I'm interested in this as I haven't been able so far to find the lineage of Lydia BARNES, my 3ggm who married Joseph KING on 5 Nov 1789 at Woodchurch. Richard HOOK (father) was probably chr. 9 May 1816 Ebony, Kent s/o William & Elizabeth HUNTLEY m. 12 Sep 1810 at Tenterden (patron submission - Richard was 22 at marriage). There is an Elizabeth BARNES chr 9 May 1819 (d. 10 Mar 1853) at Ebony, Kent, d/o Samuel BARNES and Mary MASTERS, who has no apparent siblings, but whose parents married 20 May 1817 at Tenterden, so Elizabeth could have been born earlier than 1819 (she was 21 at marriage). Another IGI patron submission is the following: Mary HOOK, b. 11 Aug 1842, Kent, England; d. 19 Jun 1854 Penfield, Monroe, New York, d/o George King HOOK and Catherine Anna CHECKSFIELD. The middle name KING is also one of my direct lines, so will need to do more research on this one! The same patron probably submitted George and Catherine's marriage bef. 1836 in Kent, and his birth as 16 Feb 1816 at Tenterden and death 24 Nov 1862 at Penfield, Monroe, NY. If the birth date is correct, he was definitely not a sibling of the aforementioned Richard HOOK, but could well have been a cousin. With all patron submissions, it is difficult to know how much of the information is supported by searchable records, so local research would be very helpful in this case. I also have an indirect connection to HOOK as there is a John KING/Margaret HOOK marriage at Woodchurch on 5 Jun 1840, John being another grandson of Joseph KING and Lydia BARNES. Regards Martin Willcocks Taylorsville, UT, USA. Josie Mackie wrote: >Dear All, >I have received an enquiry via the website as follows. I have replied to the lady saying that I have never heard of Queen Victoria ever having visited Woodchurch. I would presume also that she would have acted as Godmother and not done the actual baptism herself! Any suggestions anyone? Is anyone actually researching the Hook family of Woodchurch? >Thanks, >Josie > > > > > I am looking for information on a woman named Mary Ida Hook. She was born in 1844. It has been said she was baptised by Queen Victoria at Little Mary's Wood Church. (I am wondering if it might be Woodchurch.) > >I would assume that perhaps Queen Victoria performed "mass" baptisms but do not know what the explanation might be. > >I see from your (very nice) site that you have some Hook families in the area and wonder if she might be related. MANY thanks. I have been trying to figure this out for years. >There is a Mary Hook in your baptism records of 11 April 1847. I have been told by another genealogist that this is probably her, but it sure doesn't match the "Queen Victoria Story" and Little Mary's Wood Church (whatever or wherever that is). She could have been baptised when she was three years old, but I wouldn't know WHY if she was already baptised. > >On THAT Mary, she has a brother named William, and I SUSPECT that a William (b. England) that shows up near her family later in the U.S. census could be related. Maybe that is my Mary, but the Queen Victoria thing is so fascinating to me that I can't seem to give up trying to find what it means. > >MANY thanks for your response and help. You can't imagine how frustrating this has been over the years, and it's doubly hard trying to do it from such a far distance. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-KEN-WOODCHURCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello everyone, it has been a while since I have left a message, but back on the trail of my family history!! My sister and my mum went to Ashford and found the newspaper article regarding Samuel F Turners death in 1903 (in detail!) it contained lots of information including....He was the oldest member of the Woodchurch Club having joined in 1861... does anyone have any information on what they did, etc ??? Many thanks Sarah