A lister has kindly been helping me with some queries on the Garnett family of Kimpton and he found this reference: Herts Quarterly Sessions Jan 8 1704-Order dismissing the Appeal of Whethamsted against a Warrent removing Joseph Garnett and his Wife and Child from Kempton Can anybody explain what this means please. Thanks Diana

From: [email protected] > A lister has kindly been helping me with some queries on the Garnett > family of Kimpton and he found this reference: > > Herts Quarterly Sessions > Jan 8 1704-Order dismissing the Appeal of Whethamsted against a > Warrent removing Joseph Garnett and his Wife and Child from > > Kempton > > Can anybody explain what this means please.> This was a case of a family who had been ordered to be removed back to the parish where they had a settlement under the Poor Laws. Joseph Garnett and his wife and child were living at Kempton but fell on hard times and applied for help from the Parish Officers. When this happened, an investigation was held into where the family's legal parish of Settlement was, i.e. from which they had a Settlement Certificate. If it was found to be somewhere else, then the magistrates could order them to be sent back to that parish, in this case Wheathampstead. The parish poor law officers of Wheathampsted obviously didn't want them to become a burden on them and appealed to the Quarter Sessions against the decision. However, the appeal was dismissed and presumably the Garnett family remained in Wheathampstead. Our ancestors lived in some very hard and cruel times! I trust this is now clear? -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

From: "Roy Stockdill" <[email protected]> > From: [email protected] > > > A lister has kindly been helping me with some queries on the Garnett > > family of Kimpton and he found this reference: > > > > Herts Quarterly Sessions > > Jan 8 1704-Order dismissing the Appeal of Whethamsted against a > > Warrent removing Joseph Garnett and his Wife and Child from > > > Kempton > > > > Can anybody explain what this means please.> > > This was a case of a family who had been ordered to be removed back to > the parish where they had a settlement under the Poor Laws. > > Joseph Garnett and his wife and child were living at Kempton but fell > on hard times and applied for help from the Parish Officers. When this > happened, an investigation was held into where the family's legal > parish of Settlement was, i.e. from which they had a Settlement > Certificate. If it was found to be somewhere else, then the > magistrates could order them to be sent back to that parish, in this > case Wheathampstead. > > The parish poor law officers of Wheathampsted obviously didn't want > them to become a burden on them and appealed to the Quarter Sessions > against the decision. However, the appeal was dismissed and presumably > the Garnett family remained in Wheathampstead. > > Our ancestors lived in some very hard and cruel times!> I should have added that if your contact is anywhere near the Hertfordshire Record Office, there may still be an account of the Poor Law Examination by the magistrates. Where these survive, they can often supply valuable information about a family. There would undoubtedly have been an examination for the case to get as far as the Quarter Sessions. Whether it survives is another matter. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi, It means it was thrown out of court ,it meant Joseph Garnet was not turned out ,we will say could stay in his cottage And Whethamsted lost ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Removal of a family >A lister has kindly been helping me with some queries on the Garnett family > of Kimpton and he found this reference: > > Herts Quarterly Sessions > Jan 8 1704-Order dismissing the Appeal of Whethamsted against a Warrent > removing Joseph Garnett and his Wife and Child from Kempton > > Can anybody explain what this means please. > > Thanks > > Diana > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Diana, The actual date dismissing the appeal was 8 January 1704/5 therefore making the actual year 1705 as we would know it nowadays. I have looked on my Herts County Records Sessions CD for any other mention of Joseph round that time but with no success I'm afraid. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Removal of a family >A lister has kindly been helping me with some queries on the Garnett family > of Kimpton and he found this reference: > > Herts Quarterly Sessions > Jan 8 1704-Order dismissing the Appeal of Whethamsted against a Warrent > removing Joseph Garnett and his Wife and Child from Kempton > > Can anybody explain what this means please. > > Thanks > > Diana > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1392 - Release Date: > 22/04/2008 15:51 > >