Thank you for this Gay you are wonderful, that helps me tremendously, looks like you have found my GGrandfather and his parents. Cutmore is not a very common name although there seem to be a lot of them in Hertfordshire:) I can now be satisfied that George was born in 1817 and his mother is Lydia. I am very grateful. Regards, Jill J Sydney Jill, >From vital records a child born in 1817 in Thundridge CUTMORE, George Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 1 Jun 1817 Recorded in: Thundridge, Hertfordshire, England Father: John Cutmore Mother: Lydia Source: FHL Film 991325 Dates: 1813 - 1838 This couple were together in 1814 CUTMORE, Hannah Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 9 Oct 1814 Recorded in: Thundridge, Hertfordshire, England Father: John Cutmore Mother: Lydia Source: FHL Film 991325 Dates: 1813 - 1838 There was a John Cutmore who married Ann Meggs 2 April 1831 Thundridge but Ann would not be your George's mother. I had a look at your George Cutmore on the 1861 census and living with him or next door - the very next entry on the 1861 census is William Cutmore age 54 - with a big NK - meaning birthplace not known. Looking for a William Cutmore born approx 1804 you find William Cutmore christened 3 apr 1803 Thundridge, Hertford England father John Cutmore mother Lydia batch number C072981