The Goodwin/Goodson mistranscription is then doubly compounded by Hunts being transcribed as Hants, although in this case looking at the original it's more understandable! >From: "Ron Goodwin" <ron_goodwin@circa1984.com> >To: ENG-HUNTINGDON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Julia GOODWIN missing from 1881 census >Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:30:05 +0100 > >I have a relative, Julia GOODWIN, born 07 Sep 1857 in Godmanchester. I >have trawled through the entire 1881 census, all counties, but cannot find >her at all. She appears on the 1891 in Staffordshire and on the 1901 in >Birmingham as a school teacher.[I do not have the 1861 or 1871 census for >Hunts]. Can anyone hazard a guess why she is not on the 1881 please? > >[I considered that she might have married then parted and reverted to her >maiden name but have looked through all of the Julias on the 1881 without >success] > >Regards >Ron Goodwin, Chorley, Lancs. >

I think she's mistranscribed as Julia Goodson in Rowley Regis, Staffs. The original is fairly clearly Goodwin. Regards David >From: "Ron Goodwin" <ron_goodwin@circa1984.com> >To: ENG-HUNTINGDON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Julia GOODWIN missing from 1881 census >Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:30:05 +0100 > >I have a relative, Julia GOODWIN, born 07 Sep 1857 in Godmanchester. I >have trawled through the entire 1881 census, all counties, but cannot find >her at all. She appears on the 1891 in Staffordshire and on the 1901 in >Birmingham as a school teacher.[I do not have the 1861 or 1871 census for >Hunts]. Can anyone hazard a guess why she is not on the 1881 please? > >[I considered that she might have married then parted and reverted to her >maiden name but have looked through all of the Julias on the 1881 without >success] > >Regards >Ron Goodwin, Chorley, Lancs. >

I have a relative, Julia GOODWIN, born 07 Sep 1857 in Godmanchester. I have trawled through the entire 1881 census, all counties, but cannot find her at all. She appears on the 1891 in Staffordshire and on the 1901 in Birmingham as a school teacher.[I do not have the 1861 or 1871 census for Hunts]. Can anyone hazard a guess why she is not on the 1881 please? [I considered that she might have married then parted and reverted to her maiden name but have looked through all of the Julias on the 1881 without success] Regards Ron Goodwin, Chorley, Lancs.

Hello list Three of my relatives, Martha, Eliza and Ann CADWELL (aged 5, 4, 2) (all baptised in Great Paxton) have been found in the 1841 census staying with William FLANDERS (Blacksmith) (age 65) and his wife Sarah (55) in Eaton Socon. Their older siblings and parents are elsewhere (I've not tracked them down yet) Does anyone have an interest in either of these families or know of any link between them? Any information gratefully received Colin Moretti I'm a member of the Anglo-Italian Family History Society http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk Looking for MORETTI, PAGLIANO, BARGMAN, in London CADWELL & MILLER in Cambridgeshire & Huntingdon TYAS, IVESON, WOOD, ABBOTT in Yorkshire

Having just checked the Elton PR's (burials) around 1835, I've come across several entries giving Cooper's Hospital as the place of residence. On looking on http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ at the OS map for 1892 for Elton, Cooper's Hospital is located near to the Black Horse Public House. I take it that this was the old parish workhouse - can anyone confirm this (or not), please? Many thanks Maureen Mitchell A Yorkshire Tyke laikin' i' Norfolk (UK) Researching FOWLER, MANTON, SPENCER, WORSTER in Huntingdonshire & BRUDENELL in Northamptonshire

(Date) (Name/Item) (Amount) 1800 Cont Brot Up 34/9/10 May 1st Pd Shelton's Child up to 2 of June 0/14/0 Jno Smith in the ford 0/2/6 Brit Brace 2/ Jno Newman 4/ 0/6/0 Smith 1/ Chessham 3/ 0/4/0 W Hull 4/6 W Gardner 1/6 0/6/0 Peacock 3/3/0 Wid Pack 1/ Jona Rowlett 5/ 0/6/0 Mary Clark 1/6 Jno Markham 2/6 0/4/0 Smith in the ford 0/2/0 Quince 2/ James Jarvis for Shoes 4/6 0/6/6 W Conquest 5/6 F Attwood 1/6 0/7/0 Ann Hull 3/ T Wright 7/6 0/10/6 T Martin 1/ Valentine 2/ 0/3/0 T Johnson 1/6 Wid Day 1/ 0/2/6 Lofty 13/ T Walker 1/6 0/14/6 J Smith in the ford 2/6 Mayes 3/ 0/5/6 Ann Hull 9/ Fulch 4/ 0/13/0 Attwood 7/ nutty Cooper 10/ 0/17/0 Eliz Goodchilds 1/ W James 2/6 0/3/6 Jarvis Child 1/ Wid Thody 4/ 0/5/0 Jona Rowlett 7/ T Morton 2/ 0/9/0 T Newman 5/ T Robinson 7/ 0/12/0 W Hicks 1/ Jno Smith 2/6 0/3/6 Wid Brown 4/ Ann Simpson 3/6 0/7/6 Brit Brace 2/ Thos Johnson 4/ 0/6/0 W Valentine 3/ Ann Muffin 7/ 0/10/0 Endersby 1/6 James Jarvis 1/ 0/2/6 Sarah Mole 2/ Shadbolt 5/ 0/7/0 Sargant 2/6 Eliz Day 2/ 0/4/6 Pheby Darlow 5/ Mary Cranfield 1/6 0/6/6 Mary Brown 1/6 Wid Barker 4/ 0/5/6 Edy Barker 2/ Grace Briley 1/6 0/3/6 Day 6/ Eliz Do 5/ 0/11/0 Jno Quick 4/ Wid Lee 2/ 0/6/0 Mary Oakley 1/6 Simon Bass 3/ 0/4/6 Eliz Bolton 1/ W Stokes 2/6 0/3/6 W Foot 1/ S Sallaway Jun 4/ 0/5/0 Witherow's Children 3/6 Cross 3/ 0/6/6 Card Forward 49/19/4

Hi Listers, I will be unsubbing for a month later today, as we'll be leaving for the UK shortly, including a cousin's wedding at Glasgow (Mom's family). Talk to you after June 18. :) Jim Bundy Kirkland Washington, USA Page 128 When Baptised (year) Month Day Child's Christian Name Son of / Daughter of Parents Name Surname Abode Quality, Trade, or Profession By whom the Ceremony was performed 1885 February 22 Emma William Thomas & Eliza Manning Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar February 22 William Henry & Emma Giblet Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar February 22 James Arthur Robert & Elizabeth Ann Murdoch Eaton Socon Clerk T R Horley Vicar February 22 Allan March James & Susan Townsend Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar February 22 Walter Joseph & Alice Smith Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar March 29 Charlotte Joseph & Sophie Jeffs Eaton Hawker Gabriel Stokes Curate of Eynesbury March 29 Eliza Jane Caleb & Susanna Stamford Eaton Labourer Gabriel Stokes March 29 Minnie Rose Caleb & Susanna Stamford Eaton Labourer Gabriel Stokes Page 129 When Baptised (year) Month Day Child's Christian Name Son of / Daughter of Parents Name Surname Abode Quality, Trade, or Profession By whom the Ceremony was performed 1885 March 29 Emma William & Lily Maddy Eaton Labourer Gabriel Stokes Curate of Eynesbury March 29 Kate John & Annie Quince Eaton Stone Sawyer Gabriel Stokes March 29 Alexander Thomas & Priscilla Agnes Hart Duloe Eaton Labourer Gabriel Stokes March 31 John William David & Mary Smith Eaton Labourer Philip Willis Privately April 14th Aleck John & Helen Adelaide Adams Eaton School Master Philip Willis April 17 Benjamin Sidney Joseph & Louisa Sarah Allen Eaton Grocer Philip Willis April 26 Amelia Gene & Charlotte Smith Eaton Ford Labourer Wm Maule April 26 Harry George William & Susan Nutcher Eaton Ford Paper Maker Wm Maule Page 130 When Baptised (year) Month Day Child's Christian Name Son of / Daughter of Parents Name Surname Abode Quality, Trade, or Profession By whom the Ceremony was performed 1885 April 26 Arthur William Charles & Emma Brownhill Eaton Ford Miller Wm Maule April 27 Edith Clara Charles Ebenezer & Clara Malden Eaton Socon Brewer Philip Willis Born 7 March May 31 Lucy Ann Samuel & Emma Tingey Pertenhall Farmer Philip Willis Born April 7th June 8 Florence Elizabeth John Richard & Jane Barnett Eaton Coach Painter Philip Willis June 28th Beatrice Thomas & Eliza Ann Townsend Eaton Labourer Basil M Jones Vicar of Hanfair DC June 28th Jack Charles & Eliza Cooper Eaton Labourer Basil M Jones Vicar of Hanfair DC Born Oct 19 1883 June 28th Kate William & Kate Freeman Eaton Labourer Basil M Jones Vicar of Hanfair DC Born May 6 1885 June 28th Henry Matthew John & Emma Marnes Eaton Labourer Basil M Jones Vicar of Hanfair DC Page 131 When Baptised (year) Month Day Child's Christian Name Son of / Daughter of Parents Name Surname Abode Quality, Trade, or Profession By whom the Ceremony was performed 1885 June 28th Marrington Mortlock Thomas William & Emma Jane Smith Eaton Ford Carpenter Basil M Jones Vicar of Hanfair DC June 28th Ernest Henry & Maria Markham Eaton Ford Labourer Basil M Jones Vicar of Hanfair DC Born Jun? 15 July 26 George Samuel & Mary Hartop Eaton Labourer Philip Willis July 26 Alice Ada Amos & Harriet Freshwater Eaton Labourer Philip Willis July 26 Joseph Joseph & Jane Berry Eaton Hurdle Maker Philip Willis July 26 Ada Joseph & Jane Berry Eaton Hurdle Maker Philip Willis July 26 Jane Joseph & Jane Berry Eaton Hurdle Maker Philip Willis Aug 30 Harry Edward William & Henrietta Elizabeth Reed Eynesbury Labourer Philip Willis Page 132 When Baptised (year) Month Day Child's Christian Name Son of / Daughter of Parents Name Surname Abode Quality, Trade, or Profession By whom the Ceremony was performed 1885 Sept 27 Thomas Henry John & Ann Duckham Eaton Socon Labourer Philip Willis Sept 27 Clara Jane John & Ann Duckham Eaton Socon Labourer Philip Willis Sept 27 Edith June William Henry & Martha Howard Eaton Socon Dealer Philip Willis Sept 27 Florence William Henry & Martha Howard Eaton Socon Dealer Philip Willis Sept 27 Sarah Louisa William & Elizabeth Babbington Eaton Socon Labourer Philip Willis Novr 29th John Henry & Elizabeth Newton Eaton Socon Labourer G Rideal-Lock Novr 29th Herbert William Henry & Mary Ann Watts Eaton Socon Labourer G Rideal-Lock December 27 Rose Charles & Elizabeth Ayres Eaton Socon Labourer Philip Willis

Dear Listers, Some may recall that I wrote a week or so back about the GADSBYs of Godmanchester. Well, I went to Huntingdon Library today and found a newspaper report of the funeral of 'old' John Topham GADSBY. As the report contains so many names, I thought I would post my transcript of it. Yours, etc. Geoffrey Woollard in Cambridgeshire. Newspaper Cutting (Huntingdonshire County Guardian) 4/1/1890: 'Godmanchester. Funeral of Mr Alderman GADSBY. - The remains of Mr Alderman GADSBY were interred in the burying ground attached to the Particular Baptist Chapel, on Saturday afternoon last, in the presence of a large assemblage of friends, and the general public. The cortege, headed by the Mayor (Mr T.B. FORDHAM), and the majority of the Corporation, the male Sunday school teachers accompanied by Mr F. DEIGHTON, who has been appointed Superintendent of the school in the room of the deceased, arrived at the Chapel about 3.30, where a funeral service was conducted by the Rev. T. OLDFIELD, minister of the denomination. The coffin, which was of polished oak, with brass plate and furniture, the lid of which bore three splendid white floral wreaths, was deposited in a vault, where the bodies of the first wife, and a son of deceased, had previously been buried. The brass plate of the coffin was as follows: "John Topham GADSBY, born 1st August, 1821, died 25th December, 1889." The relatives who attended the funeral were Mrs GADSBY, widow of deceased, Mr W. GADSBY, only surviving son, Mr WOLLEY, Mrs W. RAMPLEY, Mr PARRY, Mr J. BROWN and Mrs HEYWARD. The members of the Corporation present were the Mayor, Mr Alderman BEART, Councillors BAXTER, BIRD, COLE, HOWSON, LOOKER, MARGETTS, REEVE, and SMITH; Mr Gerald HUNNYBUN, Town Clerk, also accompanied. The other members were unable to be present either through illness or absence from home. Among the numerous friends and acquaintances who assembled to pay the last tribute of respect to the memory of the deceased we noticed Mr George THACKRAY (Mayor of Huntingdon), Mr P.E. TILLARD, Mr B. PRIOR, Mr W. BRAWN, senr., Mr W. BRAWN, junr., Mr J. BRAWN, Mr BROMHEAD, Mr NEWTON (Buckworth), Mr STURTON (Cambridge), Mr WILSON (Somersham), Mr T. SEWARD, Mr A. MARKHAM, Mr T. ASHTON, Mr E. CRAWLEY, Mr E. DEXTER, &c., present at the interment. The funeral arrangements were most satisfactorily carried out by Messrs. BIRD brothers, Messrs. BAXTER & Son, and Mr F. MARKHAM, who were the undertakers.'

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(Date) (Name/Item) (Amount) 1800 Brot Over 22/13/0 Apl 30 Pd W Shadbolt 9/ Jona Rowlett 5/ 0/14/0 Jno Markham 3/ W James 2/6 0/5/6 Jarvis's Child 1/ Jno Medley 5/ 0/6/0 T Dawson 1/ John Maddy 1/6 0/2/6 Eliz Baker 1/ S Sallaway 4/ 0/5/0 Nutty & Wid Briggs 0/10/0 Saml Braybrooks 0/4/0 G Townsend 5/ Jno Mason 3/ 0/8/0 G Walker 4/ T Cullup 1/ 0/5/0 Wid Allison 2/6 Booth's Child 2/ 0/4/6 Pd for Nursing Mrs Day 0/2/0 Grace Briley 1/6 Wid Langland 2/6 0/4/0 Wid Brown 1/6 Eliz Day 1/6 0/3/0 Pheby Darlow 5/ Wid Pack 3/ 0/8/0 Edith Barker 2/ Wid Lee 2/ 0/4/0 S Bolton 1/ Sam Bass 3/ 0/4/0 Wid Brown 4/ Sar Day 5/ 0/9/0 W Gardner 4/6 T Johnson 2/6 0/7/0 Rt Smith 4/6 F Hattwood 4/ 0/8/6 T Townsend 4/6 T Martin 2/ 0/6/6 W Barker 1/ Han Bastfield 3/ 0/4/0 T Walker 2/ W Day 4/ 0/6/0 Mary Oakley 1/6 Amy Emery 1/6 0/3/0 Mary Cranfield 1/6 Eliz Goodchild 1/ 0/2/6 Appleby 2/ W Foot 3/6 0/5/6 W Stokes 2/6 Quince 3/ 0/5/6 T Griffin 2/6 Valentine 5/ 0/7/6 Ann Simpson 7/ Endersby 1/6 0/8/6 Anne Muffin 7/ Endersby 1/6 0/8/6 Jno Smith 2/6 Newman 5/ 0/7/6 W Taylor 4/ Wid Ray 2/6 0/6/6 Wid Sumpter 3/ Gibby 3/ 0/6/0 S Sallaway Sen 2/ Wid hunter 1/6 0/3/6 T Rowlett 5/ Wid Gardner 5/ 0/10/0 Mary Fisher 2/6 Wid Barker 4/ 0/6/6 May 1st Noah Ellis 3/ Jno Quick 4/ 0/7/0 Bolton of Buckden 5/ Harper 5/ 0/10/0 Pd for two prs of shoes 0/6/10 Thody's Child 0/1/6 Card up 34/9/10

Page 122 When Baptised (year) Month Day Child's Christian Name Son of / Daughter of Parents Name Surname Abode Quality, Trade, or Profession By whom the Ceremony was performed 1884 February 24 Elizabeth John & Sophia Pratt Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar February 24 John John & Sophia Pratt Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar February 24 Francess John & Sophia Pratt Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar February 24 Mary Ann John & Sophia Pratt Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar February 28 Charles Robert William Stover Charles Thomas & Mary Eliza Jacobs Eaton Socon Sadler T R Horley Vicar March 20 Arthur Christopher & Deborah Cooper Eaton Socon Farmer T R Horley Vicar March 30 Thomas William & Susan Hannah Wright Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar March 30 Emma Charles & Elizabeth Ayers Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar Page 123 When Baptised (year) Month Day Child's Christian Name Son of / Daughter of Parents Name Surname Abode Quality, Trade, or Profession By whom the Ceremony was performed 1884 March 30 Frederick William William & Alice Thornton Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar March 30 Ellen Jane James & Mary Ann Beal Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar March 30 Florence Elizabeth Charles & Emma Brownhill Eaton Socon Miller T R Horley Vicar March 30 Rachel Alice Charles & Emma Brownhill Eaton Socon Miller T R Horley Vicar March 30 Mary Matilda Joseph & Susan Thornton Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar March 30 Fanny Eliza William & Susan Nutcher Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar March James Esther Searle Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar April 27 Arthur William & Annie Barnes Eaton Socon Labourer N Boyds Page 124 When Baptised (year) Month Day Child's Christian Name Son of / Daughter of Parents Name Surname Abode Quality, Trade, or Profession By whom the Ceremony was performed 1884 April 27 Ada William & Annie Peacock Eaton Socon Labourer N Boyds April 27 Charles Thomas Thomas & Fanny Peacock Eaton Socon Labourer N Boyds April 27 Sidney William Robert & Eliza Smith Eaton Socon Labourer N Boyds May 25 William Thomas William & Eliza Sargeant Eaton Socon Labourer P Willis May 25 George William William Lin & Elizabeth Babbington Eaton Socon Labourer P Willis May 25 Sarah Elizabeth Thomas George & Ester Abbott Eaton Socon Labourer P Willis May 25 Thomas John & Louisa Whitney Eaton Socon Labourer P Willis May 25 Richard Walter Frederick & Sarah Simons Eaton Ford Tailor P Willis Page 125 When Baptised (year) Month Day Child's Christian Name Son of / Daughter of Parents Name Surname Abode Quality, Trade, or Profession By whom the Ceremony was performed 1884 May 25 May Mary Frederick & Sarah Simons Eaton Ford Tailor P Willis May 25 William George Frederick & Sarah Simons Eaton Ford Tailor P Willis May 25 Julia Frederick & Sarah Simons Eaton Ford Tailor P Willis May 25 Charles Henry Fletcher Emily Simons Eaton Ford P Willis May 25 Herbert Charles Frederick & Sarah Simons Eaton Ford Tailor P Willis June 29 Ethel May Charles & Sophy Woodward Eaton Socon Foreman T R Horley Vicar July 27 Sarah Ann James & Susan Townsend Eaton Socon Sawyer T R Horley Vicar July 27 Walter James James & Susan Townsend Eaton Socon Sawyer T R Horley Vicar Page 126 When Baptised (year) Month Day Child's Christian Name Son of / Daughter of Parents Name Surname Abode Quality, Trade, or Profession By whom the Ceremony was performed 1884 July 27 John Thomas James & Susan Townsend Eaton Socon Sawyer T R Horley Vicar August 31 Elizabeth John & Sarah Cawbers Eaton Socon Bricklayer T R Horley Vicar August 31 Beatrice Anne Charles & Esther Newman Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar August 31 George Frederick Charles & Esther Newman Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar Sept 28 Alice Maud Te? Cooper Webster Samuel Yell & Mary Ok? Cooper Webster Eaton Socon Grocer T R Horley Vicar Oct 26 George Harris William Alexander Fraser & Emily Jane Hill Staploe Gardener P Willis Oct 26 Mary Joseph & Sophy Jeff Eaton Ford Labourer P Willis Oct 26 Samuel Joseph & Sophy Jeff Eaton Ford Labourer P Willis Page 127 When Baptised (year) Month Day Child's Christian Name Son of / Daughter of Parents Name Surname Abode Quality, Trade, or Profession By whom the Ceremony was performed 1884 Oct 26 John Horace John & Elizabeth Pope Eynesbury Parchment Maker P Willis Oct 26 Albert William William & Mary Anne Thody Eaton Labourer P Willis Oct 26 Fanny Joseph & Elizabeth Thody Eaton Gardener P Willis Oct 26 Sarah Isaac & Elizabeth Linger Eaton Ford Painter P Willis Nov 30 Elizabeth Maud George & Ada Anne Stocker Eaton Ford Carpenter T R Horley Vicar December 22 Gertrude Jackson Charles Thomas & Mary Eliza Jacob Eaton Socon Sadler T R Horley Vicar 1885 February 22 Mary Ann Charles & Elizabeth Luff Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar February 22 James Henry George & Esther Murfin Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley Vicar

Have just updated our Family Website to include Descendants of WILLIAM ROLLS. Mostly centred on Fenstanton. See: http://www.payman.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/other-english-counties/odyframe.htm Jim -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.10 - Release Date: 13/05/2005

Geoffrey, this may be of interest to you; The "Population of Godmanchester taken 28th of May 1821" gives the number of persons living there. Only the householder is named.The residents are listed by age groups, male & female. Post Street, Widow Gadsby, age 70-80. London Road, Jno Gadsby, males-- 1, 5-10. 1, 15-20 & 1, 40-50. females-- 2, 5-10. 1, 15-20 & 1, 40-50. Norman Custance, (whose 3xGrandfather was in Post Street age 80-90.) ----- Original Message ----- From: <GW5438@aol.com> To: <ENG-HUNTINGDON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 2:47 PM Subject: John Topham GADSBY (1821, 1853 and 1874), all three born at Godmanchester! > Dear Listers, > > I have just discovered a probable relationship with three gentlemen, all > by > the name of John Topham GADSBY, all born at Godmanchester (in 1821, 1853 > and > 1874). It appears that they were grandfather, son and grandson > respectively. > It also appears that JTG the elder married Martha Frances CLARK, of > Godmanchester, who was my GGG Aunt. Does anybody else connect with them, > please? > > Yours, etc. > > Geoffrey Woollard in (Old) Cambridgeshire. > > >

Dear Listers, I have just discovered a probable relationship with three gentlemen, all by the name of John Topham GADSBY, all born at Godmanchester (in 1821, 1853 and 1874). It appears that they were grandfather, son and grandson respectively. It also appears that JTG the elder married Martha Frances CLARK, of Godmanchester, who was my GGG Aunt. Does anybody else connect with them, please? Yours, etc. Geoffrey Woollard in (Old) Cambridgeshire.

Hi! I have a problem and am hoping to get some help for the next step. I have William Gifford (soldier) who married Sarah Collingwood in Somersham in 1823. My problem is that I have two different sources here in Australia that tell me two different sets of parents for this child. One tells me that he is the son of Joseph Gifford and Elizabeth Beale, b 1797 in Bluntisham, the other that he is the son of John Gifford and Mary Harden b 1803 in Somersham. I have been unable to read the 1841 census where he may still have been alive and he was dead in the 1851 census. Anyone have any suggestions? It probably is sitting under my nose but I can't see it at present. Regards Lyn

(Date) (Name/Item) (Amount) 1800 Disbursemts of Jno Morton, Jno Boston, & Jos Farr M? Overseers of the Poor, for the Parish of Eaton Socon in the County of Bedford Jno Norton's Dismts from the 23rd of April to the 14th of May 1800 Inclusive of the Town Apl 23d Pd W Peacock 12/6 Thody 4/ 0/16/6 Maddey 1/6 Martin 2/ 0/3/6 Muslin Rowlett's Wife 0/1/6 W Hip 1/ Rt Smith 4/6 0/5/6 Pd Jos Newman 0/2/0 Hanah Bastefield 2/6 T Jarvis 1/ 0/3/6 Eliz Baker 1/ Jno Markham 3/6 0/4/6 Disb of Mr Parker's from the 14 of April to the Sessions 4/13/6 W Foot 9/ Wid Barker 4/ 0/13/0 G Walker 5/ W James 2/ 0/7/0 Jarvis Child 0/1/0 Ann Sampson 3/6 Hull 1/ 0/4/6 W Valentine 2/ Johnson 2/6 0/4/6 T Townsend 3/6 Thornton 1/6 0/5/0 Britain Brace 2/ Stokes 2/6 0/4/6 T Robinson 7/ Wid Day 1/6 0/8/6 W Barker 1/6 J Newman 4/ 0/5/6 W Gardner 4/6 J Fulch 3/ 0/7/6 Geo Mayes 3/ Wid Peck 4/ 0/7/0 W Emery 1/ Rt Quince 3/ 0/4/0 Booth's Child 2/ T Newman 2/6 0/4/6 Wid Sargant 2/6 Darlow 5/ 0/7/6 Eliz Day 1/6 S bass 3/ 0/4/6 Wid Lee 2/ Mary Parker 1/6 0/3/6 M Brown 1/6 Grace Briley 1/6 0/3/0 (total) 11/5/6 (Date) (Name/Item) (Amount) Cont & Brot Forward 11/5/6 Pd Edith Barker 2/ S Bolton 1/ 0/3/0 Goodchilds 1/ Wid Oakley 1/6 0/2/6 Sar Neal 2/ Sar Day 5/ 0/7/0 W Day 4/ T Griffin 2/6 0/6/6 Lofty's Family 0/13/0 Ann Muffin 7/ Endersby 1/6 0/8/6 Mo Allison 2/6 Jno Medley 5/ 0/7/6 Wid Brown 4/ Geo Townsend 5/ 0/9/0 Jno Smith 2/6 T Dawson 1/ 0/3/6 W Shadbolt 5/ T Attwood 4/ 0/9/0 Wid Ray 2/6 Sumpter 3/ 0/5/6 Sallaway 2/ Wid Gobby 3/ 0/5/0 Mary Fisher 2/6 Wid Gardner 5/ 0/7/6 T Rowlett 5/ Noah Ellis 2/ 0/7/0 T Walker 2/ Witherow 4/ 0/6/0 Pd Christopher Cross 0/4/0 24 S Sallaway 3/6 Nutty Briggs 10/ 0/13/6 Jno Mason 3/ Appleby 2/6 0/5/6 S Braybrooks 3/ Jno Quick 4/ 0/7/0 Wid Smith 3/ W Taylor 4/ 0/7/0 Thody's Child 1/6 Markham 1/ 0/2/6 Do 26 Jno Oakley 1/ T Townsend 1/ 0/2/0 T Johnson 3/ T Cullup 1/ 0/4/0 Jona Rowlett 5/ T Walker 3/ 0/8/0 Jos Newman 3/ Quince 2/ 0/5/0 Shadbolt 4/ Teat 3/ 0/7/0 Pd Mary Shelton 0/4/0 A Journey to Bedford 0/5/0 Jno Markham 2/ W Hip 1/ 0/3/0 T Newman 5/ T Robinson 7/ 0/12/0 James Fulch 4/ W Hull 5/6 0/9/6 W Peacock 5/6 G Mayes 3/ 0/8/6 Jno Oakley 1/ S Neal 2/ 0/3/0 Ann Hull 6/ Witheron's Child 3/6 0/9/6 Wid Thody 4/ Christr Cross 3/ 0/7/0 Card forwd 22/13/0

Page 117 When Baptised (year) Month Day Child's Christian Name Son of / Daughter of Parents Name Surname Abode Quality, Trade, or Profession By whom the Ceremony was performed 1883 Jan 28 Lilly Elizabeth Thomas & Elizabeth Ann Townsend Eaton Socon Labourer E Horley Jan 28 Edward William & Mary Ann Barnes Eaton Socon Labourer E Horley Jan 28 Mary Ann Thomas & Elizabeth Ayres Eaton Socon Labourer E Horley Jan 28 Frank William & Georgina Jordan Eaton Socon Labourer E Horley Jan 28 Emma Eliza James & Suzan Townsend Eaton Socon Labourer E Horley Mar 25 Albert Samuel & Mary Hartrop Eaton Socon Labourer E Horley May 27 Frank Henry & Jane Huckle Eaton Socon Carter E Horley Page 118 When Baptised (year) Month Day Child's Christian Name Son of / Daughter of Parents Name Surname Abode Quality, Trade, or Profession By whom the Ceremony was performed 1883 Jun 24 Adah Elizabeth Arthur & Fanny Ball Eaton Socon Labourer E Horley Jun 24 Emma Robert & Lucy Ann Smith Eaton Socon Labourer E Horley Jun 24 Topsy Samuel & Sarah Howell Eaton Socon Labourer E Horley July 15 Mary Elizabeth John & Julia Adelaide Adams Eaton Socon Schoolmaster C Hemsley July 29 Emma George & Emma Bartram Eaton Socon Labourer E Horley July 29 John Robert John & Emma Marsier Eaton Socon Labourer E Horley July 29 Arthur William & Caroline Cousins Eaton Socon Coachman E Horley July 29 Frank Samuel & Alma Smith Eaton Socon Labourer E Horley Page 119 When Baptised (year) Month Day Child's Christian Name Son of / Daughter of Parents Name Surname Abode Quality, Trade, or Profession By whom the Ceremony was performed 1883 July 29 Fred Edward & Susan Fletcher Eaton Socon Labourer E Horley July 29 William Noah & Emma Norton Eaton Socon Labourer E Horley July 29 Earnest John William & Fanny Collet Eaton Socon Gold Reater? E Horley Aug 16 Robert Edwin Charles Ebenezer & Clara Malden Eaton Socon Brewer E Horley Aug 26 George Edward & Eliza Parren Eaton Socon Labourer E Horley Aug 26 John Thomas John & Sarah Jane Carr Eaton Socon Labourer E Horley Aug 26 Catherine Amelia Joseph & Emma Billington Eaton Socon Police man E Horley Aug 26 William Joseph Joseph & Emma Billington Eaton Socon Police man E Horley Page 120 When Baptised (year) Month Day Child's Christian Name Son of / Daughter of Parents Name Surname Abode Quality, Trade, or Profession By whom the Ceremony was performed 1883 Aug 26 Florence Eleanor Joseph & Emma Billington Eaton Socon Police man E Horley Sept 16 Emmaline John Huchinson & Jane Elizabeth Peppercorn Eaton Socon Gentleman E Horley Oct 28 Annie Henry & Elizabeth Newton Eaton Socon Labourer S M Chapman Oct 28 Arthur Okins Robert & Frances Barnett Eaton Socon Tailor S M Chapman Oct 28 Thomas William Thomas William & Emma Jane Smith Eaton Socon Labourer S M Chapman November 25 Sidney Charles & Ann Cole Eaton Socon Mason T R Horley December 3 Joseph Thomas & Anna Allen Eaton Socon Grocer T R Horley December 3 Alexander Louisa Sarah & Joseph Allen Eaton Socon Grocer T R Horley Page 121 When Baptised (year) Month Day Child's Christian Name Son of / Daughter of Parents Name Surname Abode Quality, Trade, or Profession By whom the Ceremony was performed 1883 December 3 Leopold Louisa Sarah & Joseph Allen Eaton Socon Grocer T R Horley December 3 John Thomas Louisa Sarah & Joseph Allen Eaton Socon Grocer T R Horley December 30 Lily James Emma Banks St Neots Builder T R Horley December 30 Matilda Matilda & Samson Hedley Eaton Socon Hawker T R Horley Dec 30 Alice Fanny & William Townsend Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley December 30 Frederick Fanny & William Townsend Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley December 30 Alfred Fanny & William Townsend Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley December 30 William Fanny & William Townsend Eaton Socon Labourer T R Horley

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Hello David, Your thoughts are very much appreciated, thank you very much. I don�t have access to the 1851, so no, I haven�t that information. I would appreciate you looking if you don�t mind please. Here's George from the 1861census RG 9/144 Folio: 54 Page: 15 Parish: St. Mary�s Islington Borough: Finsbury District: St. Stephen�s Mary�s Row 3 George Wiles age 54 ag. Labourer b. St. Neots Elizabeth wife age 52 b. Islington William 18 b. Islington = b. abt.1843 Stephen 15 b. Islington George 13 b. Islington Robert 11 b. Islington Sarah 7 b. Islington I can�t tell you how many hours I�ve spent going through 1861 film, looking for the family. I thought the arrival online might find them hiding. Catherine is not found at the address given on her marriage certificate in March 1862. I�ve asked the same question, if George was Catherine�s father, why is Reuben�s name on her marriage certificate? Also her first son�s name was James Reuben. As for nailing down Catherine�s 1841-44 birth. It isn�t for the lack of trying. I�d have had a birth certificate years ago, if it was straight forward. It�s been an ongoing task for several years. A cousin has been to London and gone through the birth civil registration books with no luck. I�ve recently come in contact with a new-to-me-cousin who has also been trying for longer than I have and in comparing notes we�ve both covered the same bases and re-invented the wheel at the same time. It wasn�t exactly reassuring to either of us. Yet again, parish baptism records for Islington are the stickler. Once again, thank you for the help. Judy David Cooper <cooperda@hotmail.com> wrote:Hi Judy I always take what I'm told by family members with a large pinch of salt! On the 1881 census on the LDS site there's a Reuben Wiles, aged 50, bricklayer born St Neots, living in London. He seems too young to have been Catherine's father, but he was living in Islington at one stage as he has a 23 year old daughter who was born there. Was he Catherine's brother perhaps? Have you found any of them in Islington in 1851? This is probably the key census as Catherine should still have been with her parents. What address was George at in 1861 - I have the 1851 London set, but it's not name indexed, so a street is always helpful? The George you found in 1861 appears to have died in Poplar, East London in 1888 as there is a death on FreeBMD in Sept quarter 1888 aged 81 (Reuben also lived in Poplar -per the 1881 census where he has a 9 year old daughter born there). I think George appears in 1881 as George Wilds aged 76, widow, born St Neots, living alone, so that doesn't help! Again though, this George seems too young to have married in 1822. But as I'm sure you know, to nail down her parents once and for all you need her birth/baptism details. As Lin suggested, you could request Huntingdon record office to search for George's baptism details, but I would try to narrow it down via the 1851 census first, as it is possible that George is a complete red herring. The question still remains though, as to why Catherine would have given her father's name as Reuben if he was George! Sorry if this is a bit disjointed! Regards David >From: Judy Mann >To: ENG-HUNTINGDON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Reuben or George WILES, St. Neots >Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 02:19:53 -0400 (EDT) > > >Thank you to each one of you who answered my St. Noets Parish Record >question. I understand everyone�s frustration, as it also adds fuel to an >already frustrating situation. > > > >Let me give the situation and maybe someone on the list will have some >light to shed on the subject. > > > >We have a marriage certificate for Catherine WILES and James Thomas GODFREY >married in Islington, London Mar 26, 1862. > > > >Bride�s father is listed as Reuben WILES, bricklayer > > > >The birth of Catherine Wiles is a mystery to us but won�t dwell on it as >it�s a London problem. > > > >Marriage cert. quotes �full age� > >The various census returns from 1861-1901 all state she was born in >Islington between 1841-44 with 1841 turning up most often. > >- no birth found in the Civil Registration birth index � the >search continues > >- thus we don�t know the mother�s name. > > > >James and Catherine�s first child was named James Rueben Godfrey. > > > >We�ve recently been sent a document confirming a marriage in St.Neots. >The sender, a family member is telling us the married couple documented are >the parents of our Catherine WILES. The problem is, the groom�s name is >George and not Reuben. > > > >George Wiles married to Susan Denniss by banns 16 June 1822. > >http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,50985.0.html > > > >We�ve been unable to locate Catherine Wiles on the 1861 census before her >marriage. > >We�ve been unable to locate a Reuben Wiles, on a census from 1861 forward. > >We realize he may have died before 1861. > >No mention of a death for Reuben on Free BMD. > > > >I have taken into consideration that George and Susannah �could� be >Catherine�s grandparents, and her father, Reuben possibly their first >child, and Catherine possibly his first child. > > > >On the 1861 there is a George Wiles born in St. Noets, b. 1807 living in >Islington, with a family however his wife�s name is Elizabeth. (second >wife?) > > > >With the fiche that are available, is there anything that will indicate >that George was George Reuben or Reuben George Wiles? The original >marriage or a baptism record about 1790�s � 1800 give or take? > > > >Any suggestions on this mystery are greatly appreciated. > > > >Thank you > >Judy --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

Hi Judy I always take what I'm told by family members with a large pinch of salt! On the 1881 census on the LDS site there's a Reuben Wiles, aged 50, bricklayer born St Neots, living in London. He seems too young to have been Catherine's father, but he was living in Islington at one stage as he has a 23 year old daughter who was born there. Was he Catherine's brother perhaps? Have you found any of them in Islington in 1851? This is probably the key census as Catherine should still have been with her parents. What address was George at in 1861 - I have the 1851 London set, but it's not name indexed, so a street is always helpful? The George you found in 1861 appears to have died in Poplar, East London in 1888 as there is a death on FreeBMD in Sept quarter 1888 aged 81 (Reuben also lived in Poplar -per the 1881 census where he has a 9 year old daughter born there). I think George appears in 1881 as George Wilds aged 76, widow, born St Neots, living alone, so that doesn't help! Again though, this George seems too young to have married in 1822. But as I'm sure you know, to nail down her parents once and for all you need her birth/baptism details. As Lin suggested, you could request Huntingdon record office to search for George's baptism details, but I would try to narrow it down via the 1851 census first, as it is possible that George is a complete red herring. The question still remains though, as to why Catherine would have given her father's name as Reuben if he was George! Sorry if this is a bit disjointed! Regards David >From: Judy Mann <familytree91@yahoo.ca> >To: ENG-HUNTINGDON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Reuben or George WILES, St. Neots >Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 02:19:53 -0400 (EDT) > > >Thank you to each one of you who answered my St. Noets Parish Record >question. I understand everyone’s frustration, as it also adds fuel to an >already frustrating situation. > > > >Let me give the situation and maybe someone on the list will have some >light to shed on the subject. > > > >We have a marriage certificate for Catherine WILES and James Thomas GODFREY >married in Islington, London Mar 26, 1862. > > > >Bride’s father is listed as Reuben WILES, bricklayer > > > >The birth of Catherine Wiles is a mystery to us but won’t dwell on it as >it’s a London problem. > > > >Marriage cert. quotes “full age” > >The various census returns from 1861-1901 all state she was born in >Islington between 1841-44 with 1841 turning up most often. > >- no birth found in the Civil Registration birth index – the >search continues > >- thus we don’t know the mother’s name. > > > >James and Catherine’s first child was named James Rueben Godfrey. > > > >We’ve recently been sent a document confirming a marriage in St.Neots. >The sender, a family member is telling us the married couple documented are >the parents of our Catherine WILES. The problem is, the groom’s name is >George and not Reuben. > > > >George Wiles married to Susan Denniss by banns 16 June 1822. > >http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,50985.0.html > > > >We’ve been unable to locate Catherine Wiles on the 1861 census before her >marriage. > >We’ve been unable to locate a Reuben Wiles, on a census from 1861 forward. > >We realize he may have died before 1861. > >No mention of a death for Reuben on Free BMD. > > > >I have taken into consideration that George and Susannah “could” be >Catherine’s grandparents, and her father, Reuben possibly their first >child, and Catherine possibly his first child. > > > >On the 1861 there is a George Wiles born in St. Noets, b. 1807 living in >Islington, with a family however his wife’s name is Elizabeth. (second >wife?) > > > >With the fiche that are available, is there anything that will indicate >that George was George Reuben or Reuben George Wiles? The original >marriage or a baptism record about 1790’s – 1800 give or take? > > > >Any suggestions on this mystery are greatly appreciated. > > > >Thank you > >Judy > > > > >--------------------------------- >Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals >