Hi Rosemary On Harriet's wedding cert he was down has a labour and it did not say anything at all about him beening dead but that depends on what they tell the vicar but has I cant find him on other census I think you are right , I also looked for the son George on the 1881 census but I cant find him so I expect he is dead also But I also looked for this Thomas Brindle on the 1841 census when I had ancestry and could not find him either but Ancestry was very bad for Herts. on the 1841 Harriet Môn was Sarah Warner born 1822 , she married a George Draper in 1847 and they had several kids Sarah died in 1889 a few years before Harriet in 1896 I did ring that pub Harriet worked at I wanted to check if it was the same one and it was still there which I was pleased about Just wished my husband would take me there for a visit Thank you for all your help Cassy Assistant Admin Black Country Potteries, and Wolverhampton Lists ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemary Williams" <[email protected]> To: "cassy" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Thomas Brindle > Cassy, > > This family seems to have suffered badly from mistranscription. Did it > say what the father's occupation was on Harriet's marriage certificate? > Did it indicate that he was still alive? Do you know which of the > Warner daughters was her mother? > > I don't think you can assume that Thomas Brindell married Mary about > 1846. They could have been married well before this, after George's > birth or not at all. > > FreeBMD has a death of a Thomas Brindell in 1855. You would need to > order the certificate to find out if it is the right one. > > There is then a marriage of a Mary Brindell in 1864 but this time it's > not a case of mis-transcription the entry is too difficult to read to > confirm a place and other details. > > This might explain, though, why there are no other census entries for > Thomas. > > In the mean time have you got this one of Harriet? > > In 1861 she's a servant at the Green Dragon in the Colney area of St. > Albans - I think thepub is still there > > Harriet S Warner > Age: 17 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 > Relation: Servant > Gender: Female > Where born: St Peter, Hertfordshire, England > > Civil Parish: St Alban St Peter > Ecclesiastical parish: Colney > County/Island: Hertfordshire > Country: England > > Good hunting, > > Ro > > --- cassy <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi All >> Can anyone help with this please , has I am tring to have another go >> at it >> My gr gr grandmother Harriet Warner was brought up by her >> grandparents >> Edward and Mary Warner , has her parents never married but on >> Harriets >> wedding cert >> to Thomas Franklin in 1864 she put down her father was Thomas Brindle >> Have never been able to find out anything at all about this man >> Below is a person who might be my Thomas Brindle but not sure , but >> I >> could never find >> him on another census >> Can anyone help please >> Cassy >> Assistant Admin Black Country >> Potteries, and Wolverhampton Lists >> >> >> I . On the Index it has it listed as Brandell but when I looked at >> the >> census it is definatle Brindell . >> Also he has a son living with him who was born in 1847 so this >> suggest he >> did not marry till about 1846 >> >> 1851 Civil parish: Harpenden County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: >> England >> Source information: HO107/1713 Registration district: St Albans >> Sub-registration district: Harpenden ED, institution, or vessel: 2a >> Folio: >> 77 Page: 19 >> >> Thomas Brindell / HD/ 29/ Straw Hat Bleacher / Beds Luton >> Mary / Wife / Plaiter / Herts Harpendon >> George / Son / 4/ Herts Harpendon >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.134 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1536 - Release Date: 05/07/2008 > 10:15 > > >