In a message dated 28/09/2005 19:40:03 GMT Standard Time, david.judd3@btinternet.com writes: I used to be married to one, but she thought the grass was greener the other side of the fence, she cost me an arm and a leg. David *********************************************************** Oh dear! Sorry to hear that. Apparently some of the HAMP families tended to be snobby and looked down their noses at the "working class" Hamp's.............wonder what they would have made of my family, working class through and through! Lois