This message gives a lot of sources new to me, thank you. What I believe the original message was about, however, is the Militia Lists published by Herts FHS. From what he says, I assume that George has photo copies of some pages, as if he had the complete booklet, he would have a brief explanation in the first page or so. In brief, they are the lists drawn by the parish constable of men eligible to serve on age grounds, with varying additional information from parish to parish. I think "Drawn" means that the person was listed to serve if necessary, and the same column sometimes gives the reason a man is excused. The occupation is also sometimes shown, in this connection "servant" does not necessarily mean a domestic servant, but a live-in employee, usually a guide as to whether the man is married. Number of children is also sometimes shown. Donald Massey ----- Original Message ----- From: "whitr" <corineous@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] MILITIA LISTS > Hello George, > > I do not know what you precisely mean by MILITIA LISTS, What I have come > across are Paylists, Adjutants Muster lists, and Harts Army lists of > Officers all held by the National Archives at Kew, near London. > http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/searchloading.asp?SearchInit=0&txtsearchterm=Hertfordshire+Militia&txtfirstdate=&txtlastdate=&txtrestriction=WO&hdnsorttype=Reference&image1.x=34&image1.y=11 > > Otherwise, I have found some records in Estate Records for local landed > families where the Colonial was responsible for the Militia, the latter > should be in the County Records Office or regrettably in private > collections where very often the owner hopes to make money out of the > acquisition. http://www.a2a.org.uk/ > > The paylists > where they exist contain name, rank, pay and off duty days. > > The Muster Lists > contain name, rank, duties/ hospitalisation/offences/et cetera. > > There are also personal records for Royal Hospital Chelsea [and if > applicable Royal Hospital Kilmainham for Irish Regiments]. The latter I > have included because for regulars the regiment is often moved around and > recruited locally. > They can be very detailed if they exist with personal descriptions, > service and reasons for granting pensions. For NCO's with long survive > they appear to be pensioned off as a policy not for illness. > > There are a lot of sources for these and using you search on your browser > will help. The Napoleonic period called the Great War has a lot of > records. > > The word Drawn depends on the period I am not sure as in Ireland it was a > duty to serve or have someone serve in a family. And to get out they had > to find substitutes at least in the period 1793-1816. > > If you put a message on the Military Message board on Ancestry.com or > Rootsweb you will get much more information. > > Ray > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fordham" <fordham@netconnect.com.au> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:59 AM > Subject: [HRT] MILITIA LISTS > > >> Back again after a period of 12 months to seek more assistance. >> I have lists called Militia Lists which give a date, given and surname, >> town and occupation. >> >> Could someone please give a brief explanation of what these lists really >> are. Are they just lists of men available for service or who served >> during the times shown? Were there age restrictions for service? >> >> A final column lists the word "DRAWN". An explanation please. >> George. >> >> MY INTERESTS: FORDHAM, ORSMAN, VALENTINE. >> >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> For any updates our info about the status of this list go to >> http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >> > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily > regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration > patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, > family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is > encouraged. > >