Brian, Thanks - those are quite different variations from the ones I have tried so I'll keep my fingers crossed that one of them comes up when I search next. Chris ---- Original Message ----- From: "Pez" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 2:30 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] VIPERS; FAULKNER > Hi Chris > > You will also find spellings PHYPERS, PHYPURS and PHYPOURS (there's some > in my wife's family, her family all being from north-east Hertfordshire) > so it may be worth searching for those too. It's not a particularly > common name by any accounts. > > Just out of interest, there was a lad called VIPERS in my form at school > (Hoddesdon - late 1970s) and as far as I am aware there are still some > PHYPERS living just up the road from me, in Hertford Heath. > > Regards > > Brian > Hertford, Herts, UK > > > On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 23:38 +0000, Chris Gadsby wrote: >> I have just subscribed to this list in the hope that someone can throw >> light on a long-standing problem I have had. >> >> I have a birth certificate for Harriet FAULKNER (b. 1874 Marylebone) >> which shows her parents to have been William FAULKNER (deceased) and >> Charlotte FAULKNER formerly VIPERS. I am interested in Harriet's brother >> William FAULKNER junior, b. abt 1862 in Chelsea according to census >> entries. I am presuming his mother was also Charlotte VIPERS but can >> find no proof. >> >> The 1881 census shows Charlotte FAULKNER as a widow living at 8 Little >> Church Street Marylebone with her children as follows: >> >> 1881 census >> Street address: 8 Little Church St >> Civil Parish: St Marylebone >> Registration district: Marylebone >> Sub-registration district: Christchurch >> >> Charlotte Faulkner Head Wid 45 plain needleworker b. Hertfordshire >> (abt 1836) >> William Faulkner son U 19 Shunter on railway b. Chelsea, >> Middlesex (abt 1862) >> Frederick Faulkner son U 16 Van Guard G W R b. Marylebone (abt >> 1865) >> Annie Faulkner dau U 12 scholar b. Marylebone (abt 1865) >> Harriet Faulkner dau U 7 scholar b. Marylebone (abt 1865) >> >> Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 154; Folio: 27; Page: 45; Line: ; >> GSU roll: 1341034. >> >> I have been unable to follow this family back before this and I wonder if >> anyone can tell me if a record of the marriage between Charlotte VIPERS >> and William FAULKNER is recorded in Hertfordshire. I suspect it is more >> likely to be in the Middlesex area but have no idea where to start >> searching. Nothing on Free BMD looks right. >> >> I have discovered that the VIPERS surname is almost completely restricted >> to the Hertford area in 1881 which is interesting and seems to fit the >> census information. >> >> An suggestions gratefully received. >> >> Chris