Hi List, Posting message to Hertfordshire and Sussex, there is a bit of county hopping but I am not subscribing to anymore lists which are relevant at some point. I have a Frederick Taylor born about 1857 Gloucestershire and whose parents I have as yet not found. Frederick married Amanda Terese Smith in 1884 and I think this was a second marriage, Amanda's father was Charles H Smith They were born and lived in London in 1881 but in Hoddesdon by 1891. Frederick and Amanda had the following children: Ada M born about 1882 - Clerkenwell - by his first marriage Frederica Emily Terese - born 1885 - Islington Gwendoline C M - born about 1887 - Islington Elsie Marguerite A - born about 1889 - Islington Irene Elizabeth Bertha - born 1891 - Hoddesdon Frederick - born about 1894 - Hoddesdon By 1901, the family were living in Eastbourne. I know what happened to Frederica but wondered if anyone recognises the other daughters who have quite distinctive names. Kind regards, Linda

Linda Sorry can't be of help . My TAYLORS are in Watford from 1880s. Great great grandfather MATTHEW TAYLOR was born in Lewes Sussex circa 1830. All the best with your search Paul Willson

Thanks Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "joan-victoria backhouse" <hundredacrewood@telus.net> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Surname TAYLOR > Linda > Sorry can't be of help . My TAYLORS are in Watford from 1880s. Great > great grandfather MATTHEW TAYLOR was born in Lewes Sussex circa 1830. > All the best with your search > Paul Willson > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is encouraged. > >

Hello: First some quick background, and then my questions: My ancestor John Hurndall was born Great Gaddesdon, Nittleton, Hertfordshire, on 22 October 1769. He married an Ann Barlow (or was it Appleby?) from Derbyshire around 1803. His parents were Mary/Ann (nee Lake) and William Hurndall. William is buried in Little Gaddeston, Berkhamsted, but I don't exactly know when he died, save that it was around 1812. His death had something to do with Pentonville in London, even though the prison there wasn't open until 1816. Supposedly, he was born in 1743, but I have no way of verifying that, nor do I know who his parents were. An ancestor of Mary or Ann or Mary Ann Lake-Hurndall was the anti-loyalist bishop John Lake, who was executed in 1688 during the reign of William & Mary, but I have no clue as to how they're connected. So here are my questions (and if you can answer any of them -- or help me know where I can look for answers -- God bless you, because I've been totally frustrated to this point): Was John Hurndall married in Derbyshire or Hertfordshire? How would I find out one way or the other? Who was William Hurndall (he could have been born where he was buried, Little Gaddeston, Berkhamsted)? Where was he born and when? Who were his parents? Why might he have died at Pentonville since there was no prison there until 1816? Who were Mary/Ann/Mary Ann Lake's parents? Where was she born and when (I have a circa 1746 in my records)? What is the connection between her and the executed Bishop John Lake? Were the Hurndall and Lake families either prevalent or prominent in this area at the time? If you don't know the answers to these questions, do you know where I could look or with whom I could talk? Regards, Brian Sacramento, California

Hi Brian, according to the IGI John Hurndall married Ann Barlow Appleby on 25 DEC 1803 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England the IGI also shows a birth of an Ann Hurndall -17 OCT 1813 Pentonville, London, England ,parents given as John Hurndall and Ann Barlow. hope this helps, best wishes, Sarah in Hemel Hempstead At 07:20 28/04/2005 -0700, you wrote: >Hello: > >First some quick background, and then my questions: > >My ancestor John Hurndall was born Great Gaddesdon, Nittleton, >Hertfordshire, on 22 October 1769. He married an Ann Barlow (or was it >Appleby?) from Derbyshire around 1803. His parents were Mary/Ann (nee >Lake) and William Hurndall. > >William is buried in Little Gaddeston, Berkhamsted, but I don't exactly >know when he died, save that it was around 1812. His death had something >to do with Pentonville in London, even though the prison there wasn't open >until 1816. Supposedly, he was born in 1743, but I have no way of >verifying that, nor do I know who his parents were. > >An ancestor of Mary or Ann or Mary Ann Lake-Hurndall was the anti-loyalist >bishop John Lake, who was executed in 1688 during the reign of William & >Mary, but I have no clue as to how they're connected. > >So here are my questions (and if you can answer any of them -- or help me >know where I can look for answers -- God bless you, because I've been >totally frustrated to this point): > >Was John Hurndall married in Derbyshire or Hertfordshire? How would I find >out one way or the other? > >Who was William Hurndall (he could have been born where he was buried, >Little Gaddeston, Berkhamsted)? > >Where was he born and when? > >Who were his parents? > >Why might he have died at Pentonville since there was no prison there >until 1816? > >Who were Mary/Ann/Mary Ann Lake's parents? > >Where was she born and when (I have a circa 1746 in my records)? > >What is the connection between her and the executed Bishop John Lake? > >Were the Hurndall and Lake families either prevalent or prominent in this >area at the time? > >If you don't know the answers to these questions, do you know where I >could look or with whom I could talk? > >Regards, > >Brian >Sacramento, California > >==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >For any updates our info about the status of this list go to >http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com

Hi Linda, Do you have Frederick in the 1881 census? I think I have found him and his first wife in St Luke, Finsbury: PRO Ref No: RG11/360, folio 15, page 22 Schedule 152, 46 Rahere St Frederick TAYLOR Head Mar 23 Raequet Stringer Gloucestershire Eliza do Wife Mar 20 Case Liner Middlesex St Luke As he gave his profession as a Racket Worker in the 1891 census, this looks pretty likely to be him. I also checked on the 1871 census for Frederick, hoping to find him with his parents, but the only Frederick TAYLOR I could find who was born in Tetbury (from 1891 census) was one who was in Tetbury Workhouse: PRO Ref No: RG10/2643, folio 106, page 31 Schedule 160 Workhouse Frederick TAYLOR Pauper 12 Scholar (Pauper) Gloucestershire Tetbury. Perhaps someone else on the list who has the 1861 census could find Frederick and his parents for you in the 1861 census of Tetbury. Good luck. Janet Booth. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Staunton" <linda@staunton3282.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 4:29 PM Subject: [HRT] Surname TAYLOR > Hi List, > > Posting message to Hertfordshire and Sussex, there is a bit of county > hopping but I am not subscribing to anymore lists which are relevant at > some point. > > I have a Frederick Taylor born about 1857 Gloucestershire and whose > parents I have as yet not found. Frederick married Amanda Terese Smith in > 1884 and I think this was a second marriage, Amanda's father was Charles H > Smith They were born and lived in London in 1881 but in Hoddesdon by 1891. > > Frederick and Amanda had the following children: > > Ada M born about 1882 - Clerkenwell - by his first marriage > Frederica Emily Terese - born 1885 - Islington > Gwendoline C M - born about 1887 - Islington > Elsie Marguerite A - born about 1889 - Islington > Irene Elizabeth Bertha - born 1891 - Hoddesdon > Frederick - born about 1894 - Hoddesdon > > By 1901, the family were living in Eastbourne. I know what happened to > Frederica but wondered if anyone recognises the other daughters who have > quite distinctive names. > > Kind regards, > > Linda > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To POST a message to this list use the address: > > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. > receiving > the messages individually or want them individually) or > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. > receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe > or unsubscribe. >

Thanks Janet, I have all the census as I've been looking for a couple of years for Frederica and just found her birth by fluke on BDM and then had a starting point. Kind regards, Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Booth" <janbooth@dsl.pipex.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] Surname TAYLOR > Hi Linda, > > Do you have Frederick in the 1881 census? I think I have found him and his > first wife in St Luke, Finsbury: > > PRO Ref No: RG11/360, folio 15, page 22 > Schedule 152, 46 Rahere St > > Frederick TAYLOR Head Mar 23 Raequet Stringer > Gloucestershire > Eliza do Wife Mar 20 Case Liner > Middlesex St Luke > > As he gave his profession as a Racket Worker in the 1891 census, this looks > pretty likely to be him. I also checked on the 1871 census for Frederick, > hoping to find him with his parents, but the only Frederick TAYLOR I could > find who was born in Tetbury (from 1891 census) was one who was in Tetbury > Workhouse: > > PRO Ref No: RG10/2643, folio 106, page 31 > Schedule 160 Workhouse > > Frederick TAYLOR Pauper 12 Scholar (Pauper) > Gloucestershire Tetbury. > > Perhaps someone else on the list who has the 1861 census could find > Frederick and his parents for you in the 1861 census of Tetbury. > > Good luck. > > Janet Booth. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Staunton" <linda@staunton3282.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 4:29 PM > Subject: [HRT] Surname TAYLOR > > > > Hi List, > > > > Posting message to Hertfordshire and Sussex, there is a bit of county > > hopping but I am not subscribing to anymore lists which are relevant at > > some point. > > > > I have a Frederick Taylor born about 1857 Gloucestershire and whose > > parents I have as yet not found. Frederick married Amanda Terese Smith in > > 1884 and I think this was a second marriage, Amanda's father was Charles H > > Smith They were born and lived in London in 1881 but in Hoddesdon by 1891. > > > > Frederick and Amanda had the following children: > > > > Ada M born about 1882 - Clerkenwell - by his first marriage > > Frederica Emily Terese - born 1885 - Islington > > Gwendoline C M - born about 1887 - Islington > > Elsie Marguerite A - born about 1889 - Islington > > Irene Elizabeth Bertha - born 1891 - Hoddesdon > > Frederick - born about 1894 - Hoddesdon > > > > By 1901, the family were living in Eastbourne. I know what happened to > > Frederica but wondered if anyone recognises the other daughters who have > > quite distinctive names. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Linda > > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > To POST a message to this list use the address: > > > > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > > > > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > > > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. > > receiving > > the messages individually or want them individually) or > > > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. > > receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > > > > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe > > or unsubscribe. > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. > >