Hi Janet. How are you. The info I got here is that. Joseph Staines was born in 1764 and Died 22 Apr 1822 and his wife Sarah Player was born in 1778 at Littlebury, Essex and died in 1865, They got married 13 Oct 1800. Their Children are. Elizabeth B:26 Dec 1800 D:4 Mar 1801 at Kelshall Thomas b:1802 Kelshall. Joseph b: 1803 d:1864 in Kelshall Charles b: 1806 in Kelshall Mary b: 1809 in Kelshall James b: 1812 in Keshall Eliza b: 1815 in Kelshall George b: 1818 in Kelshall That is what I got from a cousin of mine. From Annette. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Booth" <janbooth@dsl.pipex.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Staines Family. > Hello Annette, > > According to the Militia Lists of Kelshall, there is a record of a Joseph > STANES listed as follows: > > 1783 Joseph STANES Kelshall Servant > 1784 Joseph STANES Kelshall Servant > 1785 Joseph STANES Kelshall Labourer > > The term Servant generally indicates not a live in Servant but someone who > is unmarried, so it would appear that this Joseph married somewhere between > 1784 and 1785. Looking on the IGI, there is a marriage on 24 June 1784 to a > Sarah Draper in Kelshall. Could Joseph snr have been married twice?? There > are no other STANES (or variations thereof) in the Militia Lists of > Kelshall. Do you have the 1851 census records for Joseph jnr and his mother > Sarah Player?? If not let me know and I will give you the details. Sarah > appears to have been born in Little Bury, Essex according to the 1851 and is > aged 73 and a widow. There are no PLAYERs listed in the Militita Lists of > Kelshall. > > Hope this helps in some small way. > > Janet. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "annette wilkinson" <ewo29845@bigpond.com> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 12:31 PM > Subject: [HRT] Staines Family. > > > > Hi Everyone. > > How are you. > > I am looking for the Staines Family that lived in Kelshall. > > There is a Joseph Staines that married a Sarah Player in 1800 in Kelshall. > > I know there children. > > But I don't know there parents. > > Please help. > >>From Annette. > > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily > > regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration > > patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, > > family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is > > encouraged. > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >

Hello again Annette, I don't know if you have the 1851 census information for any of your STAINES family, so I have listed what I have found below in case you haven't: PRO Ref: HO107/1707, folio 279, pages 14/15 Therfield (small village next to Kelshall) John FOSTER Head Unm 23 Farmer Watford Herts Charles STAINES Servant Unm 45 Agricultural Labourer Kelshall Herts PRO Ref: HO107/1707, folio 238, page 12 Schedule 47, Village, Kelshall Joseph STANES Head Mar 46 Ag Lab Herts Kelshall Anna do Wife Mar 43 Village Schoolmistress do do Amos do Son 11 do do William do Son 8 Scholar do do George do Son 6 do do do Sarah Ann do Daur 1 do do Schedule 48, Village, Kelshall Sarah STANES Head Widow 73 Domestic Duties Essex Little Bury George do Son Unm 33 Ag Lab Herts Kelshall PRO Ref: HO107/1707, folio 240, page 16 Schedule 65, Village, Kelshall James STANES Head Mar 39 Ag Lab Herts Kelshall Emma do Wife Mar 33 Domestic Duties do Therfield Mary Ann do Daur 9 do Kelshall Eliza Ann do Daur 7 do do Matilda do Daur 6 do do Celina do Daur 4 do do Agnes Sarah do Daur 2 do do On the IGI there is the marriage of a Mary STAINES to John KENSEY at Meldreth, Cambridge (not far from Kelshall) on 3 January 1835 and according to the 1851 census this Mary KENSEY was born in Kelshall abt 1809. Let me know if you would like the details. There is also the marriage of an Eliza STANES to a Thomas ATKINS in Kelshall on 22 November 1838 and here is the 1851 census record for her: PRO Ref: HO107/1707, folio 237, page 10 Schedule 42, Village, Kelshall Thomas ATKINS Head Mar 36 Ag Lab Herts Kelshall Eliza do Wife Mar 36 Domestic Duties do do Charles do Son 11 do do John do Son 9 Scholar do do Alfred do Son 6 do do do Albert do Son 4 do do do Sarah do Daur 2 do do I can't find any trace of Thomas on the 1851. Hope this helps in some way. Janet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "annette wilkinson" <ewo29845@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Staines Family. > Hi Janet. > How are you. > The info I got here is that. > Joseph Staines was born in 1764 and Died 22 Apr 1822 and his wife Sarah > Player was born in 1778 at Littlebury, Essex and died in 1865, They got > married 13 Oct 1800. > Their Children are. > Elizabeth B:26 Dec 1800 D:4 Mar 1801 at Kelshall > Thomas b:1802 Kelshall. > Joseph b: 1803 d:1864 in Kelshall > Charles b: 1806 in Kelshall > Mary b: 1809 in Kelshall > James b: 1812 in Keshall > Eliza b: 1815 in Kelshall > George b: 1818 in Kelshall > > That is what I got from a cousin of mine. > From Annette. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janet Booth" <janbooth@dsl.pipex.com> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:24 PM > Subject: Re: [HRT] Staines Family. > > >> Hello Annette, >> >> According to the Militia Lists of Kelshall, there is a record of a Joseph >> STANES listed as follows: >> >> 1783 Joseph STANES Kelshall Servant >> 1784 Joseph STANES Kelshall Servant >> 1785 Joseph STANES Kelshall Labourer >> >> The term Servant generally indicates not a live in Servant but someone >> who >> is unmarried, so it would appear that this Joseph married somewhere > between >> 1784 and 1785. Looking on the IGI, there is a marriage on 24 June 1784 >> to > a >> Sarah Draper in Kelshall. Could Joseph snr have been married twice?? > There >> are no other STANES (or variations thereof) in the Militia Lists of >> Kelshall. Do you have the 1851 census records for Joseph jnr and his > mother >> Sarah Player?? If not let me know and I will give you the details. >> Sarah >> appears to have been born in Little Bury, Essex according to the 1851 and > is >> aged 73 and a widow. There are no PLAYERs listed in the Militita Lists >> of >> Kelshall. >> >> Hope this helps in some small way. >> >> Janet. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "annette wilkinson" <ewo29845@bigpond.com> >> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 12:31 PM >> Subject: [HRT] Staines Family. >> >> >> > Hi Everyone. >> > How are you. >> > I am looking for the Staines Family that lived in Kelshall. >> > There is a Joseph Staines that married a Sarah Player in 1800 in > Kelshall. >> > I know there children. >> > But I don't know there parents. >> > Please help. >> >>From Annette. >> > >> > >> > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> > This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily >> > regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration >> > patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, > wills, >> > family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is >> > encouraged. >> > >> >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> For any updates our info about the status of this list go to >> http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >> > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the > message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other > readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. >

Hi Janet. How are you. Thank you, I will look into that. From Annette. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Booth" <janbooth@dsl.pipex.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Staines Family. > Hello again Annette, > > I don't know if you have the 1851 census information for any of your STAINES > family, so I have listed what I have found below in case you haven't: > > PRO Ref: HO107/1707, folio 279, pages 14/15 > Therfield (small village next to Kelshall) > > John FOSTER Head Unm 23 Farmer > Watford Herts > Charles STAINES Servant Unm 45 Agricultural > Labourer Kelshall Herts > > PRO Ref: HO107/1707, folio 238, page 12 > Schedule 47, Village, Kelshall > > Joseph STANES Head Mar 46 Ag Lab > Herts Kelshall > Anna do Wife Mar 43 Village > Schoolmistress do do > Amos do Son 11 > do do > William do Son 8 > Scholar do do > George do Son 6 > do do do > Sarah Ann do Daur 1 > do do > > Schedule 48, Village, Kelshall > > Sarah STANES Head Widow 73 Domestic Duties > Essex Little Bury > George do Son Unm 33 Ag Lab > Herts Kelshall > > PRO Ref: HO107/1707, folio 240, page 16 > Schedule 65, Village, Kelshall > > James STANES Head Mar 39 Ag Lab > Herts Kelshall > Emma do Wife Mar 33 Domestic > Duties do Therfield > Mary Ann do Daur 9 > do Kelshall > Eliza Ann do Daur 7 > do do > Matilda do Daur 6 > do do > Celina do Daur 4 > do do > Agnes Sarah do Daur 2 > do do > > On the IGI there is the marriage of a Mary STAINES to John KENSEY at > Meldreth, Cambridge (not far from Kelshall) on 3 January 1835 and according > to the 1851 census this Mary KENSEY was born in Kelshall abt 1809. Let me > know if you would like the details. There is also the marriage of an Eliza > STANES to a Thomas ATKINS in Kelshall on 22 November 1838 and here is the > 1851 census record for her: > > PRO Ref: HO107/1707, folio 237, page 10 > Schedule 42, Village, Kelshall > > Thomas ATKINS Head Mar 36 Ag Lab > Herts Kelshall > Eliza do Wife Mar 36 > Domestic Duties do do > Charles do Son 11 > do do > John do Son 9 > Scholar do do > Alfred do Son 6 > do do do > Albert do Son 4 > do do do > Sarah do Daur 2 > do do > > I can't find any trace of Thomas on the 1851. > > Hope this helps in some way. > > Janet. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "annette wilkinson" <ewo29845@bigpond.com> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 8:43 PM > Subject: Re: [HRT] Staines Family. > > > > Hi Janet. > > How are you. > > The info I got here is that. > > Joseph Staines was born in 1764 and Died 22 Apr 1822 and his wife Sarah > > Player was born in 1778 at Littlebury, Essex and died in 1865, They got > > married 13 Oct 1800. > > Their Children are. > > Elizabeth B:26 Dec 1800 D:4 Mar 1801 at Kelshall > > Thomas b:1802 Kelshall. > > Joseph b: 1803 d:1864 in Kelshall > > Charles b: 1806 in Kelshall > > Mary b: 1809 in Kelshall > > James b: 1812 in Keshall > > Eliza b: 1815 in Kelshall > > George b: 1818 in Kelshall > > > > That is what I got from a cousin of mine. > > From Annette. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janet Booth" <janbooth@dsl.pipex.com> > > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:24 PM > > Subject: Re: [HRT] Staines Family. > > > > > >> Hello Annette, > >> > >> According to the Militia Lists of Kelshall, there is a record of a Joseph > >> STANES listed as follows: > >> > >> 1783 Joseph STANES Kelshall Servant > >> 1784 Joseph STANES Kelshall Servant > >> 1785 Joseph STANES Kelshall Labourer > >> > >> The term Servant generally indicates not a live in Servant but someone > >> who > >> is unmarried, so it would appear that this Joseph married somewhere > > between > >> 1784 and 1785. Looking on the IGI, there is a marriage on 24 June 1784 > >> to > > a > >> Sarah Draper in Kelshall. Could Joseph snr have been married twice?? > > There > >> are no other STANES (or variations thereof) in the Militia Lists of > >> Kelshall. Do you have the 1851 census records for Joseph jnr and his > > mother > >> Sarah Player?? If not let me know and I will give you the details. > >> Sarah > >> appears to have been born in Little Bury, Essex according to the 1851 and > > is > >> aged 73 and a widow. There are no PLAYERs listed in the Militita Lists > >> of > >> Kelshall. > >> > >> Hope this helps in some small way. > >> > >> Janet. > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "annette wilkinson" <ewo29845@bigpond.com> > >> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 12:31 PM > >> Subject: [HRT] Staines Family. > >> > >> > >> > Hi Everyone. > >> > How are you. > >> > I am looking for the Staines Family that lived in Kelshall. > >> > There is a Joseph Staines that married a Sarah Player in 1800 in > > Kelshall. > >> > I know there children. > >> > But I don't know there parents. > >> > Please help. > >> >>From Annette. > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >> > This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily > >> > regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration > >> > patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, > > wills, > >> > family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is > >> > encouraged. > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >> For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > >> http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > >> > > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the > > message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other > > readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is encouraged. >