Hi Just to add a light note to this , I wanted my 4x gr grandparents wedding cert from 1843, I knew the date of the wedding , the church and the couples name , but I needed the name of the grooms father so that's why I wanted the cert to find out so I went to Dudley Registrar Office I filled in the forms stated I was there what ever gr granddaughter and paid my money over , Then I asked if they could tell me the name of the grooms father , quote *we cant give you that info its data protected you have to wait for it to be sent to you by post *, I did say that it was from nearly 160 years ago but they would not have it and it took nearly a fortnight to arrive from just three miles away and several phone calls and they claimed they had posted it the same day But I have found that in most cases most of the registrars will tell you the info after you have paid Cheers Cassy Assistant Admin Black Country Potteries, and Wolverhampton Lists ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Shipman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] HRT Heir Hunters > Hi > Interesting subject! From afar I have vastly differing experiences! > ENGLAND > I am NOT allowed details of a patient at an asylum who died in 1910 > although I have the Death Cert and know the cause of death! I applied in > May 2008 because I knew it was 100 years since the Admisson! Privacy Law > was cited. > I AM allowed information on house ownership, burial details etc for > someone who died in 1981. I have Patient Records and Death Certs for > the 1940s. > AUSTRALIA > Burials and Cemetery info is easily obtainable. Wills are available up > to the 1990s (my latest). I have had no problem getting certs. The info > is available on CD up to about 1920. > > I think it very much depends on the organisation from whom you are > seeking information! The NZ Genealogical Society has published a CD > where I am listed as deceased because my name appears on the gravestones > of my father and brother! > THAT has to be a lesson for all of us! > > However I do think it is bad manners to publish details of living > persons on Web sites but so many Colonials do it in the hope of finding > the family "back home"! Many sites have a Personal Message capability > which I prefer to use. > Cheers > Marlene > New Zealand > > Celia Renshaw wrote: >> In the UK, it is still [for the time being] possible to get BMD >> certificates >> for anyone, at least up to & incl. 2005, maybe right up to the present, >> I'm >> not an expert. Even just using the GRO indexes in the 20th/21st >> centuries >> can yield good results. After mid-1912ish, the birth indexes include >> mother's maiden name which is usually a big help. And the death indexes >> from some date before 1984 [when things went computerised], include the >> deceased's date of birth too [though its accuracy depends on how well the >> informant knew the deceased!]. I understand there's an official project >> underway to include mother's maiden name and possibly other additional >> info >> in the online GRO indexes pre-1912, but that is running very much later >> than >> planned and not yet available - I'm sure there are people here know more >> about that than me. >> >> I know our system differs from other countries, Australia as an example, >> where there's a 100 year 'gag rule' on BMD certs unless you can prove >> it's >> for yourself or immediate family -am I right? I had an Ozzie rellie a >> few >> years ago threw a big wobbly and stopped speaking to me when I passed on >> some 'living people' details to other trusted, close-researchers because >> she >> thought they would publish them on a website which she said, in >> Australia, >> was illegal? But I'm not sure how that works when the web is global - in >> the UK I'm pretty sure it's not illegal, just bad form in some people's >> opinion... at least that's true so far... people keep hinting things like >> this could change. >> >> Despite having supposedly open access to our certs and the info they >> hold, >> it is still more difficult to trace living people than the dead ones in >> the >> UK, but trackers like those featured in the programme will, I imagine, >> have >> subs to services like 992.com [or is it 922?] which hold various >> databases >> such as electoral registers, phone directories etc - on that website, you >> can do initial searches for free, but there's a [modest] sub payable to >> view >> details. I've no doubt there are companies producing much more of this >> kind >> of info for a fairly hefty charge, one reason why the heir-hunters take a >> percentage cut. Though whether the recent changes to Data Protection and >> Freedom of Info have affected things I dunno. >> >> As I write this, I realise how fuzzy I am about the details on all this. >> No >> doubt others can advise me! >> >> Cheers, >> Celia Renshaw >> in Chesterfield UK >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> [email protected] >> Sent: 18 July 2008 10:20 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [HRT] HRT Heir Hunters >> >> I also have been watching 'Heir Hunters' and wonder, 'how do they trace >> the >> children/grandchildren born after 1901? How do they find their names and >> where they live? >> >> Sheila >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.134 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1549 - Release Date: > 12/07/2008 16:31 > > >