From: [email protected] > Charles Cutler is detailed on the censuses as being born in Edgware, > Middlesex in 1816. Possibly a brother called William is listed as > being born also in Edgware (and sometimes Tring) in 1824. Can > anyone find records to verify this at all? If anyone has BMDs for this > area can they please look up any other possible > brothers/sisters/parents? I would be most grateful. > > They both ended up in Tring, Hertfordshire with all the other Cutlers > and I am wondering if Edgware actually came under the > Berkhampstead umbrella in those days? Or maybe the boys were > orphaned and sent to Tring to be brought up by family?> Forgive me for saying this but I have the impression that you are flailing around in the dark because you are unfamiliar with British geography and records. Firstly, there is no such thing as BMD records for the period 1816-1824. Civil registration of births, marriages and deaths did not start until 1st July 1837. Before that date what you get are baptisms, marriages and burials in parish registers. Sometimes birth and death dates were given but this varied considerably from parish to parish. Second, there is no possibility that Edgware and Tring were ever connected in any way. Edgware is in Middlesex, and now in north London, while Tring is some 25 miles away to the north-west in rural Hertfordshire. The two were totally separate parishes, not even adjacent to one another, nor have they ever been in the same registration district. The Tring registers are at the Hertford RO while the Edgware registers are at the London Metropolitan Archives. As I suggested in an earlier message (which you did not acknowledge) you would be best advised to hire a researcher to go and search them both. If I may ask another question, what makes you so convinced the Cutlers of Edgware and those of Tring are the same family? It is not exactly an uncommon surname. You do not say whether they were actually in the same household in the censuses. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE